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Romancing SaGa 2: Revenge of the Seven |OT| Seven SaGa 2: Remake of Romancing Revenge

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Romancing SaGa 2: Revenge of the Seven is a complete 3D remake of the original Romancing SaGa 2, first released in 1993 in Japan.

Discover or re-discover the epic story of the wars fought between the imperial line of Varennes and the Seven Heroes of ancient myth, as well as all the unique and ground-breaking mechanics from the SaGa franchise, such as “Glimmers” and “Formations”.

This remake re-works the battle and character growth systems and adds in numerous new features, such as difficulty selection, Japanese and English voice acting, both original and rearranged music and much more! Last but not least, the expansive world of Romancing SaGa 2 and its various characters, originally depicted using 2D pixel graphics, has been fully updated to gorgeous 3D.

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Game Information Game Title: Romancing SaGa 2: Revenge of the Seven Platforms: PlayStation 4 (Oct 24, 2024) PlayStation 5 (Oct 24, 2024) Nintendo Switch (Oct 24, 2024) PC (Oct 24, 2024) Trailer: Romancing SaGa 2: Revenge of the Seven | Overview Launch Trailer Romancing SaGa 2: Revenge of...
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jshackles

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My Switch copy is out for delivery. Excited to dig in!
 
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TintoConCasera

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Is this a good starting point to get into the Saga games? My other alternatives are Saga 3, Frontier and Frontier 2 which looks amazing btw.
 
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TintoConCasera said:
Is this a good starting point to get into the Saga games? My other alternatives are Saga 3, Frontier and Frontier 2 which looks amazing btw.
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This game (at least from the demo) was incredibly accessible. This series is similar to Final Fantasy, in that the games aren't connected at all story-wise and just share some elements. This game also seems far less convoluted than the more recent entries (Scarlet Grace and Emerald Beyond), and the game seems to give you good tutorials to let you know what's going on, unlike the original SNES game.

There's a demo on all platforms, and the progress from the demo carries over to the full game, if you wanna check it out yourself before committing.
 
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TintoConCasera said:
Is this a good starting point to get into the Saga games? My other alternatives are Saga 3, Frontier and Frontier 2 which looks amazing btw.
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They’re all totally independent (like FF series) so you can start wherever. Saga Frontier 1 is probably my favorite but it seems like Romancing Saga 2 is the one Japanese gamers are most nostalgic for.

And BTW when you say Saga 3, do you mean Romancing Saga 3? Those are 2 different games (this series has the most confusing names ever).

Saga 1-3 were released on Gameboy (released in the US as Final Fantasy Legend 1-3)

Romancing Saga 1-3 were on SNES. RS1 was remade as Minstrel Song for PS2

Saga Frontier 1&2 were on PlayStation
 
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jshackles said:
This game (at least from the demo) was incredibly accessible. This series is similar to Final Fantasy, in that the games aren't connected at all story-wise and just share some elements. This game also seems far less convoluted than the more recent entries (Scarlet Grace and Emerald Beyond), and the game seems to give you good tutorials to let you know what's going on, unlike the original SNES game.

There's a demo on all platforms, and the progress from the demo carries over to the full game, if you wanna check it out yourself before committing.
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Very nice to know that the game is accessible. My first game in this series was Romancing Saga 3 and that one was a bit hard to get into, at least for me back when I tried it. I'll give the demo a go, thanks!

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They’re all totally independent (like FF series) so you can start wherever. Saga Frontier 1 is probably my favorite but it seems like Romancing Saga 2 is the one Japanese gamers are most nostalgic for.

And BTW when you say Saga 3, do you mean Romancing Saga 3? Those are 2 different games (this series has the most confusing names ever).

Saga 1-3 were released on Gameboy (released in the US as Final Fantasy Legend 1-3)

Romancing Saga 1-3 were on SNES. RS1 was remade as Minstrel Song for PS2

Saga Frontier 1&2 were on PlayStation
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Yeah I know. I was referring more to the accessibility of the game, since I've always heard those are very complicated games.

I was referring to the remake of Romancing Saga 3 that's available on Steam. Didn't know Saga 3 was a different game, man that's confusing. :goog_relieved:
 
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How did you spell SaGa two different ways in the thread title 🤔

Anyway, I plan to play this at some point. I still hope for a SaGa Frontier 3 game someday.
 
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TintoConCasera said:
Very nice to know that the game is accessible. My first game in this series was Romancing Saga 3 and that one was a bit hard to get into, at least for me back when I tried it. I'll give the demo a go, thanks!


Yeah I know. I was referring more to the accessibility of the game, since I've always heard those are very complicated games.

I was referring to the remake of Romancing Saga 3 that's available on Steam. Didn't know Saga 3 was a different game, man that's confusing. :goog_relieved:
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Ahh yeah for sure this RS2 remake seems to be a lot more accessible based on the demo.

E.g. they give you an indication of which skills are most likely to spark new skills when using them. You can see your magic/weapon proficiency experience after battle (either this stuff was hidden in the original, or it was random, not sure). And it gives you quest markers instead of making you figure out where to go (often by trial and error), for better or worse.
 
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Just started the demo and I'm enjoying it. The game immediately seems more engaging than most other RPGs I've played recently. Not sure why, could be that old school charm.

PC port seems pretty good. Required some tweaks to get rid of motion blur, sharpen TAA and fix the VERT- scaling on ultrawide. Heard it runs really well on Steam Deck, which I have yet to try.

I usually write RPGs with battle formations/grids off, but I'm going to give this entire demo a shot. Have a feeling I'll buy this game really soon, if not eventually.
 
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Game is so good, played like 4 hours today. I'm a huge fan of the original, so I'm a bit biased, but I'm loving this.

Tons of freedom, multiple paths to do the same mission. Great progression system that reminds me of Final Fantasy II.

Also, straight up harem simulator with hot anime chicks.
 
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DonkeyPunchJr said:
Make sure you get all those done in time for DQ3 remake in a few weeks.
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Word. I'm like 70% through Metaphor, Ys Nordics hits tomorrow, Trails through Daybreak got put on pause after a week, and I still have Trials of Mana staring at me through its shrink wrap.
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Don't forget to squeeze in Mario & Luigi: Brothership, made by Acquire!
 
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I'm about halfway through. Really enjoying this, haven't played the original in quite a long time, so this feels a lot more fresh to me. I skipped the re-release. However, this definitely feels like an old school JRPG - lots of battles (though they can be seen now and potentially avoided), lots of fetch-style quests, and a complicated leveling system.

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jshackles said:
I'm about halfway through. Really enjoying this, haven't played the original in quite a long time, so this feels a lot more fresh to me. I skipped the re-release. However, this definitely feels like an old school JRPG - lots of battles (though they can be seen now and potentially avoided), lots of fetch-style quests, and a complicated leveling system.

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It honestly feels refreshing after Metaphor, having a story that leaves a lot to your imagination. You mean I don’t have to listen to each character give a 5 minute monologue before every boss battle? I can just go explore this sewer and figure out WTF it is for myself without my party breaking out into conversation and telling me what I need to do? WOW!

The battles do get a bit exhausting though. I think it’s made more bearable because you’re constantly sparking new abilities and leveling up all these different skills.
 
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DonkeyPunchJr said:
It honestly feels refreshing after Metaphor, having a story that leaves a lot to your imagination. You mean I don’t have to listen to each character give a 5 minute monologue before every boss battle? I can just go explore this sewer and figure out WTF it is for myself without my party breaking out into conversation and telling me what I need to do? WOW!

The battles do get a bit exhausting though. I think it’s made more bearable because you’re constantly sparking new abilities and leveling up all these different skills.
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The battle system definitely starts off slowly, but ramps up at a good pace as you learn new abilities and level up weapon types. You eventually unlock better skills that let you hit multiple enemies at once and do big damage, as long as you have the right weapon/weakness combo. Fights where you don't have the right type of weapon, or have run out BP and are stuck using just basic attacks, those become a huge slog even later on.

Dungeons in this game are cool because they start becoming a weird balancing act of "how far into this dungeon can I get before I run out of BP for damage spells and healing?". The items to recover BP are pretty expensive / rare, which is great. And with permadeath being a thing in this game, the stakes are actually pretty high.

And while this game does have the modern trappings of quest markers for everything, there are actually a lot of zones you can't access without exploring for different exits that aren't exactly marked on your map. This makes a pretty good balance of old school adventuring with modern QoL features that I'm enjoying a lot.
 
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This is gonna be my first Romancing SaGa game. Should get the copy in a few days, let's see how it goes!
 
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Is this the first time that Tomomi Kobayashi's artworks have been so well rendered in a full 3D game? I have that impression anyway.

Edit: Ah, my bad, it's Yoshiro Ambe the chara-designer.

The demo is convincing me and I had absolutely no desire for this game when they released the first trailer. A very pleasant surprise.
 
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Just hit the 30-hour mark, and finally got to the "final" era.

I love how in old school JRPGs, the games would typically give you the ability to grind as much as you wanted to, and would often give you more and more better stuff to grind on / against for as long as you're up for it. Case in point, this game's class / ability system is like that. In addition to the eight or nine starting classes, I think I've unlocked about 10-12 additional ones (some that even have M and F ability variants) that make for some wonderful skill and party compositions. Honestly, even though I'm near the end of the game now, I could probably spend another 20–30 hours grinding out abilities as I've largely ignored about half of the classes I've unlocked.

This game continues to be great.
 
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Is GMG still the best price on this for Steam at 20% off? I totally forgot this was out already. This year is insane for JRPGs.
 
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Finished with Veilguard. Gonna start this next.

Never played a Romancing SaGa game before, let's see how this goes.

The initial intro and art is extremely modern Dragon Quest-y, didn't realize this was going to be such a tropey JRPG.


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Why yes, I would love to play as the lady with her tits falling out while receiving a golden shower.


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Modern JRPG's have spoiled me a bit. I wish there was an option to 'auto battle' so the smaller fights can be done quicker with the CPU auto attacking on my behalf.
 
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yo wtf ...

I was just doing a random mission and when it ended, the game suddenly time skipped me 137 years in the future with a brand new emperor and party ...

I know this game's schtick is that when you die you get to choose a new emperor, but I didn't die and the game didn't give me any kind of warning that it was going to happen :(

I miss Gerard.
 
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I've now currently playing this as well (Completed Y's X)

Its been interesting so far, (about 10 hours in) the story is interesting, but its the leveling system that really got me. Being able to equip whatever weapons you want on people (At least i have not seen any limits). Example: I have a magic user who also uses a Bow and Hammer (Cool).

The time skips are throwing me off.. but at the same time forces you to try out different party combinations.

One thing I've been struggling with is determining if I'm under or over leveled, since there are so many different levels..

Playing the Switch version and some of the load times are quite long, and the "detail" load in can be quite jarring.. but nothing that has prevented me from enjoying the game so far.
 
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adamsapple said:
yo wtf ...

I was just doing a random mission and when it ended, the game suddenly time skipped me 137 years in the future with a brand new emperor and party ...

I know this game's schtick is that when you die you get to choose a new emperor, but I didn't die and the game didn't give me any kind of warning that it was going to happen :(

I miss Gerard.
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Yea....this was in the original too. Depending on what you're doing, certain events will initiate a timeskip.

I finished the remaster a few weeks ago and I'm enjoying the remake a lot. I'm only 4 hours in but the way magic works is COMPLETELY different from the OG and remaster.
 
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Finished the game with about 38 hours on the clock.

One of my favorite games of the year, despite the game's obvious jank. Lovely, fan-servicy character designs. Great turn based battles and leveling system. Really just a lovely coat of paint on an already great game.
 
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Finished the game with about 38 hours on the clock.

One of my favorite games of the year, despite the game's obvious jank. Lovely, fan-servicy character designs. Great turn based battles and leveling system. Really just a lovely coat of paint on an already great game.
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I'm starting to get bored lol. Battles are way too monotonous, wish there was an auto-battle or something for basic, quicker fights. And my RPG-brain compels me to fight everything on the map, so it's affecting me extra.
 
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I'm starting to get bored lol. Battles are way too monotonous, wish there was an auto-battle or something for basic, quicker fights. And my RPG-brain compels me to fight everything on the map, so it's affecting me extra.
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It's true that battles get pretty monotonous, I sometimes had to keep reminding myself that this game is just the evolution of Final Fantasy Legends 1 for the Gameboy lol

Especially by the end of the game, you'll ideally skip about half of the battles in an area - mostly so that you can survive with enough BP intact to not get stuck using items to recover it, but also just because there are increasingly diminishing returns once you hit weapon level 55 or so.

As for auto-battle - you do get a character later on that is really powerful, with the downside that they're stuck on auto-battle, and you never get to tell them what to do. That was actually a godsend for me, but it came about 3/4ths of the way through the game. It's definitely weird that since the AI work to make that happen exists in the game that you can't just toggle it on at-will.
 
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As for auto-battle - you do get a character later on that is really powerful, with the downside that they're stuck on auto-battle, and you never get to tell them what to do. That was actually a godsend for me, but it came about 3/4ths of the way through the game. It's definitely weird that since the AI work to make that happen exists in the game that you can't just toggle it on at-will.
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Is it a class of character or someone specific by name?

Feel free to put it in spoiler tags so I can keep an eye out.
 
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Is it a class of character or someone specific by name?

Feel free to put it in spoiler tags so I can keep an eye out.
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There is a quest to look out for called Meeting the Automaton. Completing the quest will give you

a new class (Automaton) that is always the same character (Coppelia) in every era

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