Ulysses 31
Member
Check out the Gamers Nexus video and it seems more common with adapters so far.Ulysses 31 both have had the issue happen
On another note, Corsair's 12VHPWR Type-4 power cables came in stock!
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RTX 4090 12VHPWR cable appears to be very dangerous
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On another note, Corsair's 12VHPWR Type-4 power cables came in stock!
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
Yeah I think this is a combination of user error along with a cable design that has a low tolerance for user error and an outsized impact from any issues.
Jet Set Willy
Member
Both, but mostly adapters (although most people will be using the adapters).
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
The TC should have the thread title updated. It's not as representative of the current situation
Fess
Member
Going by GamerNexus new video and Nvidia’s response it seems like the answer was there weeks ago:
Pagusas
Elden Member
Lets also remember 0.04% is more than within range of manufacturing expected lemons/warrenty issues. Also, just going by a normal thread on gaf about PC building, we have to assume at least 10% of the people building a PC are incompetent. Now should the cable be more fool proof? Absolutely, GN had great suggestions about the cable needing an audible clickin, and the sense wires should only connect when the connection is fully secured. Hopefully nvidia, intel and the spec agency will make those changes.
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
Yeah reading reviews of any PC component will make you question the competency of people building PCs and also their awareness of their ability.
Pagusas
Elden Member
1000000%. I half wonder if their were some private memo's to GN and sharing of information.
Jet Set Willy
Member
Yes but most manufacturing issues don't cause a fire hazard, and, the 4090 hasn't been out for long. The Xbox 360 RROD didn't happen for everyone on day one, or even necessarily the first year, but it was inevitable in time. That failure percentage could continue to increase in the coming days/weeks/months. However, let's hope in this case (also for my sake as a 4090 FE owner) that GN is spot on with their assessment of the cause(s).
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DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Kudos to Gamers Nexus for doing some actual research + refraining from speculation. While everybody else made fear mongering clickbait YouTube videos based on pictures they found on Reddit.
Think I’ll get some of those GN rubber coasters for Christmas so I can support actual journalism.
Think I’ll get some of those GN rubber coasters for Christmas so I can support actual journalism.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
125,000 4090's sold so far. That is impressive.
Fess
Member
What’s the sales numbers for other graphics card launches? Like the 3080
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LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I'm not sure as those are the numbers from the Gamersnexus video straight from Nvidia.
Now that you brought it up is be interested.
What would be more interesting is a 3090 comparison.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Add me to the founders edition 4090 owners club. Cards a beast!
Glad to hear there's no issue with the cables and it's just plebs not using things properly again.
Glad to hear there's no issue with the cables and it's just plebs not using things properly again.
Ulysses 31
Member
Fess
Member
Suprim Liquid X was my #1 choiceDo you really prefer FE's over these(if you had the choice)
But I had to accept a regular Suprim X instead. Not as well-cooled but it’s still running cooler than my 3070Ti and is a beast even with silent bios.
Ulysses 31
Member
My Liquid X is on backorder with no indication when it will be back in stock.Suprim Liquid X was my #1 choice
But I had to accept a regular Suprim X instead. Not as well-cooled but it’s still running cooler than my 3070Ti and is a beast even with silent bios.
I may have to settle with the Aorus Waterforce.
Celcius
°Temp. member
I’ve always preferred air cooling over AIOs personally. 4-5 years from now I feel like the air cooled card is less likely to have issues. (Less moving parts)Do you really prefer FE's over these(if you had the choice)
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Fess
Member
I just slammed the buy button at launch and got a bit lucky with the Suprim X since I knew it would fit in my case, but I wanted the Liquid, would’ve felt better with the pricing insanity.
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//DEVIL//
Member
Here is an advice for you.. never Aio gpu ..Do you really prefer FE's over these(if you had the choice)
They will die on you . Whatever 2 months or 2 years, pumps fail. Then you have to worry about sending it back and be without a gpu for 3 weeks or whatever . Not worth the hassle.
In terms of 4090 AIO vs FE. My FE doesn’t reach 65 degrees ( i under volt my cards) Why should I AIO again ? To get 60 degrees or 55?
The OC performance gain in these cards is a joke and not worth the 300$ premium.
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Buggy Loop
Member
https://www.google.com/search?q=8+p...hUKEwjmzJ_Axrj7AhXEGDQIHZ8SB_4QrQIoBHoECCQQBQ
So bozos plugging a GPU connector incorrectly is nothing new it seems.
“wHAT aBOUt thE BAD dEsIGn?”
Seems like anything “pin” and you’re having 0.04% fuckups.
All these fire hazard proclamations in the past month and even big companies joining in in the past days..
Nvidia will have to slap a sticker around the connector with an ikea instruction guy explaining what to do.
So bozos plugging a GPU connector incorrectly is nothing new it seems.
“wHAT aBOUt thE BAD dEsIGn?”
Seems like anything “pin” and you’re having 0.04% fuckups.
All these fire hazard proclamations in the past month and even big companies joining in in the past days..
Nvidia will have to slap a sticker around the connector with an ikea instruction guy explaining what to do.
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There is no 30 disconnects. That was FUD.
baphomet
Member
That's not FUD. It's what the connector is rated for. Its just that it's no different than any of the other cables for the last 20 years.
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Ulysses 31
Member
Only had 1 AIO fail on me once(coolant leak) in the last 5 years and I usually get a new card every 2 years orso.
The reason I like these cards is because they're 2 slot so I can make use of all my mobo PCI-E slots(I use PCI-E > M.2 adapters).
Also, the AIO don't heat up the mobo as much since they don't blow heat from the sides inside the case.
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DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Do you really prefer FE's over these(if you had the choice)
Founders edition for me. First one I've owned but the 4090 FE looks like a beast imo and from the reviews seems like the best bang for the buck.
I always had gaming trio X before though.
Buggy Loop
Member
Always surprises me how this place gets clickbaited by tech youtubers even nowadays.
How many times will it take to know 95% of them are clickbaiters with no goddamn knowledge on tech?
I only have subscriptions to optimum tech & Gamers nexus by now. All the others are clowns.
They tried to make you believe this :
and peoples fell for it, holy fuck..
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nikos
Member
Got downvoted so many times on reddit for saying it was user error and here we are. Of the ~50 cases, they all seem to have started there.
CableMod is constantly posting, taking full advantage and people are too stupid to realize it. Nvidia subreddit has pretty much become a giant ad for their cable. Most people posting their builds are including CableMod in their title as if it's a significant component. The place has become hiveminded and delusional.
CableMod is constantly posting, taking full advantage and people are too stupid to realize it. Nvidia subreddit has pretty much become a giant ad for their cable. Most people posting their builds are including CableMod in their title as if it's a significant component. The place has become hiveminded and delusional.
SantaC
Member
but it shouldnt happen at all for a product that costs 3000 euro. Stop being a Nvidia Shill.
Nvidia is a shit company and deserves to be humbled.
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diffusionx
Gold Member
Sorry but potential fire hazards and burning equipment are not “fake drama”.
Note 7 caused a worldwide recall with about 100 instances and they sold a lot more than 100k of those (about 2.5 million).
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
You can take any electronical equipment and make it catch on fire.
If someone is too delicate with his new gpu to plug in the plug to the end it's his fault.
Sure, the plug should be better designed to avoid possibility of bad plug in but still...
Celcius
°Temp. member
You're completely right, that place has become a hivemind and advertisement for CableMod.
diffusionx
Gold Member
Yea, exactly, it should have been better designed, end of story. The reaction was warranted, when talking about potential fires.
rabbity-thing
Member
Totes agree. There's a big difference between an electrical fire as a result of gross negligence vs. the result of simple mistake. Products should be designed to account for simple mistakes.
looks kinda like I was right, doesn't it? lololol
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
We are talking about people building electronics as a hobby. There are tons of simple mistakes you can make that are potentially deadly (electric shock) or fire hazards. Building a PC is as easy as it gets but if you aren't aware or paying attention to the fundamental risks then you shouldn't be doing it.
Pagusas
Elden Member
100% yes, FE with an EK block is much preferred to those. Its what I did. Full power limit, most compact size, no stupid internal pump to worry about.Do you really prefer FE's over these(if you had the choice)
Buggy Loop
Member
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
I didn't want to say it but yeah electricity was a mistake.
Yes, sorry that’s what I meant. Literally nothing has changed, and let’s be honest - you’ll get a lot more than 30x connections anyway.
FingerBang
Member
As expected. It might have been exaggerated on the internet (I know, crazy), but the issue is there.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
A brain fart but I wonder how else world would go on if electricity would never be invented/used as we use it today.
Would we have gas pipes? Would we run out computers on steam?!
Could anything else do the same thing electricity does...
diffusionx
Gold Member
It’s a new cable that was catching on fire in large terms relatively, where nobody involved had any idea about why.
It was not exaggerated and it was not unwarranted. In the end we are going to get a better, safer cable and that is what matters. Nvidia should be thanking their lucky stars it is a cable design issue leading to user error and not a fundamental issue with their GPU to warrant a full recall.