I think it'd just heat up where the resistance is. If it were to generate that much heat that the whole 2ft length of wire melted then that heat would desolder the GPU connector etc. I'm sure it would have images of or mentioned that if it had.
I simply asked how the power supply end of the cable can melt if it's the GPU end of the cable which is causing the heat build up.
Didn’t know the mb bios was that important. When I first started it the ASUS mb wanted me to install some software package, stumbled onto a thread that said ASUS had crap software and installing the armour crate or whatever it was called was like installing bloatware, so I skipped that.
Yes, at the GPU end. The image you linked shows both ends. So, that would mean there was some form of bad connection at the PSU end for the heat to also build up there.
The image is months ago . And the test actually come from Nvidia, which send to gamers nexus by SIG iirc .
During short circuit both sides are under loads way out of their safety specification and next failure point can potentially be anywhere.
Could it be because of the larger size of the 4090 cards compared to the 3090ti causing issues with cables coming into contact with cases causing bending.
It's not that important, but this time i want to have everything to be perfect.
Yeah I’m not criticizing your priorities, it’s how I wish I did things as well but I rushed it (should’ve waited on 13600K, 13700K or 13900K), I too should look into the bios
thank you.
So, the PCI-Sig image you posted was actually an older article and with completely unrelated images stuck on for effect and made to look like the burnt connectors were the results of the tests.
show me.
I stand corrected.
they're the same images used elsewhere. It's either 2nd or maybe 3rd.
LiquidMetal14
yeah, my cable looks the same as yours. 
3 videos on the subject of these cables within a week which has netted over 1mill views. how many beer tokens is that?
Agreed. Though this is a really expensive component to have to worry about, though. Especially with rma support going downhill.
Possibly add cable quality control issues as a factor? Thinking out loud.
Seems Galax did some testing and they concluded it's the result of the cable not being pushed in correctly
Does it say in the manual that for tight(ish - this isn't even that tight) mends that you must use an adapter?More fearmongering from Jay?
I need to block this guys Youtube channel.
90 degree and 180 degree connectors should be used anyway.
I don’t think there is anything to worry about here tbh, as long as you make sure the plugs are seated properly of course. The heat I’m seeing looks like normal heat spread from the graphics card, not from bad connection which would’ve happened quickly and on specific problematic pins, the further away from the graphics cards I look the cooler cable is.For science! Some heat camera pics when playing the new A Plague Tale.
Just booted it up:
A couple minutes later, stabilized for awhile with 99% GPU usage
Bonus pic. If anyone ever wonder where the heat comes from in a PC
The heat on the 12VHP connector was building up over time but stabilized just under 50C, I couldn’t see that the heat comes from the actual connection, or a specific spot on the connector, it looked like it slowly spread from the graphics card itself and into the cable and became cooler the further away on the cable I looked, the 4 adapter plugs were cool all the time.
www.igorslab.de
2400 euros in europe for a 4090 and they can't even bother to put a quality cable?Interesting information from Igor. Mainly he tries to make sure everyone is on the same page by making clear that the connector itself is not the problem, but more like the adapter Nvidia provides.
The horror has a face - NVIDIA’s hot 12VHPWR adapter for the GeForce RTX 4090 with a built-in breaking point | igor´sLAB
Those who are now beating up on the new 12VHPWR (although I don’t really like the part either) may generate nice traffic with it, but they simply haven’t recognized the actual problem with the…
Summary and conclusion
The overall build quality of the included adapter for the GeForce RTX 4090, which is distributed by NVIDIA itself, is extremely poor and the internal construction should never have been approved like this. NVIDIA has to take its own supplier to task here, and replacing the adapters in circulation would actually be the least they could do. I will therefore summarize once again what has struck those involved (myself included) so far:
- The problem is not the 12VHPWR connection as such, nor the repeated plugging or unplugging.
- Standard compliant power supply cables from brand manufacturers are NOT affected by this so far.
- The current trigger is NVIDIA’s own adapter to 4x 8-pin in the accessories, whose inferior quality can lead to failures and has already caused damage in single cases.
- Splitting each of the four 14AWG leads onto each of the 6 pins in the 12VHPWR connector of the adapter by soldering them onto bridges that are much too thin is dangerous because the ends of the leads can break off at the solder joint (e.g., when kinked or bent several times).
- Bending or kinking the wires directly at the connector of the adapter puts too much pressure on the solder joints and bridges, so that they can break off.
- The inner bridge between the pins is too thin (resulting cross section) to compensate the current flow on two or three instead of four connected 12V lines.
- NVIDIA has already been informed in advance and the data and pictures were also provided by be quiet! directly to the R&D department.
All the images of the burnt connectors are from setups without severe bends, also on the official Nvidia forum the consensus is that the PCI-Sig tests on the bending were early prototypes and not release versions of the cable.
Could be a bad batch, hard to know. After looking with a heat camera I can’t see any reason to be concerned for my card and cable at least, card don’t reach over 70C and the cable stabilize just under 50C at 99% usage. If it would get hot after 10 hours at 100% then so be it, it’s a scenario I’ll never have anyway. Maybe cryptominers should look at a different card idk
Interesting information from Igor. Mainly he tries to make sure everyone is on the same page by making clear that the connector itself is not the problem, but more like the adapter Nvidia provides.
The horror has a face - NVIDIA’s hot 12VHPWR adapter for the GeForce RTX 4090 with a built-in breaking point | igor´sLAB
Those who are now beating up on the new 12VHPWR (although I don’t really like the part either) may generate nice traffic with it, but they simply haven’t recognized the actual problem with the…
Summary and conclusion
The overall build quality of the included adapter for the GeForce RTX 4090, which is distributed by NVIDIA itself, is extremely poor and the internal construction should never have been approved like this. NVIDIA has to take its own supplier to task here, and replacing the adapters in circulation would actually be the least they could do. I will therefore summarize once again what has struck those involved (myself included) so far:
- The problem is not the 12VHPWR connection as such, nor the repeated plugging or unplugging.
- Standard compliant power supply cables from brand manufacturers are NOT affected by this so far.
- The current trigger is NVIDIA’s own adapter to 4x 8-pin in the accessories, whose inferior quality can lead to failures and has already caused damage in single cases.
- Splitting each of the four 14AWG leads onto each of the 6 pins in the 12VHPWR connector of the adapter by soldering them onto bridges that are much too thin is dangerous because the ends of the leads can break off at the solder joint (e.g., when kinked or bent several times).
- Bending or kinking the wires directly at the connector of the adapter puts too much pressure on the solder joints and bridges, so that they can break off.
- The inner bridge between the pins is too thin (resulting cross section) to compensate the current flow on two or three instead of four connected 12V lines.
- NVIDIA has already been informed in advance and the data and pictures were also provided by be quiet! directly to the R&D department.
Seems Galax did some testing and they concluded it's the result of the cable not being pushed in correctly
What would you like them to say? It's all on video. They ran 1500w through the connector and tested it and couldn't recreate the increase in temps by bending the cable. Should they just lie to appease the latest internet bandwagon drama?
