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NVIDIA tells board partners to collect GeForce RTX 4090 cards affected by melting 16-pin power adapter - VideoCardz.com

NVIDIA requests board partners to collect and send damaged RTX 4090 cards to HQ Igor’sLAB reports that NVIDIA has notified all AICs (Add-in-Card) partners to collect RTX 4090 affected by ‘melted’ 16-pin power connectors and ship them directly to the HQ. NVIDIA is stepping up its response to the...

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[KungFucius]

So it is user's fault. Got it. Nicely done by Galax and Nvidia (figures).

igors lab claims the included adapters are also marginal, there is no proper strain relief and variation is soldering. So it is a combination of user error with marginal adapter. If they are connected correctly and not bent, all pins make good contact and no heating. If they are not plugged in right and/or bent under a lot of strain then some pins can make poor contact which leads to high resistive heating.

And by marginal, It is a very small fraction that are showing this, unless you believe the bullshit that all cards are being scalped and Jensen is holding back supply to force people to buy 3090Tis and these are the only people who got actual cards. I mean shit in reality there are a handful of cases out of 10's of thousands of 4090s. OMG Recall all cards. You know the next stupid rumor is going to be that Nvidia is holding back 4000 series cards until they can redesign the connector/adapter/ customer .

It would be nice for them to add a TC to the connector on the board or maybe 1 on each side. It could put the GPU into low power mode if the temp gets too high. I don't think the issue will be common enough to require it, but it would shut the idiots up when the same thing doesn't happen when these people by 5090s in 2 years.

 

[benno]

NVIDIA tells board partners to collect GeForce RTX 4090 cards affected by melting 16-pin power adapter - VideoCardz.com

NVIDIA requests board partners to collect and send damaged RTX 4090 cards to HQ Igor’sLAB reports that NVIDIA has notified all AICs (Add-in-Card) partners to collect RTX 4090 affected by ‘melted’ 16-pin power connectors and ship them directly to the HQ. NVIDIA is stepping up its response to the...

videocardz.com

weird. Where's the little IC? I thought it was supposed to be an intelligent cable with a chip in it which sends info to and from the GPU to PSU? I think it was Nexus who stated that the only cables with this chip are the official Nvidia cables and the Cablemod ones?

 

[kuncol02]

weird. Where's the little IC? I thought it was supposed to be an intelligent cable with a chip in it which sends info to and from the GPU to PSU? I think it was Nexus who stated that the only cables with this chip are the official Nvidia cables and the Cablemod ones?

Where would that cable send any info? Old power supplies have only power output cables (and ATX connector with "power on" pin)

 

[benno]

Where would that cable send any info? Old power supplies have only power output cables (and ATX connector with "power on" pin)

It has 4x (2x connected) sensing pins on the connector which tells the GPU how many cables are attached to the PSU and what is being drawn from them. It was supposed to regulate the power draw from the PSU to stop one cable being overloaded. I was sure some youtube vid stated it was an active cable with a chip because I recall hearing that the only other cable with it in was the CableMod one.

 

[Celcius]

Nvidia designs awesome videocard but then provides cheap adapter and no DisplayPort 2.0 port to cut costs? Oof

 

[Jayjayhd34]

Is this case of serious overclocking or happing none overclocked cards ?

 

[Celcius]

Is this case of serious overclocking or happing none overclocked cards ?

Non-overclocked straight out of the box

 

[dcx4610]

Based on the laughable size of these new cards, I could see future GPUs just being external boxes with its own power supply, cooling, etc.

I've always been a full size case guy but it's not just the case size but the weight, length and strain these new cards are putting on the motherboards. I could easily see something that looks like the Xbox Series X that just houses your GPU that you sit next to your PC.

Check out this reaction:

 

[Celcius]

 

[Silver Wattle]

Like I expected, QC issues due to poor design choices are the culprit.

 

[Warnen]

My psu maker shipping the 12 pin cables for free if u got it in last year. Singed up for one.

 

[rsouzadk]

What would you like them to say? It's all on video. They ran 1500w through the connector and tested it and couldn't recreate the increase in temps by bending the cable. Should they just lie to appease the latest internet bandwagon drama?

igors lab claims the included adapters are also marginal, there is no proper strain relief and variation is soldering. So it is a combination of user error with marginal adapter. If they are connected correctly and not bent, all pins make good contact and no heating. If they are not plugged in right and/or bent under a lot of strain then some pins can make poor contact which leads to high resistive heating.

And by marginal, It is a very small fraction that are showing this, unless you believe the bullshit that all cards are being scalped and Jensen is holding back supply to force people to buy 3090Tis and these are the only people who got actual cards. I mean shit in reality there are a handful of cases out of 10's of thousands of 4090s. OMG Recall all cards. You know the next stupid rumor is going to be that Nvidia is holding back 4000 series cards until they can redesign the connector/adapter/ customer .

It would be nice for them to add a TC to the connector on the board or maybe 1 on each side. It could put the GPU into low power mode if the temp gets too high. I don't think the issue will be common enough to require it, but it would shut the idiots up when the same thing doesn't happen when these people by 5090s in 2 years.

And.. it is the cable.

 

[Solarstrike]

 

[hlm666]

It has 4x (2x connected) sensing pins on the connector which tells the GPU how many cables are attached to the PSU and what is being drawn from them. It was supposed to regulate the power draw from the PSU to stop one cable being overloaded. I was sure some youtube vid stated it was an active cable with a chip because I recall hearing that the only other cable with it in was the CableMod one.

It doesn't regulate the power by communicating with the psu, it senses how many pcie 8 pin connectors are connected and then the card only pulls the power those cables can supply.

 

[winjer]

 

[OZ9000]

Based on the laughable size of these new cards, I could see future GPUs just being external boxes with its own power supply, cooling, etc.

I've always been a full size case guy but it's not just the case size but the weight, length and strain these new cards are putting on the motherboards. I could easily see something that looks like the Xbox Series X that just houses your GPU that you sit next to your PC.

Check out this reaction:

I really hope there is a focus on efficiency for the next gen of GPUs.

Give me a 4090 level card with a TDP of 250W. Now that would be a success. Perhaps the 5070 can deliver in this regard.

 

[PeteBull]

I really hope there is a focus on efficiency for the next gen of GPUs.

Give me a 4090 level card with a TDP of 250W. Now that would be a success. Perhaps the 5070 can deliver in this regard.

Very likely rtx 5070 or whatever that card gonna be named, so 2024-2025 latest

 

[benno]

When are people going to realise that these stupid fuckers on youtube are making videos and are just talking shit to rack up views.
Jay2Cents has bent cables all over the place - no increase in temps
Jay2Cents has cut snapped cables and dismantled connectors - no increase in temps
Now the other clown is telling me that a thermal camera, something which has been used for years for this very thing, can't tell me if a piece of plastic is getting heated up enough to melt because a fan is blowing some cold air on it.
and people are still believing this shit?

How many videos from these "experts" are we going to see each telling us how and why these connectors are melting and yet not of them have managed to increase the temperatures on the cables in their set ups higher than a few 'c?
This shit is exactly the same as what happened with the 3080/3090 launch with the crash to desktop. All these clowns on youtube told the world it is was due to capacitors and it turned out it was an aggressive boost done in nvidia drivers. They all slowly deleted their drama videos and peddled it back.

Someone please just melt a cable like what's in the photos and show how they did it?

 

[winjer]

When are people going to realise that these stupid fuckers on youtube are making videos are just talking shit to rack up views.
Jay2Cents has bent cables all over the place - no increase in temps
Jay2Cents has cut snapped cables and dismantled connectors - no increase in temps
Now the other clown is telling me that a thermal camera, something which has been used for years for this very thing, can't tell me if a piece of plastic is getting heated up enough to melt because a fan is blowing some cold air on it.
and people are still believing this shit?

How many videos from these "experts" are we going to see each telling us how and why these connectors are melting and yet not of them have managed to increase the temperatures on the cables in their set ups higher than a few 'c?
This shit is exactly the same as what happened with the 3080/3090 launch with the crash to desktop. All these clowns on youtube told the world is was due to capacitors and it turned out it was an aggressive boost done in nvidia drivers. They all slowly deleted their drama videos and peddled it back.

Someone please just melt a cable like what's in the photos and show how they did it?

Buildzoid has more knowledge about electronics than almost any other youtuber out there. jay2cents is an amateur, in comparison.
Just because you don't like what he is saying, doesn't mean he is wrong.
Buildzoid is the most reliable and in-depth source of information regarding memory. And one of the most reliable sources for information about electronics in general.

 

[benno]

Buildzoid has more knowledge about electronics than almost any other youtuber out there. jay2cents is an amateur, in comparison.
Just because you don't like what he is saying, doesn't mean he is wrong.
Buildzoid is the most reliable and in-depth source of information regarding memory. And one of the most reliable sources for information about electronics in general.

It has nothing to do with if I like something or not. I want to hear the truth and not some bullshit click bait video. I'm sorry if you're happy to blindly follow whatever some croaky voiced idiot on youtube is telling you. I'm not. i want evidence.
Proof is in the pudding, so to speak. None of them have provided any apart from "listen because I'm saying it and I have a large group of followers"
The only people who have managed to raise the temps of the connector are GALAX and they had to throw 1500w down the thing in order to do it.

Show me a cable melting and how they did it. until then they're just talking bullshit

 

[MidGenRefresh]

I don't know about the other Gentleman but using jay2cents as a source for anything is laughable at best.

 

[winjer]

It has nothing to do with if I like something or not. I want to hear the truth and not some bullshit click bait video. I'm sorry if you're happy to blindly follow whatever some croaky voiced idiot on youtube is telling you. I'm not. i want evidence.
Proof is in the pudding, so to speak. None of them have provided any apart from "listen because I'm saying it and I have a large group of followers"
The only people who have managed to raise the temps of the connector are GALAX and they had to throw 1500w down the thing in order to do it.

Show me a cable melting and how they did it. until then they're just talking bullshit

LOL. Buildzoid is telling the exact facts of the matter.
He is not just some random guy on the internet. He studied this stuff at the university.
And he has several years of making high quality content about electronics.
Once again, just because you don't like the truth, doesnt mean it's not reality.

 

[benno]

LOL. Buildzoid is telling the exact facts of the matter.
He is not just some random guy on the internet. He studied this stuff at the university.
And he has several years of making high quality content about electronics.

He's a guy on youtube.

Once again, just because you don't like the truth, doesnt mean it's not reality.

Why are you trying to make it personal. Why not refute what I'm saying instead of repeating "you just don't like it"
You can't show a video of the cable melting because there isn't one. How many videos from these youtube celebs are you going to post and blindly accept before the penny drops that they aren't backing up what they say.
I will believe it when I see it. I'm not running from reality. I just want evidence, that it all. Show me evidence.

 

[winjer]

He's a guy on youtube.

Why are you trying to make it personal. Why not refute what I'm saying instead of repeating "you just don't like it"
You can't show a video of the cable melting because there isn't one. How many videos from these youtube celebs are you going to post and blindly accept before the penny drops that they aren't backing up what they say.
I will believe it when I see it. I'm not running from reality. I just want evidence, that it all. Show me evidence.

Your argument is that you think the video is clickbait and that he is an idiot.
You demand all sort of evidence, while providing none.
For these couple of days, all you did is try to discredit every source of information, without rime or reason. Even when it's companies like PCI-SIG, electronic experts or even reports from NVidia itself.
So yes, at this point I don't think you are taking this conversation seriously. You only want things that affirm what you want to ear.

 

[bender]

He's a guy on youtube.

You can apply this dismissive attitude to any source.

 

[benno]

Your argument is that you think the video is clickbait and that he is an idiot.

Yes. They have made multiple videos stating reasons and haven't been able to demonstrate any of them.

You demand all sort of evidence, while providing none.

I should provide evidence of what exactly? I'm not the one making claims about things on the internet.

For these couple of days, all you did is try to discredit every source of information, without rime or reason. Even when it's companies like PCI-SIG, electronic experts or even reports from NVidia itself.
So yes, at this point I don't think you are taking this conversation seriously. You only want things that affirm what you want to ear.

you mean the bullshit you're peddling. Yes. The nexus video was a prototype cable which nvidia themselves tested and destroyed and sent those images to pci-sig - because Nvida, Intel and PCI-sig all played a part in the design and testing of those cables.
Your whole argument is to try and make this personal, all because I question you. You think I should just blindly follow the bullshit you post too? is that how it works?

Can you show me someone melting the cables? Yes or no?
if the answer is no, and I just have to accept what you or some other youtuber says then you're just parroting bullshit like the rest of them.

 

[winjer]

Yes. They have made multiple videos stating reasons and haven't been able to demonstrate any of them.

I should provide evidence of what exactly? I'm not the one making claims about things on the internet.

you mean the bullshit you're peddling. Yes. The nexus video was a prototype cable which nvidia themselves tested and destroyed and sent those images to pci-sig - because Nvida, Intel and PCI-sig all played a part in the design and testing of those cables.
Your whole argument is to try and make this personal, all because I question you. You think I should just blindly follow the bullshit you post too? is that how it works?

Can you show me someone melting the cables? Yes or no?
if the answer is no, and I just have to accept what you or some other youtuber says then you're just parroting bullshit like the rest of them.

There have been several cables shown to have melted. You just don't want to see them.
Several users have posted evidence about their cables burned.
NVidia is in conjunction with AIBs recalling all damaged cables to assess what is happening and how to improve.

Making it personal? You have been trying to discredit every person and company that shows any data that you don't agree with.
You have aded nothing to the discussion, except contempt for every source of information.

 

[benno]

There have been several cables shown to have melted. You just don't want to see them.
Several users have posted evidence about their cables burned.
NVidia is in conjunction with AIBs recalling all damaged cables to assess what is happening and how to improve.

Yes. I've seen the same images of them you have. No melted cables were provided by the youtube videos you posted. Only users caused melted cables. I've been asking for evidence that what the youtubers are saying is factual, not that cables don't melt.

Making it personal? You have been trying to discredit every person and company that shows any data that you don't agree with.
You have aded nothing to the discussion, except contempt for every source of information.

You're doing it again. I make a point that there's no evidence and you ignore that point and go after me. Do you have a 4090? I have a 4090, so I have a genuine interest in this.
What's your interest in this. I bet you've never even seen a 4090, or held one of these cables you claim to know so much about.
Did you know that the cables had a click lock similar to a Display Port cable? It clicks in to place? Did you know that in the official Nvidia reddit that a lot of people didn't know this and have had their cables incorrectly plugged in?

 

[baphomet]

For the amount of click bait trash that Jay has put out about this you'd think there would be at least one person able to replicate the problem.

 

[winjer]

Yes. I've seen the same images of them you have. No melted cables were provided by the youtube videos you posted. Only users caused melted cables. I've been asking for evidence that what the youtubers are saying is factual, not that cables don't melt.

Just because some youtubers haven't had problems with these cables, doesn't mean this problem doesn't exist.
Several consumers had problems, and it's a matter that is being taken seriously by nvidia, PCI-SIG and AIBs.
This is not just some made up event.

You're doing it again. I make a point that there's no evidence and you ignore that point and go after me. Do you have a 4090? I have a 4090, so I have a genuine interest in this.
What's your interest in this. I bet you've never even seen a 4090, or held one of these cables you claim to know so much about.
Did you know that the cables had a click lock similar to a Display Port cable? It clicks in to place? Did you know that in the official Nvidia reddit that a lot of people didn't know this and have had their cables incorrectly plugged in?

What do you mean there is no evidence? Several consumers had issues with these cables.
NVidia and PCI-SIG did tests with these cables, found issues and are actively investigating the matter.
An issue like this will never affect 100% of users. But it is affecting enough people, that all these companies are taking notice.

You have a 4090, then it's in your interest to keep an eye on your cable and what information comes out.

And the RTX 4090 is not the only card that uses these cables. And since it's becoming a standard with PSU and GPUs going forward, it will affect more and more people.
So it's in the interest of all consumers that these issues are solved as soon as possible.

 

[KungFucius]

Based on the laughable size of these new cards, I could see future GPUs just being external boxes with its own power supply, cooling, etc.

I've always been a full size case guy but it's not just the case size but the weight, length and strain these new cards are putting on the motherboards. I could easily see something that looks like the Xbox Series X that just houses your GPU that you sit next to your PC.

Check out this reaction:

I was thinking the same thing. Maybe it comes with a PCIE adapter that fits in the slots and houses the output ports with some cabling to connect the GPU box. Having it all be external could allow for more freedom for the layout and cooling too. Still would be a PITA. But these things are so big people like me are vying for an FE just because it fits in more cases, not because they care otherwise. Another funny idea would be to make the 'motherboard' the GPU and make CPUs and IO, etc add in cards. SO CPU, ram and IO on a card that looks like a 3090 that slots into a stonking beast that is 3x the size.

I really hope there is a focus on efficiency for the next gen of GPUs.

Give me a 4090 level card with a TDP of 250W. Now that would be a success. Perhaps the 5070 can deliver in this regard.

The 4070 ( cancelled 4080 12GB ) has a max draw of 285 W and is ~ 3090/Ti in performance. If they continue to do 1x 8 pin power for the 70 series, then maybe the 5070 will be similar and if you undervolt then maybe you can hit that 250W you want.

 

[benno]

Just because some youtubers haven't had problems with these cables, doesn't mean this problem doesn't exist.

Yes. A problem exists. I'm trying to find the cause.

What do you mean there is no evidence? Several consumers had issues with these cables.

Something melted the cables. Yes. What melted the cables? that is the question.
You are posting videos of youtubers who are all saying that breaks in the wires and bends are causing the melting.
They have bent and broken the wires themselves and the cables didn't overheat.
If they couldn't replicate the issue by doing extreme bends and breaks so why should I believe them?

My whole point, the one which you are arguing against is :-

Youtube content creators are claiming that breaks and bends are causing the cables to overheat and melt, but when they break and bend the cables themselve's they don't overheat and melt. Therefore, breaking and bending the cables isn't what is causing them to overheat and melt, is it?

NVidia and PCI-SIG did tests with these cables, found issues and are actively investigating the matter.

You're conflating 2 different things, and you know it.

You have a 4090, then it's in your interest to keep an eye on your cable and what information comes out.

Yes. and you're posting videos which claim to know why cables are melting, but they aren't actually showing any evidence of cables melting, and so I point this out, that those videos are not providing the evidence of what they're saying and you're taking it personal and acting like I kicked your dog.

 

[winjer]

Yes. A problem exists. I'm trying to find the cause.

Something melted the cables. Yes. What melted the cables? that is the question.
You are posting videos of youtubers who are all saying that breaks in the wires and bends are causing the melting.
They have bent and broken the wires themselves and the cables didn't overheat.
If they couldn't replicate the issue by doing extreme bends and breaks so why should I believe them?

You're conflating 2 different things, and you know it.

Yes. and you're posting videos which claim to know why cables are melting, but they aren't actually showing any evidence of cables melting, and so I point this out, that those videos are not providing the evidence of what they're saying and you're taking it personal and acting like I kicked your dog.

I posted videos about Buildzoid. A guy with university studies on electronics.
I didn't post anything about Jay2cents. I don't even watch his videos, because I don't trust him as a tech analyst.

One thing that you have to understand is that when producing things, there is always a margin of quality.
That's why so many companies create products with a high margin of failure. A good example of this are 8pin connectors, which have a large safety margin.
So even if a cable is produced with a slightly lower quality, it will still be more than good enough for it's intended use.
The 12VHPWR cable has a lower margin for safety. So there is a greater probability of failure.
But having a higher probability of failure rate does not mean every cable will melt and burn.
What nvidia and all these companies are doing now is trying to find ways to improve failure rate, to a lower level.

As far as we know, your cable might be just fine. And you'll never have any issue. Or maybe not.
So until this matter is concluded, keep an eye on your cable.

 

[benno]

I posted videos about Buildzoid. A guy with university studies on electronics.
I didn't post anything about Jay2cents. I don't even watch his videos, because I don't trust him as a tech analyst.

He's parroting the same thing as Jay2cents. Also he's saying that you can't measure the heat from melting plastic with a thermal camera. Something which has been done for years.

One thing that you have to understand is that when producing things, there is always a margin of quality.
That's why so many companies create products with a high margin of failure. A good example of this are 8pin connectors, which have a large safety margin.
So even if a cable is produced with a slightly lower quality, it will still be more than good enough for it's intended use.
The 12VHPWR cable has a lower margin for safety. So there is a greater probability of failure.
But having a higher probability of failure rate does not mean every cable will melt and burn.
What nvidia and all these companies are doing now is trying to find ways to improve failure rate, to a lower level.
As far as we know, your cable might be just fine. And you'll never have any issue. Or maybe not.
So until this matter is concluded, keep an eye on your cable.

why are you being condescending and speaking to me like I'm 12. I'm a grown up. This has nothing to do with anything previously posted. Why should I listen to you anyway?

I'm asking for evidence that bends are causing breaks which are melting the cables. You're now posting irrelevant fluff for some weird reason.

 

[winjer]

He's parroting the same thing as Jay2cents. Also he's saying that you can't measure the heat from melting plastic with a thermal camera. Something which has been done for years.


why are you being condescending and speaking to me like I'm 12. I'm a grown up. This has nothing to do with anything previously posted. Why should I listen to you anyway?

I'm asking for evidence that bends are causing breaks which are melting the cables. You're now posting irrelevant fluff for some weird reason.

You are not listening to anyone. So why should anyone care about you.
You have added nothing worthwhile to this thread.
For me this conversation ends here.

 

[GHG]

He's parroting the same thing as Jay2cents. Also he's saying that you can't measure the heat from melting plastic with a thermal camera. Something which has been done for years.

You can't. The heat is generated by the metal contact points underneath the plastic. Plastic doesn't conduct heat very well, everyone knows this. All we know is that in some instances enough heat is generated to trigger the melting point of the plastic enclosure.

A more elaborate method is required if we are to determine how much heat is generated in various circumstances (twisted cables, bent cables, pressure on the connector, poor seating, etc) within the connector. Pointing a heat gun at the external plastic tells us very little.

 

[benno]

You can't. The heat is generated by the metal contact points underneath the plastic. Plastic doesn't conduct heat very well, everyone knows this.

Yes. I understand plastic has low heat conductivity. But this plastic is melting.

Melting point of Polyamide – Nylon is 257 °C.

.
The Jay2Cent video shows the thermal camera show a clear change of a few degrees when he disconnected the furthest pin on the connector, yet I'm to believe that a pin acting as an electrical element and heating up enough to melt plastic isn't hot enough to show up on a that same camera?

You are not listening to anyone. So why should anyone care about you.

Yes. correct. I'm not listening to you because you're not saying anything worth listening to. You're creating straw man arguments rather than answer what I'm asking. Is the forum a hug-box where people aren't allowed to have different opinions?

You have added nothing worthwhile to this thread.
For me this conversation ends here.

I'm truly heartbroken

 

[RoboFu]

Okay fanb... err posters who laughed at this at the start.. is that enough proof?

good news is trhat its bad adapters and not cards.

 

[winjer]

Okay fanb... err posters who laughed at this at the start.. is that enough proof?

good news is trhat its bad adapters and not cards.

Better still. It seems that it's only the adapters sent by NVidia.
Changing the adaptor for a quality third party is probably the solution for now.

 

[Jayjayhd34]

Better still. It seems that it's only the adapters sent by NVidia.
Changing the adaptor for a quality third party is probably the solution for now.

It's still huge risk when your talking about 4 grand pc I really wouldnt touch these cards at the moment

 

[winjer]

It's still huge risk when your talking about 4 grand pc I really wouldnt touch these cards at the moment

Could be.
AMD and Intel stuck with 8Pin for their GPUs released, or to be released this year.

 

[OZ9000]

Could be.
AMD and Intel stuck with 8Pin for their GPUs released, or to be released this year.

I'm happy with the fact AMD haven't adopted the new standard. If their raster performance is similar at a lower price I'll go with them.

I'm also curious to see what we will see for the 4070/4080.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

Is Jayz2Cents full of shit or what?

First he said the problem is that bending too close to the connector causes it to partially pull the pins back and make poor contact, that’s what’s causing the problem.

Next video he says oh no, it’s actually happening only on the outermost pins, because if you bend it sideways, it causes the “PCB” to crack that the 12v lines are soldered to (he later corrects himself that it’s just a piece of metal and not a PCB).

I dunno maybe he will end up being right by sheer luck, but it seems pretty obvious he doesn’t know jack shit about what he’s talking about. He’s just finding pictures on Reddit and making up some plausible-sounding explanation to farm those views.

 

[winjer]

I'm also curious to see what we will see for the 4070/4080.

Supposedly, the 4080 12Gb that was cancelled, had a similar performance to a 3090Ti.
Maybe this will become the 4070.

For many GPU generations, when a new gen releases, it's mid range card would match the performance of the previous Gen flagship. But with a much lower price.

 

[RoboFu]

Is Jayz2Cents full of shit or what?

First he said the problem is that bending too close to the connector causes it to partially pull the pins back and make poor contact, that’s what’s causing the problem.

Next video he says oh no, it’s actually happening only on the outermost pins, because if you bend it sideways, it causes the “PCB” to crack that the 12v lines are soldered to (he later corrects himself that it’s just a piece of metal and not a PCB).

I dunno maybe he will end up being right by sheer luck, but it seems pretty obvious he doesn’t know jack shit about what he’s talking about. He’s just finding pictures on Reddit and making up some plausible-sounding explanation to farm those views.

thise are all the same thing lol. . if you bend the cables too much you can break the solder causing the issue.
just give it up. the guy knew there was a problem around the cable. where you said he was full of shit. there is a problem. you were wrong.

 

[benno]

thise are all the same thing lol. . if you bend the cables to much you break the solder causing the issue.
just give it up. the guy knew there was a problem around the cable. where you said he was full of shit. there is a problem. you were wrong.

That's the same dismissive attitude from everyone across the internet when you try and discuss what's actually going on.

They claimed bending breaks solder joints causing pins to melt plastic so multiple people test it and it didn't happen. Not once.
It could still be true and bending is in fact causing it all, but there's no evidence of it.

Is that an extreme bend to you? No. it's not. Although he admits he doesn't know if he pushed the cable in correctly. You know when it's pushed in correctly because you can't pull it back out again without squeezing the button.

Is that an extreme bend to you? No

What about this one? Extreme bending? No

Three people who have had their cables melt are being told it's down to extreme bending when none of them have bent the cable.

 

[Jayjayhd34]

That's the same dismissive attitude from everyone across the internet when you try and discuss what's actually going on.

They claimed bending breaks solder joints causing pins to melt plastic so multiple people test it and it didn't happen. Not once.
It could still be true and bending is in fact causing it all, but there's no evidence of it.

Is that an extreme bend to you? No. it's not. Although he admits he doesn't know if he pushed the cable in correctly. You know when it's pushed in correctly because you can't pull it back out again without squeezing the button.

Is that an extreme bend to you? No

What about this one? Extreme bending? No

Three people who have had their cables melt are being told it's down to extreme bending when none of them have bent the cable.

The top one has same kind of bend the jay said causes this issue

 

[benno]

The top one has same kind of bend the jay said causes this issue

But then he and others tried it and it didn't.

 

[Rocco Schiavone]