Gunstarheroes
Member
My actual set-up is a modded Model 2 with S-Video, Model 2 Sega CD, and then the 32x. I also have a CDX, since it tends to be more reliable as far as reading CD games is concerned.
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Sega Genesis/MegaDrive Appreciation Thread: Alien Storm > Golden Axe
- Thread starter IrishNinja
- Start date
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
Anyone here own a MegaJet? I kinda want one just to have but they are crazy expensive.
Gunstarheroes
Member
I've used one. Its fine if you want a japanese Mega Drive, but i'm not a huge fan of having the controller built on it. I can let it slide with the nomad since its meant to be a fully portable system. It bothers me when its meant to be a home system. Its cool as a collector's item, but not practical as a system, in my opinion.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
fuck this guy SO HARD
(brilliant concept for a boss fight though, in Treasure's tradition)
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
Can you actually use the controller port for one player or is it solely for a second player?
Gunstarheroes
Member
Its solely for 2nd player, just like the Nomad, far as i know.
Edit: Dynamite Headdy is an excellent, but incredibly hard game. Getting
The real ending
KDash31987
Member
Wow, that's a lot of info...though, to tell the truth, I knew all of that already. Hah. But thanks, though! It's definitely good info for everyone else!
I've had my Genesis 1/CD2/32X since I was a kid. I still have the boxes for the Sega CD and 32X with everything in them. If you look at the picture I posted earlier, you can see the 1/8 cable that I think came with the Sega CD sticking out of the Genesis, which is connected to the mixing port in the back of my Sega CD, which has left and right coaxial cables coming out of it. Here's some pictures I took just now to show it better:
And yeah, I know that the Genesis 1 and 2 use different cables. You can use the video out cable that goes from the Genesis 1 into the 32X to convert the connecter for the Genesis 2/32X to work with the Genesis 1. I don't know if that works with the stereo one, though, since my 32X only came with the mono one. I've only done that once or twice, because NBA Jam's graphics are a bit glitchy in parts through the 32X, and because Shadow of the Beast doesn't work at all with the add-ons connected...and, actually, that showed up glitchy when using a video cable, so I had to RF it. Heh.
I knew about the S-Video video thing beforehand, which is why I was only asking about the SCART to component thing, mainly because I wasn't sure if I really needed an expensive converter or not for a CRT TV. I only mentioned S-Video because I was saddened that one never existed, because it's what I use for everything else on a CRT (besides the RF-only consoles, and Master System).
Oh, I still have that spacer you're talking about, but I don't plan to get a Genesis 2 to use it with. If anything, I'd get one just to have a spare Genesis around for an extra room or something. It'd certainly make Shadow of the Beast easier to play. Hah.
Nope, I didn't...maybe I should next time. I don't think I even went into the options menu.
Is this another one of those instances where the US version was made more difficult than the JPN counterpart, like with Contra Hard Corps?
fuck this guy SO HARD
(brilliant concept for a boss fight though, in Treasure's tradition)
I never even made it to that guy...What exactly am I in for when I return to that game, lol! =*(
I got to the stage after the stage where you play it shoot-em-up style with the giant evolving baby face boss. So cool.
Yeah, apparently. The JPN version was a lot easier, but I'm not sure in what regard. It's so hard that most people consider the Japanese version to be the real version because the NA is almost "broken" to some degree. Had something to do with continues, possibly? I don't remember, lol!
I think you started with one continue, had more health and bosses took less damage. I do not know if it was a pal only thing, but some boss sprites/colors got changed too.
That last picture is Mickey Mania. This is World of Illusion:
World of Illusion is probably one of my very first co-op experiences. I always liked the graphics, too.
My days with Google images are over.
basic_element
Member
My second favorite system of all time behind the NES.
Really enjoyed the beginning of the life cycle.
Forgotten Worlds
Revenge of Shinobi
Thunder Force 2
Ghouls N Ghost
Golden Axe
Tommy Lasorda Baseball
Phantasy Star 2
Really enjoyed the beginning of the life cycle.
Forgotten Worlds
Revenge of Shinobi
Thunder Force 2
Ghouls N Ghost
Golden Axe
Tommy Lasorda Baseball
Phantasy Star 2
I enjoyed pretty much the whole lifecycle. And all that cartoony, real "video-gamey", super-colourful sprite-based stuff it just seemed to do better (or have more examples of it) than the SNES to me. So games like Micro Machines, Gunstar Heroes... super bright and fun.
It's probably been asked in here, but what's the best way to get back into playing my old carts again? I'm assuming that "modded console" is the answer, but don't even know what mods are available, let alone which specific console version I should do it for.
Or is there a particular knockoff console that behaves like the real thing? When I last investigated it, there were a few that emulated it, but it was all really poor emulation that always managed to screw something up. You'd think there'd be some kind of SOC now that's basically the guts of the MD shrunken down, rather than relying purely on software to do the job.
It's probably been asked in here, but what's the best way to get back into playing my old carts again? I'm assuming that "modded console" is the answer, but don't even know what mods are available, let alone which specific console version I should do it for.
Or is there a particular knockoff console that behaves like the real thing? When I last investigated it, there were a few that emulated it, but it was all really poor emulation that always managed to screw something up. You'd think there'd be some kind of SOC now that's basically the guts of the MD shrunken down, rather than relying purely on software to do the job.
fuck this guy SO HARD
(brilliant concept for a boss fight though, in Treasure's tradition)
I cannot get past this guy for the life of me. Pretty much halts my progress every damn time, even if I can get close to him without losing many lives (if any).
smbu2000
Member
Is there hissing coming from the headphone speaker out on those models? I didn't notice anything on my early JP MD1 using the headphone jack.
I also have a rev7 MD1 and the hissing is BAD on that through the headphone jack. Lowering the volume slider on the MD alleviates it somewhat, although I have to raise the volume on my AV amp to compensate for the lower volume when I use it.
Have you tried adjusting the volume slider on you MD/Genesis?
smbu2000
Member
I had assumed that there were some games that wouldn't be compatible with it (early release games?), but to be incompatible and use up all of the internal memory is just awful...
OT: Just bought a nice 6 pack of MD games (CIB) for 1,600 yen shipped. That includes good games like Thunder Force III, Gunstar Heroes and Wonder Boy V: Monster World III. TF3 usually goes for around that price by itself so it's a pretty good deal.
I already have those games on other formats; GH on VC/XBLA, MW Complete Collection on PS2, and Thunder Force Gold Pack 1 on Saturn, but it's still nice to have the original MD carts.
Not sure about the JP Megadrive, but I know I have Revisions 3, 5, and 6.8 -- all of them hiss through the headphone jack. Turning down the volume slider does help, but not enough IMO. I've just seen a video where the guy doing the AV mod gets the stereo straight from the chip near the headphone circuit (as opposed to the common method of getting it from the headphone contacts) in order to avoid the added noise. However I've read that doing this might alter the some aspects of the sound (like the bass level). I might have misread that though...
I might have to try that method out myself and compare the sound to an un-moded Genesis. I figure I have enough of them lying around anyway, so why not put that to some use.
But that's gonna have to be a rainy day project. There's so many other things I need to sort out first.What do you guys think about this one? I mean that does seem pretty cheap for a repro of Alien Soldier. Label looks kinda funny though (I know its a repro, but still).
Hmm... I've been curious lately about the extent the effects of the SCD add on. So you play a SCD game like Sonic CD, and apparently some sounds come from the Genesis and into the SCD via the mixing cable and the SCD mixes it with music and other things that it produces itself... But what about regular genesis games? I'm guessing that all the audio from cartridge games just gets passed through the cable, unaltered by the SCD?
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Pretty much. It's just the analog mixing of the two sound sources. I don't think there's a downside to playing a Genesis game through a Sega CD, if that's what you're getting at.
I was just wondering if that would be a way of getting noiseless audio without getting my hands dirty. My understanding is that the SCD does produce cleaner audio, but I guess that's limited to SCD games. Ah, well...
IrishNinja
Member
while waiting for the next Generation 16, i started watching Chronsega...not bad so far! interesting stuff here
Thanks
Phantasy Star III is killing me. I decided I needed to finish it because the most interesting bits happen right at the end. Promise the next episode is coming soon-ish.
Edit: I noticed you linked Generation 16 002 there. You know there are 7 episodes online, right?
IrishNinja
Member
Phantasy Star III is killing me. I decided I needed to finish it because the most interesting bits happen right at the end. Promise the next episode is coming soon-ish.
Edit: I noticed you linked Generation 16 002 there. You know there are 7 episodes online, right?
wait, you're involved with these? man i'm only halfway through ep 1 of chron and as a master system kid, it's blowing my mind. i gotta crash soon but tonight i'm all over these, this is the kinda info i've been looking for from books for a while now!
and yeah, i got all caught up on Gen 16 from this very thread putting me onto it, can't wait for the next one!
PS III...which character did you run with? i beat all of em near launch in the day, but i imagine it's not holding up well, it was (rightfully) the bastard child even then
I'm involved with Generation 16, not Chronsega.
I'm doing a run that will end with Aron (mostly because I want footage of his ending). Just started the third generation. Then I get to sift through all the footage. Oh, and the footage of the four other games for Episode 8 as well
IrishNinja
Member
that's so awesome. you guys' show is so thorough, it's really cool learning about the imports we didn't get (as noted, surprisingly few so far), and the changes to the ones we did. i've shown a few friends the Tetris ep because the licensing story is so insane, and it was great to have it laid out the way you guys did.
I subscribed immediately; keep 'em coming and if there's anything I can do to help (most of my carts are years later from where you guys are/not rare sadly, haha) lemme know! feel free to bump this thread when you get ep 8 & beyond up as well.
I subscribed immediately; keep 'em coming and if there's anything I can do to help (most of my carts are years later from where you guys are/not rare sadly, haha) lemme know! feel free to bump this thread when you get ep 8 & beyond up as well.
I really want to get a 50/60hz mod done to my megadrive before I start re-visiting games from my childhood.
I would do it myself, but am more worried about screwing up the case than anything else.
There's a place that does the mod but it's a semi-long tube ride away and the line that goes there always seems to be shut down whenever I try making my way over.
Also, I've seen some youtube videos and people have me worried that some screwy side-effects happen after carrying the mod out, for example
- one video had a dude running PAL Revenge of Shinobi (which I own) in 60hz and the audio was faster than it should be
- also, some people say that the mod screws around with trying to play 32x games
I would do it myself, but am more worried about screwing up the case than anything else.
There's a place that does the mod but it's a semi-long tube ride away and the line that goes there always seems to be shut down whenever I try making my way over.
Also, I've seen some youtube videos and people have me worried that some screwy side-effects happen after carrying the mod out, for example
- one video had a dude running PAL Revenge of Shinobi (which I own) in 60hz and the audio was faster than it should be
- also, some people say that the mod screws around with trying to play 32x games
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
At the time maybe, but have you played both recently? The Capcom game features much tighter controls, better level design with a great flow, and arguably nicer visuals and audio.
I would have to give both another go, but I remember each one having their own strengths.
In particular I enjoyed the animation, music and certain aspects of the gameplay more in the MD version
Gunstarheroes
Member
Sounds like its meant specifically for japanese carts. I don't know, i'm a little weary. I got a really nice repo, with a custom case even, for 50 bucks, and its worked flawlessly.
I haven't really jumped into the japanese side of things yet, but even then, i'm on the side of caution on this one.
daninthemix
Member
What are people thoughts on the best Mickey Mouse game? Castle vs World vs Mania?
Meccanical
Member
I was really looking for a gif of Shaq doing the Ali Shuffle but I can't find one.
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
What kind of sick joke is this? I didn't even have a Genesis back then but Aladdin was THE SHIT then and it still is. Level design can be argued depending on preferences, but much tighter controls? No way. The gameplay on it is hella sluggish. I also think the graphics are way better on Genesis and the midi may be lower quality but the music is better.
Shadow Hog
Member
Land of Illusion is the only one I've played, but it's a good one.
(And you technically can play it on a Genesis, too, via a Power Base Converter...)
Castle of Illusion is the best one. No question there.
World of Illusion is beautiful and super easy. It's also co-op though, so if you're playing with young kids or inexperienced gamers (say a wife or girlfriend...) then it's a great choice.
Mickey Mania is a solid game, but IMO it's not nearly as good as the other two.
Yeah i'm probably just going to wait on that, and just snag one from one of the more well known places. Was it the repro that was made to look like NA Genesis games (Red genesis banner, etc.)
As far as playing actual JP Megadrive carts, you can just use a game genie.
I checked the sellers ebay account a bit and I think the megadrive games he is selling are just Asian bootlegs from the 90's and not the higher quality reproduction carts made nowadays. I bought one from the seller and it shipped today. Hopefully it arrives this or next week and hopefully it works.
Megadragon15
Member
How is the Great Circus Mystery by Capcom?
Shadow Hog
Member
Incredibly easy, and rather short, but otherwise well-made.
Although, I played the SNES version, for what that's worth.
Diablohead
Member
World of illusion is god tier for mickey games
Lord British
Member
fuck this guy SO HARD
(brilliant concept for a boss fight though, in Treasure's tradition)
I actually find Twin Freaks quite easy, but there are a lot of other bosses and stages that hand me my arse in that game.
One of my favourite platformers of all time.
Anybody play any of the Super Fighter Team/Watermelon "new" games? I really like what little I've played of Star Odyssey and Pier Solar. Pier Solar is very Lunar-influenced, and Star Odyssey is very reminiscent in tone to Phantasy Star 2, though it may feel a bit dated at this point (not a problem for me, since I like really old RPGs)
Aladdin on Genesis, like other Shiny games, has some simple-ass movement that makes me feel like I'm throwing a sprite around on a screen. If I'm remembering right, SNES Aladdin has a player character with some, you know, states that govern movement. I remember the stages being pretty sloppy in the Shiny game, too.dark10x said:
Shadow Hog
Member
I've never felt that either Aladdin came controlled noticeably better than the other. They're both very solid. Genesis title being a bit faster-paced, but that's not necessarily either a boon or a mark against it, just different.
And to the claim that nobody owned it: IIRC, it was the top-selling third-party Genesis game at around 4 million units moved, ahead of NBA Jam (around 2 mil), but behind the first-party efforts Sonic the Hedgehog (20 mil) and Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (6 mil). It didn't do too shabby. (Although admittedly my source is a wiki, so this data could be entirely false, I dunno)
And to the claim that nobody owned it: IIRC, it was the top-selling third-party Genesis game at around 4 million units moved, ahead of NBA Jam (around 2 mil), but behind the first-party efforts Sonic the Hedgehog (20 mil) and Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (6 mil). It didn't do too shabby. (Although admittedly my source is a wiki, so this data could be entirely false, I dunno)
Gunstarheroes
Member
http://24.media.tumblr.com/ad58bbc9add601d18703b400f81c032b/tumblr_mg36tpRJzd1qmfnago1_1280.jpg
That's my personal copy, so yes, its the NA Genesis Cartridge.