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[Genesis Knight]

Man. About every three years, I boot up the old Saturn and convince myself I'm going to finish Legend of Oasis ... I never have. Instead of four Jinns you get six, and there is soooo much backtracking.

I need to start it again, and keep a journal, so I can remember where everything is located.

Loved the Genesis version, though.

Pretty much my opinion. Beyond Oasis is my favorite game of all time. ALL TIME.

I can't really stand Legends. Too dense, too much wandering around, and the digitized graphics reek.

Please, Sega, where's a proper sequel? XBLA it for all I care.

 

[IrishNinja]

Someday, I will find a reasonably priced copy of M.U.S.H.A. for my Genesis.

you and me both, man. ima find it a swap shop or garage sale or something, and totally not resell it!

 

[Teknoman]

Game Genie works just fine for import titles right? Also I need to take a shot of my current library for both here and the Saturn thread as well. Been Nintendoing it up lately.

Oh and whats a good price to pay for Dynamite Headdy or Beyond Oasis?

 

[dark10x]

Not really; every act is pretty damn similar to every other act in the same zone. The bosses are pretty nice, though, and the final boss is worth seeing, even though it's pathetically easy.

I absolutely detest the game. The level design is among the worst I've encountered with absolutely no flow or reason behind anything. It's almost as if it were created by a random tile generator. It LOOKS and sounds nice but that's it.

 

[Krelian]

Game Genie works just fine for import titles right? Also I need to take a shot of my current library for both here and the Saturn thread as well. Been Nintendoing it up lately.

Oh and whats a good price to pay for Dynamite Headdy or Beyond Oasis?

Be careful with Game Genie. In some cases you won't be able to save the game.

 

[Spectral Glider]

I didn't even realize that MUSHA was going for that high of a rate now... I wish I still had the box for it though.

I remember seeing copies of MUSHA back in the day, but I wasn't so much a shooter fan then and so it was never a game I picked up. If only I knew. Same goes for Snatcher on Sega CD. I remember seeing that in the store back in 95 I believe, I even scanned the box for several minutes because it was something I never heard of. But I was already on the "waiting for the Playstation" train and I didn't pick it up. Oh to go back in time.

 

[IrishNinja]

for those interested, Sega Trios (and Duals) are back in stock! i got mine shipped for just under $30, and was quite happy for it.

i don't even have a 32X yet but turning 3 huge power blocks into 1 feels awesome. i'll get that sega power strip one day~

ps yeah few months back im seeing what i guess were asian bootlegs of MUSHA go on the cheap, it's sad but i'd be tempted to jump on that (as well as a Wily Wars one) for the price, honestly

 

[Genesis Knight]

for those interested, Sega Trios (and Duals) are back in stock! i got mine shipped for just under $30, and was quite happy for it.

i don't even have a 32X yet but turning 3 huge power blocks into 1 feels awesome. i'll get that sega power strip one day~

ps yeah few months back im seeing what i guess were asian bootlegs of MUSHA go on the cheap, it's sad but i'd be tempted to jump on that (as well as a Wily Wars one) for the price, honestly

Why would you think they're bootlegs?

 

[drizzle]

for those interested, Sega Trios (and Duals) are back in stock! i got mine shipped for just under $30, and was quite happy for it.

Are they 110v only or 110-220 automatic?

I live in a 220v country, so that would be a necessity for me. Also, all my power bricks for my genny are either dead or dying, so this would be amazing.

Edit: The outer shell of my my Genesis Model 1 and SegaCD model 1 are both speckled with "white" drops (I think something spilled on it), that same Genesis haw a blown capacitor (which I already bought replacements, but I didn't install yet because I have to clean the motherboard), I have no interest in playing any of my games in them, but I still want to buy things to get them back to life. Why? I can easily emulate all my carts on my phone these days, god dammit.

 

[Shadow Hog]

I've tried Genesis emulation on my Atrix. In one way or another, it always left a lot to be desired. Touch controls are shit, first and foremost, but I can rectify that by using my phone's keyboard (but I don't mean a built-in keyboard, because that'd actually be convenient - no, the keyboard they sold separately for the phone in their attempt to make it a PC replacement). Even then, I swear the audio or video seems a bit off...

I have no such qualms with Kega Fusion, for what that's worth.

 

[PepsimanVsJoe]

Pretty much my opinion. Beyond Oasis is my favorite game of all time. ALL TIME.

I can't really stand Legends. Too dense, too much wandering around, and the digitized graphics reek.

This is pretty much my exact opinion of both games.

Oh and whats a good price to pay for Dynamite Headdy or Beyond Oasis?

About $10 for Dynamite Headdy. Beyond Oasis? Probably closer to $20, but that's only if you can't find anything for $10. Maybe people finally discovering that it's one of the best games ever made bumped up the price a bit.

 

[IrishNinja]

damn, i think i have beyond oasis on a collection disc but never really gave it chance, perhaps i should

does it have any relation to the game gear RPG thing? i think it was defender of oasis or something similar

Why would you think they're bootlegs?

lack of labels, super cheap price? i thought even the asian ones were expensive, but i could be wrong..in which case i missed an awesome deal. i dont even recall much text in MUSHA!

Are they 110v only or 110-220 automatic?

I live in a 220v country, so that would be a necessity for me. Also, all my power bricks for my genny are either dead or dying, so this would be amazing.

ah, you might have to check the linked site (retro game cave), if the details aren't there, the guy who runs the store is on a facebook page of the same name & quickly answered my questions as well, pretty helpful

on the merch front, anyone know where i can find these sega figures/toys? they look almost like the shenmue capsule ones, but i can never find them for sale anywhere!

also i know this isn't a dreamcast thread but fuck i keep checking first 4 figures to see if they put up preorders for chubby korean-ish Ryo Hazuki statue because hnnnnghhh

 

[Genesis Knight]

lack of labels, super cheap price? i thought even the asian ones were expensive, but i could be wrong..in which case i missed an awesome deal. i dont even recall much text in MUSHA!

Yeah, I didn't scroll down far enough.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SEGA-MEGADR...803?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cce274cbb

 

[drizzle]

I've tried Genesis emulation on my Atrix. In one way or another, it always left a lot to be desired. Touch controls are shit, first and foremost, but I can rectify that by using my phone's keyboard (but I don't mean a built-in keyboard, because that'd actually be convenient - no, the keyboard they sold separately for the phone in their attempt to make it a PC replacement). Even then, I swear the audio or video seems a bit off...

I have no such qualms with Kega Fusion, for what that's worth.

Well, of course. I'm just pointing out that I can enjoy these games much more easily than cleaning up a motherboard, re-soldering a blown capacitor and buying a 30+ dollar new power brick for my old ass systems.

So I shouldn't want to do all these things. But I do.

 

[IrishNinja]

Yeah, I didn't scroll down far enough.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SEGA-MEGADR...803?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cce274cbb

contacted the seller, he'd do MUSHA and Mega Man: Wily Wars for $27...i gotta admit, that's pretty tempting. if i can just game genie/otherwise mod my shit, i don't really need to save in either title, and realistically i'm not gonna have em otherwise, heh

 

[Genesis Knight]

contacted the seller, he'd do MUSHA and Mega Man: Wily Wars for $27...i gotta admit, that's pretty tempting. if i can just game genie/otherwise mod my shit, i don't really need to save in either title, and realistically i'm not gonna have em otherwise, heh

You unfortunately missed out on the Nolan brothers (shop is temporarily closed), who did cases with their repros:

http://segaage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=43&threadid=44526

Although I have a Battle Mania 2 from them I'm trying to get rid of, if anyone's interested.

This guy at least does labels unlike those half-ass boots:

http://segaage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=43&threadid=86597

 

[IrishNinja]

oh my god, i dont even know what sonic mega mix is. bubble bobble, MW 4, nice! genny format no less.

that current guy isn't bad either, price seem decent sans case...honestly if i could sort out my own label, i'd be good with the half-assery i'm looking at since it's just gonna get a printed-out cover for a universal game case anyway

also: i'm trading SNES & genny carts here on GAF, mostly for more genesis ones, if anyone's down

 

[drizzle]

omg, the Trio PSU is already gone. I hope they restock it.

Or maybe it's a sign I shouldn't get one. Either way, I hope they restock it.

 

[Shadow Hog]

damn, i think i have beyond oasis on a collection disc but never really gave it chance, perhaps i should

does it have any relation to the game gear RPG thing? i think it was defender of oasis or something similar

They have "Oasis" in the title.

That's about it.

The Genesis/Saturn games are The Story of Thor outside of the US, while the GG game is the unrelated Shadam Crusader: Harukanaru Oukoku in Japan.

 

[Scavenger]

If anyone wants an Asian boxed PAL MD2 console there is this crazy ebay seller who has already sold 79 brand new boxed MD2 consoles and he still has more than 10 available:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-BOXED-S...es_VideoGameConsoles&hash=item27cdd726f7#shId. For some reason shipping is free everywhere except North and South America. He is also selling a bunch of CIB brand new Asian PAL Megadrive games for not too bad prices and unlike the console the games have worldwide free shipping.

 

[IrishNinja]

okay, sorry to keep asking this. i promise i'll listen this time.

region 1, model 1 genesis (sadly with the "LICENSED BY" screen), if i wanna play a JP megadrive game i use the game genie as a passthrough, or do i need codes for every game? i see a master code for rockman wily wars, so i'm assuming i'd need that every time, dunno about MUSHA yet though.

anyone have a decent guide on breaking the slot tabs or whatever it is that'd also work? wondering how tricky that is/aesthetically pleasing it leaves the system.

 

[BocoDragon]

okay, sorry to keep asking this. i promise i'll listen this time.

region 1, model 1 genesis (sadly with the "LICENSED BY" screen), if i wanna play a JP megadrive game i use the game genie as a passthrough, or do i need codes for every game? i see a master code for rockman wily wars, so i'm assuming i'd need that every time, dunno about MUSHA yet though.

anyone have a decent guide on breaking the slot tabs or whatever it is that'd also work? wondering how tricky that is/aesthetically pleasing it leaves the system.

Early games had no region locking trickery aside from the different slot shape. You can just press start on the Game Genie screen and it boots. Later games need individual special codes (I believe). I think it's pretty easy to deal with... In the age of smartphones you can Google the code quick, and play.

Breaking tabs will only allow those games which need no Genie code anyway. I believe later games will still lock you out (unless you add the region switch too). And yes I think it would look ugly (the cart slot flaps will be shaped wrong! Lol).

Modding a JPN Mega Drive looks so much better since the slot already fits worldwide games. Though sadly... Genesis and PAL Mega Drive have better detailing, IMO

 

[Argyle]

okay, sorry to keep asking this. i promise i'll listen this time.

region 1, model 1 genesis (sadly with the "LICENSED BY" screen), if i wanna play a JP megadrive game i use the game genie as a passthrough, or do i need codes for every game? i see a master code for rockman wily wars, so i'm assuming i'd need that every time, dunno about MUSHA yet though.

anyone have a decent guide on breaking the slot tabs or whatever it is that'd also work? wondering how tricky that is/aesthetically pleasing it leaves the system.

As I mentioned easier, the Japanese Musha Aleste has no region lock.

Not sure exactly when publishers started region locking games but the first one I remember is Rolling Thunder 2.

 

[IrishNinja]

ah, cool - that one should be easy enough, then. was debating Contra: Hard Corps but honestly, that one's not nearly as unreasonably priced as the other two, i'll just hold out & make peace with a loose cart.

 

[Ramune]

okay, sorry to keep asking this. i promise i'll listen this time.

region 1, model 1 genesis (sadly with the "LICENSED BY" screen), if i wanna play a JP megadrive game i use the game genie as a passthrough, or do i need codes for every game? i see a master code for rockman wily wars, so i'm assuming i'd need that every time, dunno about MUSHA yet though.

anyone have a decent guide on breaking the slot tabs or whatever it is that'd also work? wondering how tricky that is/aesthetically pleasing it leaves the system.

I have the same model Genesis and use a Game Genie just fine for all but Yu Yu Hakusho, which is one of the ones that need a code entered. I wouldn't destroy your cart slot tabs.

 

[IrishNinja]

huh. any idea about super fantasy zone? prolly the last one im considering at the moment, ive got alien soldier & some others on the steam collection if anything.

 

[IrishNinja]

so hypothetically if id've fucked around & bought a 32x for less than $20 with "no cables" does that mean just no AC adapter, or did it use other cables idve have to track down?

also taking hypothetical recommendations here, CGR assures me Cosmic Carnage is a winner (heh), im eying Space Harrier & After Burner cause Suzuki, but i doubt they'll beat the saturn/DC entries. what else should i look for on the cheap?
Kolibri "arguably the best humming bird simulator" doesnt seem cheap sadly

*edit oooookay so im not that curious about spider-man: web of fire, it turns out

 

[Jake Tower]

32x requires: power adapter, av cable, and mixing cable.

The power adapter and av cable are the same as the Genesis model 2. The mixing cable required depends on the model of Genesis. For use on a model 2, the spacer is highly recommended or else the 32x's weight can press down and warp the motherboard.

All cables (unofficial) can be purchased from gametrog http://shop.gametrog.com/SEGA-ACCESSORIES_c6.htm

 

[Teknoman]

so hypothetically if id've fucked around & bought a 32x for less than $20 with "no cables" does that mean just no AC adapter, or did it use other cables idve have to track down?

also taking hypothetical recommendations here, CGR assures me Cosmic Carnage is a winner (heh), im eying Space Harrier & After Burner cause Suzuki, but i doubt they'll beat the saturn/DC entries. what else should i look for on the cheap?
Kolibri "arguably the best humming bird simulator" doesnt seem cheap sadly

*edit oooookay so im not that curious about spider-man: web of fire, it turns out

I say get Saturn Space Harrier. I'm kinda on hold since 3D Space Harrier for the 3DS might be announced for NA at any time...but i'm not sure if it actually plays better than the original.

 

[IrishNinja]

32x requires: power adapter, av cable, and mixing cable.

The power adapter and av cable are the same as the Genesis model 2. The mixing cable required depends on the model of Genesis. For use on a model 2, the spacer is highly recommended or else the 32x's weight can press down and warp the motherboard.

All cables (unofficial) can be purchased from gametrog http://shop.gametrog.com/SEGA-ACCESSORIES_c6.htm

ah, shit...model 1 genny so not worried about spacer, AV cables shouldn't be too hard to come up with (wait i need another port for it? FUCK), mixing cable sounds troubling...balls

I say get Saturn Space Harrier. I'm kinda on hold since 3D Space Harrier for the 3DS might be announced for NA at any time...but i'm not sure if it actually plays better than the original.

that ones like sub 10 so it's a potential candidate!

 

[A Black Falcon]

ah, shit...model 1 genny so not worried about spacer, AV cables shouldn't be too hard to come up with (wait i need another port for it? FUCK), mixing cable sounds troubling...balls

Yeah, that 32X-to-Genesis connection cable is required, and with a Genesis 1, not only do you need the 32X-to-Genesis-2 cable, but you ALSO need the cable that adapts that cable to the Genesis 1's AV plug. You'll need both parts. As many people only had Genesis 2's, the first part of that cable is more common than the Genesis 1 adapter is. When I got my 32X it only came with the cord to connect it to the Genesis 2, for instance, not the Genesis 1 adapter.

The 32X is pretty cool, but yeah, getting one without cables probably isn't the greatest idea, because of the need for three different cords (four if you need the Genesis 1 adapter) to be able to use it: that 32X-to-Genesis 2 cable, the Genesis 1 adapter if needed, a Genesis 2 power supply, and a Genesis 2 RF unit or AV cable (to connect to the TV, remember that the 32X uses Genesis 2 cords, not Genesis 1, because it's got stereo sound on the back port, like the Genesis 2; that's probably the main reason for the redesign on the model 2, so that they could make a stereo AV cable, something impossible with the Genesis 1.), and the spacer (for the Genesis 2).

 

[BocoDragon]

There are aftermarket 32X<->Genesis cables on eBay now... It's not as bad as it used to be.

 

[IrishNinja]

okay guys, i appreciate all that: few variables here though

1) sega CD is model 2
2) i will soon have a trio power unit (supplies genesis, CD & 32x)
2) said model 1 genesis is already custom modded for both stereo ports & s-vid

so, yeah...i was looking at say something like this (assuming it'd even work for a model 2 sega CD) but i'm not sure which components id actually need now.

edit crap when did Knuckles Chaotix start going for $30+ loose? i saw it go for like half that a while back somewhat regularly, i wanna say...damn

 

[canocha]

I've been searching for the PAL version of Separation Anxiety... but damn its either expensive or PAL cover + NTSC cart...

I love the game, but no way i'm paying £60 for it!

 

[drizzle]

2) said model 1 genesis is already custom modded for both stereo ports & s-vid

I really need to get good at modding things, this would be amazing.

Edit: Just looked it up. Yeah, I'm never doing that.

 

[Shadow Hog]

Casual reminder, but you can't use the S-Video out on the Genesis while using the 32X. You'd have to have the 32X itself S-Video modded.

 

[Dave Long]

Threats are over... here's what I have... everything is original. Crappy iPhone 4 pix follow. Most stuff purchased back in the 90's though some things I have repurchased or acquired recently. The cart only stuff includes Truxton, The Ooze, Power Rangers, World Series Baseball, Spider-Man, Batman Forever, Batman Returns, and Hard Drivin'. Jaguar XJ220 is the SEGA CD without a box or manual. Most of my cases are in perfect condition and complete except for Ghouls 'n' Ghosts, which also has no manual.

I was moving furniture this weekend so I took the opportunity to snap shots of all my SEGA stuff, Neo Geo, PS2 and Gamecube collections. I'll put the Saturn stuff in the Saturn thread and the DC stuff too. See below for the Neo... just because.

Games...

Games in their home after sorting and alphabetizing... Strider was being played.

HIGH DEFINITION GRAPHICS in the Goatse pose waiting for the 32X to be put back in.

MUSHA! Only $9.95! Yes, that's what I paid.

Neo AES! Before you ask... the Neo Turf Masters is a conversion.

Neo Spines! Bonus sighting of a Diamond Monster 3D 4MB 3DFX card I found while cleaning.

 

[IrishNinja]

HOLY CRAP dibs on Dave's stuff when he dies...damn man that's a nice collection!

Casual reminder, but you can't use the S-Video out on the Genesis while using the 32X. You'd have to have the 32X itself S-Video modded.

@#$%, totally forgot this...okay, so if im reading this right, i need the AV cable that a genesis model 2 uses.

 

[woodypop]

Neo AES! Before you ask... the Neo Turf Masters is a conversion.

I would LOVE to get into the AES, but the software is so expensive. ;_;

 

[A Black Falcon]

okay guys, i appreciate all that: few variables here though

1) sega CD is model 2
2) i will soon have a trio power unit (supplies genesis, CD & 32x)
2) said model 1 genesis is already custom modded for both stereo ports & s-vid

so, yeah...i was looking at say something like this (assuming it'd even work for a model 2 sega CD) but i'm not sure which components id actually need now.

edit crap when did Knuckles Chaotix start going for $30+ loose? i saw it go for like half that a while back somewhat regularly, i wanna say...damn

Casual reminder, but you can't use the S-Video out on the Genesis while using the 32X. You'd have to have the 32X itself S-Video modded.

That's what I thought, yeah -- if you want to use S-Video with the 32X, you'll need to get your 32X modded for S-Video, and of course will need some S-Video cable (custom? new port? I don't know) to connect the Genesis to the 32X, plus of course a mod to get S-Video output from the 32X. It's the 32X's video that needs to go to the television, after all.

As for sound, I really don't know how you'd deal with that stereo mod. I mean, you couldn't use the stock Genesis 1 adapter+Genesis 2 to 32X cable, as that's mono of course on the Genesis 1 end. But that's required for the video, unless you get it modded or something... so yeah, without a mod, you might be stuck with mono from the Genesis part of the audio. I'm not sure though.

 

[Slermy]

That's what I thought, yeah -- if you want to use S-Video with the 32X, you'll need to get your 32X modded for S-Video, and of course will need some S-Video cable (custom? new port? I don't know) to connect the Genesis to the 32X, plus of course a mod to get S-Video output from the 32X. It's the 32X's video that needs to go to the television, after all.

As for sound, I really don't know how you'd deal with that stereo mod. I mean, you couldn't use the stock Genesis 1 adapter+Genesis 2 to 32X cable, as that's mono of course on the Genesis 1 end. But that's required for the video, unless you get it modded or something... so yeah, without a mod, you might be stuck with mono from the Genesis part of the audio. I'm not sure though.

He wouldn't need a special cable to go from the Genesis to the 32X, that cable passes through RGB already.

Really, his real options are to convert an RGB signal to S-Video at some point. Either through something like an XRGB, or through Micomsoft's Mega Drive 2 (also works on the 32X) specifiic adapter, the XMD-3. Either way, money will need to be spent, and his s-video on his Genesis cannot be used in conjunction with the 32X.

 

[A Black Falcon]

He wouldn't need a special cable to go from the Genesis to the 32X, that cable passes through RGB already.

Really, his real options are to convert an RGB signal to S-Video at some point. Either through something like an XRGB, or through Micomsoft's Mega Drive 2 (also works on the 32X) specifiic adapter, the XMD-3. Either way, money will need to be spent, and his s-video on his Genesis cannot be used in conjunction with the 32X.

Okay, so you could use the Genesis to 32X cable, and then just mod the 32X for S-Video? I was thinking that because the Genesis's AV port on the back is RF or composite only, that you wouldn't be able to do it with just a 32X mod because then only the 32X video would be enhanced and the Genesis video would presumably still be composite quality or something, but I guess that's wrong? I don't know anything about RGB cables, we don't have them here.

But yeah, regardless, what he wants to do is not simple. And I'm still not sure if there's any possible way to get stereo sound with a Genesis 1 hooked up to a 32X. I mean, you can get stereo from the 32X part, but few games make any use of the 32X"s audio hardware, that's for sure... and you can't use those Sega CD audio out jacks with the 32X, can you? I'm not certain how that works.

The Genesis 1 may be more likely to have better audio and video circuitry than the Genesis 2, but at least the Genesis 2 has stereo sound with a 32X, no problem. (And my Genesis 2's video is as bad as any, but I am lucky and got one of the best audio chips.)

 

[IrishNinja]

yeah, XRGB is down the road when i'm making more money; for now, this 32X is just an oddity with a few games ill be grabbing for cheap, so having it over composite will have to do, nothing fancy here - i was just trying to see exactly what cables i'd need for my setup/which i could pass on, as ive spent too much already, heh.

 

[A Black Falcon]

yeah, XRGB is down the road when i'm making more money; for now, this 32X is just an oddity with a few games ill be grabbing for cheap, so having it over composite will have to do, nothing fancy here - i was just trying to see exactly what cables i'd need for my setup/which i could pass on, as ive spent too much already, heh.

If you're okay with mono composite, then that cable pack you linked a few posts ago would certainly include everything you could need, though I don't know which of those pieces you have already; you likely already have something connecting the Genesis 1 (headphone jack or av out mod jacks?) to the Sega CD's Mixing input, for instance, I would imagine...

 

[IrishNinja]

you likely already have something connecting the Genesis 1 (headphone jack or av out mod jacks?) to the Sega CD's Mixing input, for instance, I would imagine...

oddly, no; i seem to only have the AC adapter of said model 2 SCD plugged in, works just fine though (as far as video/audio), so whatever said mixing cable does, i don't seem to currently have one

 

[A Black Falcon]

oddly, no; i seem to only have the AC adapter of said model 2 SCD plugged in, works just fine though (as far as video/audio), so whatever said mixing cable does, i don't seem to currently have one

What the Mixing cable does is brings stereo audio from the Genesis 1's headphone jack on the front, because of course its AV and RF out ports are mono only, to the Sega CD's Mixing input port. It's just a standard male to male headphone audio cable, long enough to reach. Then you can get stereo output from the red and yellow AV jacks on the back of the SCD. It works great with any Genesis + Sega CD setup, but not with the 32X I don't believe. I have a Genesis 2 though, so I don't need that cable, and keep my 32X attached all the time. It makes using it easier.

(Oh, the model 1 and model 2 Sega CD are exactly the same in terms of ports and cables, there's no difference between the two. Both use a model 1 Genesis power supply, and have the same ports on the back.)

So yeah, the model 1 Genesis power supply works with the Genesis 1, Sega CD (1 or 2), and also can work with the Master System (but not vice versa, I think; the SMS uses less power, so that supply might not be enough for a Genesis, but I have heard that SMSes should be fine on Gen1 power supplies), and some non-Sega consoles (Neo-Geo maybe? Famicom/Super Famicom? Atari Jaguar? I forget). The model 2 Genesis power supply also works with the 32X and Game Gear. Finally, the CDX and Genesis 3 each require their own system-exclusive power supplies.

 

[Shadow Hog]

Just to clear this up, the Genesis can output RGB natively. In fact, that's exactly what it feeds into the 32X! However, pretty much no TV in the US reads native RGB, hence why you only get RF and composite out of it normally (S-Video requiring a mod).

So, when I say "get the 32X S-Video-modded", I mean the 32X will gain an S-Video out port, much like S-Video mods for Geneses give those S-Video outs as well. You would otherwise hook the 32X up like you would any other Genesis; feed the raw RGB signal into the 32X, and then get the mixed output in S-Video form from the add-on.

I've heard 32X S-Video is quite attractive (it even cleans up the annoying jailbar effect that you usually get), but the mod is a real bitch to do, hence very few have ever been done. Personally, I'd rather look into a Power Base Converter than a 32X, seeing as in both cases, I'm not 100% sure what games I'd go after anyway, but I have more of a hankering to revisit Land of Illusion featuring Mickey Mouse than I do Knuckles Chaotix...

 

[Slermy]

Okay, so you could use the Genesis to 32X cable, and then just mod the 32X for S-Video? I was thinking that because the Genesis's AV port on the back is RF or composite only, that you wouldn't be able to do it with just a 32X mod because then only the 32X video would be enhanced and the Genesis video would presumably still be composite quality or something, but I guess that's wrong? I don't know anything about RGB cables, we don't have them here.

But yeah, regardless, what he wants to do is not simple. And I'm still not sure if there's any possible way to get stereo sound with a Genesis 1 hooked up to a 32X. I mean, you can get stereo from the 32X part, but few games make any use of the 32X"s audio hardware, that's for sure... and you can't use those Sega CD audio out jacks with the 32X, can you? I'm not certain how that works.

The Genesis 1 may be more likely to have better audio and video circuitry than the Genesis 2, but at least the Genesis 2 has stereo sound with a 32X, no problem. (And my Genesis 2's video is as bad as any, but I am lucky and got one of the best audio chips.)

You can actually, but ONLY if you have a Model 2 Genesis/Mega Drive paired with a Model 2 Sega CD. This is how mine is setup. Sounds great; 32X audio is the same quality, but CD based games have a definite improvement.

 

[A Black Falcon]

You can actually, but ONLY if you have a Model 2 Genesis/Mega Drive paired with a Model 2 Sega CD. This is how mine is setup. Sounds great; 32X audio is the same quality, but CD based games have a definite improvement.

What... huh? Why would there be any difference at all between a model 1 or model 2 Sega CD? I've never heard of any such thing, that's quite unlikely... the two Sega CD models have the same hardware inside and the same outputs.

Other than that though, really, the 32X can send its audio (that is, those rare bits of audio that come from the 32X and not the Genesis) down through the Genesis 2 and Sega CD? I didn't think it'd work... interesting if it does, I might want to try it.

Just to clear this up, the Genesis can output RGB natively. In fact, that's exactly what it feeds into the 32X! However, pretty much no TV in the US reads native RGB, hence why you only get RF and composite out of it normally (S-Video requiring a mod).

So, when I say "get the 32X S-Video-modded", I mean the 32X will gain an S-Video out port, much like S-Video mods for Geneses give those S-Video outs as well. You would otherwise hook the 32X up like you would any other Genesis; feed the raw RGB signal into the 32X, and then get the mixed output in S-Video form from the add-on.

I've heard 32X S-Video is quite attractive (it even cleans up the annoying jailbar effect that you usually get), but the mod is a real bitch to do, hence very few have ever been done. Personally, I'd rather look into a Power Base Converter than a 32X, seeing as in both cases, I'm not 100% sure what games I'd go after anyway, but I have more of a hankering to revisit Land of Illusion featuring Mickey Mouse than I do Knuckles Chaotix...

Thanks for this explanation, I didn't know that that 32X-to-Genesis cable actually was RGB.

 

[Slermy]

What... huh? Why would there be any difference at all between a model 1 or model 2 Sega CD? I've never heard of any such thing, that's quite unlikely... the two Sega CD models have the same hardware inside and the same outputs.


Other than that though, really, the 32X can send its audio (that is, those rare bits of audio that come from the 32X and not the Genesis) down through the Genesis 2 and Sega CD? I didn't think it'd work... interesting if it does, I might want to try it.


Thanks for this explanation, I didn't know that that 32X-to-Genesis cable actually was RGB.

Perhaps it's only the Model 2 Genesis/Mega Drive that's needed, but I don't have a Model 1 Sega CD nor a Model 1 Genesis to verify this. The 32X most definitely can output its audio through the Sega CD though.