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Sega Genesis/MegaDrive Appreciation Thread: Alien Storm > Golden Axe

BocoDragon

or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Isn't this supposed to be the ultimate in Sega cartridge porn?

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God struck down the Tower of Babel for man's hubris.
 
Isn't this supposed to be the ultimate in Sega cartridge porn?

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I'm still partial to this one I found earlier:

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Model 2 Genesis w/ 32X and Model 2 Sega CD, running Sonic & Knuckles & Knuckles & Knuckles & Knuckles & Knuckles & Knuckles & Knuckles & Knuckles & Knuckles & Knuckles & Knuckles & Knuckles & Knuckles & Knuckles & Knuckles & Knuckles & Knuckles & Knuckles & Knuckles & Knuckles & Knuckles & Knuckles & Knuckles & Knuckles
 

Teknoman

Member
I've never really liked Rolling Thunder 3... I mean, it's decent, but it's so different from the first two Rolling Thunder games that I don't like it as much as either of them. The game's a faster-paced game more about action than the first two; the deliberate pace is somewhat lost. The two player co-op mode that the second game has (yes, even on Genesis) is also gone. The game's just so much more actioney... you get multiple weapons, can choose a high-powered weapon from the beginning of the stage, etc. Overall it obviously feels like an attempt to make a faster-action Rolling Thunder game, but it gets a bit too far away from why I love the originals. In comparison, the second game plays pretty much exactly like the first one, but with improvements like co-op. It's the better game, in my opinion.


I'm sure the official cables are on ebay sometimes... the Genesis 2/32X ones look a lot like Saturn cables, but have some slight design differences, and a different pinout on the plug of course. The round plug's the same though, and you actually can plug a Saturn AV cable into a Genesis 2... it just won't work. :p


No, there aren't. What the game has instead is that the first floor has five different exits, to each one of the four trial dungeons, each of which is a bit over a floor long. Only after beating all of them will you go to the second through fifth floors of the main dungeon. So it's not all one big thing. Oh, and the game may only have ~10 floors worth of dungeon, but it more than makes up for that with its high encounter rate and stiff difficulty curve... like, at the beginning of the game, you literally have to level up a few times right in front of the entrance. Going much of anywhere will cause your near-certain defeat.

Sounds like its going to be a tough one lol.

Oh and one of these should do fine for Genesis Model 1 stereo right?

http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10218&cs_id=1021815&p_id=5596&seq=1&format=2
 
Sounds like its going to be a tough one lol.
Yeah, it will. It's a simple game, so grinding is most of what you do... at least the graphics are fairly nice, though.

Oh and one of these should do fine for Genesis Model 1 stereo right?

http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10218&cs_id=1021815&p_id=5596&seq=1&format=2
Yeah, that'll do it for sure, as long as that length is okay with you of course. But that kind of cable is probably the easiest way to get stereo out of a Genesis 1, yeah. Combine it with a Genesis 1 AV cable for the video.
 
I got up to the part where I got my two partners in SitD. Haven't touched it since.

It's nice, but could really, really use an automap; I tried the whole "draw out your own map" thing only to have to recenter the map twice over because the level was so damn large. Fortunately, its Saturn-based sequel, Shining the Holy Ark, rectified that.
 

Teknoman

Member
Yeah, it will. It's a simple game, so grinding is most of what you do... at least the graphics are fairly nice, though.


Yeah, that'll do it for sure, as long as that length is okay with you of course. But that kind of cable is probably the easiest way to get stereo out of a Genesis 1, yeah. Combine it with a Genesis 1 AV cable for the video.

Cool. Now to just find some reliable Genesis 1 AV cables.

I got up to the part where I got my two partners in SitD. Haven't touched it since.

It's nice, but could really, really use an automap; I tried the whole "draw out your own map" thing only to have to recenter the map twice over because the level was so damn large. Fortunately, its Saturn-based sequel, Shining the Holy Ark, rectified that.

Heh you should see my Metroid 1 map. Ended up stapling 3 other sheets to it, since I picked a poor spot to start drawing the map. it works though.
 
Here's a question for those who have played it. Is Monster World IV pretty good? I really enjoyed the previous one but I got stuck at some point and still to this day I can't figure out what to do next.
 
Here's a question for those who have played it. Is Monster World IV pretty good? I really enjoyed the previous one but I got stuck at some point and still to this day I can't figure out what to do next.
I started a run through on my Wii U. It's good, yeah. Noticeably more linear, though. Like, y'know how you can return to areas you've already cleared in Wonder Boy in Monster World? No idea why you'd want to, but you could. Right, well, there's not really any of that here, from what I've seen so far; I can't return to my home town now that I've reached the central palace town/hub world of Rapadagna City, and having cleared the volcano level, I can't go back to it, but must proceed to the water shrine. Not a bad change, per se, just something of note.
 

Stronty

Member
I used to have a Commodore color monitor that was found working in a junkyard, it even came with a video cable which you could plug into the MIDI output on the back of a model 1 Genesis. The cable has rca video and two audio rca's for stereo. QUESTION is, does the genesis output stereo out of the round MIDI port on the back? Those old Commodore monitors are fantastic for 16bit gaming, blows away typical crt tv's. I had heard, the monitors were oroginally JVC tv studio monitors repurposed for Commodore.
 

dark10x

Digital Foundry pixel pusher
bottom left hand one, is that referring to an upscaler? we really need a thread for those!
Why not look three shots over at the RGB to component transcoder? That will give you better picture quality than s-video could.
 

IrishNinja

Member
i was looking at a few SCART/component converters on ebay, but they weren't cheap, and i thought most were powered? which is another burden since i'm out of plugs at the moment. really, down the road (when ive another room/more $) i thought it'd be cool to do that for gen, SNES & saturn but part of me thinks at that point i might just wanna invest in a good upscaler.
 

Dave Long

Banned
I've never really liked Rolling Thunder 3... I mean, it's decent, but it's so different from the first two Rolling Thunder games that I don't like it as much as either of them. The game's a faster-paced game more about action than the first two; the deliberate pace is somewhat lost. The two player co-op mode that the second game has (yes, even on Genesis) is also gone. The game's just so much more actioney... you get multiple weapons, can choose a high-powered weapon from the beginning of the stage, etc. Overall it obviously feels like an attempt to make a faster-action Rolling Thunder game, but it gets a bit too far away from why I love the originals. In comparison, the second game plays pretty much exactly like the first one, but with improvements like co-op. It's the better game, in my opinion.
I hear you. I appreciate that the game is somewhat different from the first and second, and yes it is faster paced. It's not like you're moving at a run and gun pace, though. They just picked up the pace some.

I played it last night and 2 is still the best one, but 3 is definitely great and worth owning IMO.
 

Dave Long

Banned
Has anyone used the Sega X2 that they sell at Retro Game Cave? I've come to the realization that my model one with 32X won't fit in the cabinet so I think the best option is to put my mushroom on the Sega CDX. One power plug for that makes sense.

Anyone?
 

IrishNinja

Member
that's a really good question, a buddy of mine/local gaffer was asking before about the genesis/sega-CD combo as well, regarding fidelity & compatibility. surely one of the great sega fan sites has a solid breakdown on what to expect from these hybrids?
 

Dave Long

Banned
The price isn't bad. I may just take the plunge next week after payday. I'll let you guys know how that goes. I really want to play some Virtua Racing on 32X.
 

IrishNinja

Member
i hear ya Dave - im sitting on VR, Star Wars, Kolibri & have a package incoming with Knuckles, Space Harrier & After Burner...and my 32X showed up this morning!

...tragically, i have the cable for connecting it to the genesis, and said Trio, but despite ebay's estimate of being here yesterday, the AV cable is sitting in Maryland, last anyone updated the tracking...man i hope it shows up today
 
Has anyone used the Sega X2 that they sell at Retro Game Cave? I've come to the realization that my model one with 32X won't fit in the cabinet so I think the best option is to put my mushroom on the Sega CDX. One power plug for that makes sense.

Anyone?
I suppose the better question is, do these even work with a CDX? I'm remarkably unfamiliar with that hardware variant, so...
 

Dave Long

Banned
There's a picture of one in one of my posts in this thread. CDX is the best way to play Genesis/SEGA CD games now IMO thanks to its small size. 32X works with it just fine from what I know, it's just not recommended by SEGA because it's an odd fit.
 
No, I mean, I know what a CDX is, but more technical details, like what sort of power plugs it uses, that sort of thing I don't know.
 
I started a run through on my Wii U. It's good, yeah. Noticeably more linear, though. Like, y'know how you can return to areas you've already cleared in Wonder Boy in Monster World? No idea why you'd want to, but you could. Right, well, there's not really any of that here, from what I've seen so far; I can't return to my home town now that I've reached the central palace town/hub world of Rapadagna City, and having cleared the volcano level, I can't go back to it, but must proceed to the water shrine. Not a bad change, per se, just something of note.

I may check it out then. It certainly looks good for a genesis game.
 
No, I mean, I know what a CDX is, but more technical details, like what sort of power plugs it uses, that sort of thing I don't know.

The CDX uses a special power brick, and requires it -- it won't work with any other power supply. So it'd only work with a third party thing if that thing was designed to support it. I don't know if any do.
 
My first system, and it was my only system until 2004 when I got a PS2. Had handhelds inbetween but I loved the Genesis. Streets of Rage trilogy, and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: The Hyperstone Heist were my favorites.
 

cory64

Member
Plugged my headphones in my Genesis for the first time (well, with good headphones); sounds fantastic, but I couldn't seem to make the shielding/interference/static problem go away.
Now if only I had some of the games that I lost all those years ago; I'm down to just NBA Jam and Sonic 1 right now. Maybe I'll order a few and make a weeknd of it.
And better video than RF *.*
 

IrishNinja

Member
aw, man - Genesis Knight, that's a beautiful collection there. Centy and Pier too! so, so jelly.

kinda sad cause i got all the cables in for my 32X today, and was excited to hook it up but its messed up; Kolibri gets audio only, star wars & virtua racing get sound & picture but there's lots of graphics clearly missing...shit's unplayable. ive cleaned it (shit was mad dirty! like 3 q-tips) so i dont know what else to do here, contacting the seller on ebay now.

edit - okay dude's asking me to open it and make sure the "internal ribbon cables didn't come loose during transit" and check my connections, gonna have to look that one up
 
aw, man - Genesis Knight, that's a beautiful collection there. Centy and Pier too! so, so jelly.

kinda sad cause i got all the cables in for my 32X today, and was excited to hook it up but its messed up; Kolibri gets audio only, star wars & virtua racing get sound & picture but there's lots of graphics clearly missing...shit's unplayable. ive cleaned it (shit was mad dirty! like 3 q-tips) so i dont know what else to do here, contacting the seller on ebay now.

edit - okay dude's asking me to open it and make sure the "internal ribbon cables didn't come loose during transit" and check my connections, gonna have to look that one up

Thanks!

That happens to like, 80% of 32X users. SUPER common issue. Ribbon cables are probably it.
 

Teknoman

Member
Plugged my headphones in my Genesis for the first time (well, with good headphones); sounds fantastic, but I couldn't seem to make the shielding/interference/static problem go away.
Now if only I had some of the games that I lost all those years ago; I'm down to just NBA Jam and Sonic 1 right now. Maybe I'll order a few and make a weeknd of it.
And better video than RF *.*

Aw gotta get some composite at least.
 
ah, that's a bit reassuring - is it easily fixable? i gotta go dig up some links, wanna make sure im not opening anything i can't easily close.

Yeah, I can't point you to a link in particular but check out sega-16.com and search the forums in the 32X subboard or the Tech Aid subboard. It's been brought up there before.
 

cory64

Member
Aw gotta get some composite at least.

I have a composite cable for my 32x but I don't have a system link cable and I don't think the damn thing works anyway.
It's a pretty dire situation so I might as well just start over from scratch.
 
Go get Monster World IV on XBLA or PSN.

It JUST came out in The States last year, localized by Sega!

It's on Wii Virtual Console as well! And yes, buy it. It's outstanding.

I have a composite cable for my 32x but I don't have a system link cable and I don't think the damn thing works anyway.
It's a pretty dire situation so I might as well just start over from scratch.
There's really no way to know if it works or not unless you have a system link cable to hook it to the Genesis...
 
Awesome stuff Genesis Knight. But no Web Of Fire for the 32x (probably for the best = ( )

Also, who here has played Haunting starring Polterguy? I finally went through some of my un-played games, and man, its really fun. I just like seeing all the stuff i can do in the houses.

On the opposite end, Sword Of Sodan may be the worst Genesis game i have played yet.
 
There's part of me that wants to unload my entire collection of like 50+ loose carts because they're loose.

These collections of complete in box really makes me wish I would've built up a collection properly instead of just to play the games.

Genesis is my childhood. I was a proud owner of the tower of terror, not quite like the pictures a few threads up, but I did the genesis gen1+segacd gen1+32x+Knuckles+Sonic3.

Truth is everything's been collecting dust in an old cardboard box for years, and I long got rid of the CD/32X components to a friend who wanted it. Now it seems the only purpose they serve is just to "collect" and loose carts are apparently far from collectible unless they're one of 5 top tier titles.
 

IrishNinja

Member
Crash - you can find replacement cases & print out covers, i did that for a number of my recent additions. there's still too many loose, so ive been looking high & low to get this thing on the cheap...if any of you can find it open online & for a better price, lemme know!

also if you sell your looseys in buy/sell thread you might still get some $ for em.

Also, who here has played Haunting starring Polterguy? I finally went through some of my un-played games, and man, its really fun. I just like seeing all the stuff i can do in the houses.

On the opposite end, Sword Of Sodan may be the worst Genesis game i have played yet.

man, Polterguy's on my list of stuff to get back, fun rental in the day. and yes, my buddy got Sword of Sodan because, like Pit Fighter, the ad showed these huge/arcade-sized characters that we didn't get in the full game, and having booted it up a little while back, i can confirm it's atrociousness.
 
Crash - you can find replacement cases & print out covers, i did that for a number of my recent additions. there's still too many loose, so ive been looking high & low to get this thing on the cheap...if any of you can find it open online & for a better price, lemme know!

I actually own one of those for my small amount of loose carts. Luckily, i have managed to get a lot of the cases over time. Its nice, so it doesn't mess with my closest full of games (which i need to make another shelfs-worth of room)
 

televator

Member
Did a little shopping for some games today, and here's some of the old SEGA stuff I grabbed:

Now the Alex Kid game isn't technically Genesis related, I get that, but you might be asking "Televator, why did you buy a shitty racing game for the Genesis?" To which I respond "F*ck you, good sir. F*ck you." I'm a fan of Senna, Honda, and vidya games... and this glorious box art covers it all. Oh, my goodness I just love looking at it. LOL!


Anyway, moving along..... ITS MORPHING TIME, BITCH!


TOWER OF POWER ASSEMBLED. :D
 

IrishNinja

Member
man, i spent years before finishing Miracle World, so Lost Stars comes out and its like...this is easy! health/time meters and shit...why is Alex crying so much?! i ended up liking High Tech World more even though it's clearly not an Alex Kidd game, because i had no other point-and-click-like adventure titles, i think everyone else hated that one.
 

televator

Member
man, i spent years before finishing Miracle World, so Lost Stars comes out and its like...this is easy! health/time meters and shit...why is Alex crying so much?! i ended up liking High Tech World more even though it's clearly not an Alex Kidd game, because i had no other point-and-click-like adventure titles, i think everyone else hated that one.

Yeah I've got High Tech World as well. Unfortunately, the AK games have to get inline on my backlog...that seems to be growing faster than I can play through. :(
 

IrishNinja

Member
argggghhhh

checked out a few things like this video, so i took my 32X apart, cleaned both slots (holy crap the bottom one's dirty), cleaned the ribbon cable ends but they were clean anyway...reassembled, checked connections and...audio for all 3 games, no video.

thought it might be the switchbox, but i moved it to a port i know works (reserved for the saturn), same results. it was only $20 but ive got all these games i wanna play for it, kind've a bummer after said incident with the saturn. only good news there is im waiting for the post office to open to pick that one back up, gonna go contact this ebay seller again though.

i was wondering if my genesis' mod might interfere, but i can't see how - its only saved me from having to get the mixing cable or whatever to plug into the headphone jack. i'm using model 2 AV cables for it (black falcon/others said this was the way to go, despite my model 1 genny), really don't know what's going wrong here.
 

stewy

Member
Monaco GP II shitty? I don't think so. That game was brilliant.

The first game was the one that actually sold me on the Genesis. Until then I'd been holding out for the SNES.
 
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