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[baphomet]

I just region modded my model 2 genesis and put a blue power led in there for the hell of it. Does anyone know any games that will have Japanese text or anything when I play them with the Japanese region on? I'm pretty sure streets of rage 3 will, but I'm not sure of any others.

 

[IrishNinja]

So, i just got Nobunaga's Ambition from IrishNinja. Super pumped to play it later on tonight. Hopefully he enjoys his Kangaroo adventures in SOR3!

awesome man, glad it got there safe! heading outta town tomorrow but i got something to look forward to when i get back, never did beat part 3. buddy of mine on here has the japanese one, looking forward to playing that & seeing the differences in action too.

 

[Teknoman]

Is there really a quality difference between official model 1 AV cables and third party? Because at this rate, I just need some replacement cables.

 

[IrishNinja]

it's hard to say...i'm using a 3rd party S-video cable and it looks great by me. then again i'm using a 3rd party cable for my saturn and there's fuzz on the image which kinda sucks...at least they're cheap enough where you can experiment?

 

[sixteen-bit]

Starfox tech demo on Genesis

 

[operon]

Just started my megadrive collection, bought one in a car boot sale, last year but start using it more lately. Never had one when they were out just got to play on my cousin. Sonic, truxton, streets of rage and golden axe were the games I got playing back then. At the moment I have sonic 1, 2 Truxton, Jimmy white snooker, world cup italia 90, crackdown and Jordan v Bird. So I have a few more to get

 

[sixteen-bit]

Is there really a quality difference between official model 1 AV cables and third party? Because at this rate, I just need some replacement cables.

Genesis composite video output is notoriously awful no matter what cables you're using.
If you want good video quality from a Genesis, buy an RGB cable.
Alternatively, though the Genesis doesn't do S-Video natively, Micomsoft made an RGB -> S-Video transcoder. That thing is really expensive and hard to come by now though.

 

[Gagaman]

My collection as of the moment:

Yes I have 3 Sonic 3s.

I got a good chunk of my Japanese Mega Drive games (including Musha) in a large bundle with a modded Asian Mega Drive 1. Best Ebay auction I ever managed to win.

 

[gryz]

Is there really a quality difference between official model 1 AV cables and third party? Because at this rate, I just need some replacement cables.

PC engine av cable also works

 

[Teknoman]

Genesis composite video output is notoriously awful no matter what cables you're using.
If you want good video quality from a Genesis, buy an RGB cable.
Alternatively, though the Genesis doesn't do S-Video natively, Micomsoft made an RGB -> S-Video transcoder. That thing is really expensive and hard to come by now though.

Looking into it, i'd basically have to get an Scart cable, and then something to convert that into component (In U.S., so no SCART input on my tv). Why are scart cables and component cables both referred to as RGB anyway?

 

[sixteen-bit]

Component isn't RGB. It's YPbPr.

 

[powermastergamer]

This was my Megadrive 2 in South Africa. Probably almost 20 years ago? My mom got me the console and SANIC 3, God damn that was an amazing system. Used to only get bootleg cartridges in SA, only found out later that pretty much the entire games industry here was bootlegged because of international sanctions against Apartheid.

My Earthworm Jim cartridge was a fake (lol).

The console:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mega_Drive_2ja.jpg

This was it's controller:

http://segaretro.org/images/thumb/3/30/Pad_MD_Gen3.jpg/260px-Pad_MD_Gen3.jpg

Couple of guys in town had Megadrive 2 consoles as well, I remember borrowing Jungle Strike (Fucking mind blowing), and Lion King. I had Sonic 3 and EWJ, only way later would a buddy of mine get Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3.

 

[MrCunningham]

Starfox tech demo on Genesis

That's actually pretty incredible given that this is stock hardware, even though the framerate drops down to like 5FPS in some parts. I wonder how possible it would be to get the whole first level playable from start to finish?

 

[djtiesto]

SoR 1's OST is the best of the trilogy. Hands down. In gameplay, though, it can't compare to 2.

I agree, I like how the music is more house/90's R&B influenced than SOR2 and its more ravey anthems or SOR3's controversial soundtrack.

 

[c0de]

Mega Drive was my 2nd console, after Master System, which was superior to NES graphically.
I had a lot of games for Mega Drive but best to me was Street Fighter 2: CE because of the 6-Button-Pad and Landstalker which I only could finish on an emulator thanks to save-states

 

[gryz]

I agree, I like how the music is more house/90's R&B influenced than SOR2 and its more ravey anthems or SOR3's controversial soundtrack.

huh? sor2 seems pretty rave to me, one of the songs is pretty much a direct reference to a couple Shamen songs

 

[ascii42]

huh? sor2 seems pretty rave to me, one of the songs is pretty much a direct reference to a couple Shamen songs

...isn't that what he said?

 

[Soodanim]

huh? sor2 seems pretty rave to me, one of the songs is pretty much a direct reference to a couple Shamen songs

This has blown my mind all over again. I knew SoR2 wasn't completely original. I listened to Ebeneezer Goode the other week. It's not until now when you actually say it that it's painfully clear. It just makes SoR2 more amazing though, somehow.

 

[gryz]

This has blown my mind all over again. I knew SoR2 wasn't completely original. I listened to Ebeneezer Goode the other week. It's not until now when you actually say it that it's painfully clear. It just makes SoR2 more amazing though, somehow.

my mind is blown that other people know these shamen songs

...isn't that what he said?

yeah i guess so... but sor2 is still pretty housey/r&b style too

 

[Teknoman]

Component isn't RGB. It's YPbPr.

But it would be possible to use an RGB -> Component converter? The only inputs I have on my Wega are composite, component, and S-video.

I could just get the system modded with an S-video port and call it a day lol.

 

[Loki]

Speaking of Genny soundtracks, ThunderForce 3 had an amazing soundtrack. Some highlights:

Water Stage Track

Twin Vulcan Boss Fight

 

[Kainazzo]

But it would be possible to use an RGB -> Component converter? The only inputs I have on my Wega are composite, component, and S-video.

Sure! Just grab the appropriate SCART cable, plug it into something like this, then plug the component end into your TV.

You can usually grab SCART cables for cheap in the US from here, but they appear to be out at the moment. No doubt they'll be back in a few days. If you find them somewhere else, make sure they're wired for Japanese SCART, not European.

 

[Teknoman]

I might just go this route anyway, since that'll stop some of the port switching I have to do.

So far I guess I could go:

NES, PC engine DUO: Composite (PC engine looks pretty clean using this anyway imo)
SNES, N64: S-video (especially since i've already got S-video cables for em lol)
Genesis: SCART -> Component (gotta wait for the retro_console shop owner to come back from vacation or whatever)

And that just leaves Saturn...which I want to just use S-video after that RGB scare in the other thread.

 

[Shadow Hog]

You just need to be certain whether you're getting SCART or JP21. They're different connectors, despite being the same shape - kinda like how component and composite share connectors, but are hardly the same kind of signal.

 

[Teknoman]

You just need to be certain whether you're getting SCART or JP21. They're different connectors, despite being the same shape - kinda like how component and composite share connectors, but are hardly the same kind of signal.

In that case, maybe it would be better just to get Genesis and Saturn SCART cables from that ebay store, and then just use both through component?

lol i'd have so much connected to my Genesis after this. SCART -> converter -> component cables. And then headphone port -> audio input splitter for stereo.

Going to jump to the Saturn side for more questions on connected that via SCART.

 

[added_time]

I had a SNES and a Genesis growing up and this thread reminds me that I loved the SNES a million times better than the Genesis.

There were some amazing games on the Genesis though. I loved General Chaos, Comix Zone and Gunstar Heroes.

 

[smbu2000]

Picked up a new Mega CD game, Popful Mail. No spine card with it, but I only spent about 1,000 yen shipped for it, so not bad.

 

[Teknoman]

Thunder Force IV was no slouch either:

Desert

Space Colony

Sky line

Composer needs to return to gaming.

Oh and for good measure:

V vs IV Rynex ship duel

More shoot em ups need to have small ship duels just like high action games need to have more same size enemy duels.

 

[Teknoman]

So aside from Pulseman, Alien Soldier, Bare Knuckle 3, Golden Axe 3, what are some japanese mega drive games that either never made it over and are worth playing, or are just cheaper than english versions (excluding RPGs or games with alot of text crucial to the game).

 

[BocoDragon]

^ I just got SCART cables for my Genesis and damn.... what an improvement. I think it's safe to say that 99% of North Americans have never seen the Genesis done justice, because of how amazingly shit its composite output is.

I am running it through an XRGB mini, which is AMAZING, but even if I were using an SD CRT, I could never ever go back to anything less than RGB.

So aside from Pulseman, Alien Soldier, Bare Knuckle 3, Golden Axe 3, what are some japanese mega drive games that either never made it over and are worth playing, or are just cheaper than english versions (excluding RPGs or games with alot of text crucial to the game).

Japanese Sonic 1 has more parallaxing clouds and a few other effects.. ! It's basically the "final version" of the game that was the one ported to all systems forever after.

Megaton, I know.

 

[Teknoman]

^ I just got SCART cables for my Genesis and damn.... what an improvement. I think it's safe to say that 99% of North Americans have never seen the Genesis done justice, because of how amazingly shit its composite output is.

I am running it through an XRGB mini, which is AMAZING, but even if I were using an SD CRT, I could never ever go back to anything less than RGB.

I'm probably going to go ahead and order some + that RGB to component converter Monday.

 

[BocoDragon]

I'm probably going to go ahead and order some + that RGB to component converter Monday.

Yeah I'd say go for it! As long as the converter doesn't degrade the signal, I'm sure it will be excellent.

Really got to recommend the XRGB mini, though. I know its hundreds of dollars, but its so worth it. I can't believe the image I'm seeing, it's Sega heaven.

Either that, or a professional CRT monitor with direct RGB input (although it's possible the component converter on a normal CRT TV will come close).

 

[Teknoman]

So far, most of the recommendations here and in the Saturn thread turned up this (if not wanting to spend too much):

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-SCART-R...=US_Audio_Cables_Adapters&hash=item337dfa167b

Saw this as well: http://www.ebay.com/itm/RGB-SCART-A...=US_Video_Cables_Adapters&hash=item3367e332e9

but i'm betting its a case of you get what you pay for there.

 

[BocoDragon]

So far, most of the recommendations here and in the Saturn thread turned up this (if not wanting to spend too much):

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-SCART-R...=US_Audio_Cables_Adapters&hash=item337dfa167b

Saw this as well: http://www.ebay.com/itm/RGB-SCART-A...=US_Video_Cables_Adapters&hash=item3367e332e9

but i'm betting its a case of you get what you pay for there.

Probably.. hmm..

But notice that the expensive one is a scaler? I don't believe you need it scaled (only if you're using it on HDTV).

Unless of course, TVs can't accept 240P images through component?

Might be some research to be done. I seem to remember watching YouTube videos about this sort of thing recently.

 

[Shadow Hog]

Unless of course, TVs can't accept 240P images through component?

A great many don't. Best way to check is to break out Genesis Plus on a Homebrewed Wii over component and set the scaling options to "Original". No image means 240p component isn't supported.

I think there's even a way to force 240p over component on a normal Wii, although I forget the specifics.

 

[BocoDragon]

A great many don't. Best way to check is to break out Genesis Plus on a Homebrewed Wii over component and set the scaling options to "Original". No image means 240p component isn't supported.

I think there's even a way to force 240p over component on a normal Wii, although I forget the specifics.

Hmm.. I'd be interested in figuring that Wii trick out. I have the XRGB mini and VC games look wrong compared with original games because its in 480p.

 

[Teknoman]

Probably.. hmm..

But notice that the expensive one is a scaler? I don't believe you need it scaled (only if you're using it on HDTV).

Unless of course, TVs can't accept 240P images through component?

Might be some research to be done. I seem to remember watching YouTube videos about this sort of thing recently.

Yeah, especially since i'd only be connecting it to an SD CRT (Ssony Wega) with component inputs.

 

[Teknoman]

Apparently you can also test 240p over component by connecting a ps3 by component, then seeing if ps1 games or ICO will display.

 

[Quackula]

Picked up a new Mega CD game, Popful Mail. No spine card with it, but I only spent about 1,000 yen shipped for it, so not bad.

I've got the US version of this. It's a fantastic game!

 

[Gunstarheroes]

So aside from Pulseman, Alien Soldier, Bare Knuckle 3, Golden Axe 3, what are some japanese mega drive games that either never made it over and are worth playing, or are just cheaper than english versions (excluding RPGs or games with alot of text crucial to the game).

Mega Man: The Wily Wars, Yu Yu Hakusho (Made By Treasure). Only stuff i can think of.

Edit: At fear of being crucified, i've debated, and decided to post something. I've been working on some videos, all about the Sega Genesis/32x/and CD. I have 3 episodes i am working on at once (Panic, the 2 Arcade Classics for 32x ((Space Harrier and After Burner)), and Haunting Starring Poulterguy). I'm trying to get all 3 together so i can release them weekly or bi-weekly, in the hopes of making it a regular thing. However, i made a test video, about Eternal Champions. The audio is rough, and i have made vast improvements to video and audio quality. I was just curious, as enthusiasts, what i can do, content-wise, to make it better, or what works already. I'm trying to not veer into "Video Reviewer" territory and just keep it about the game itself. Anyways: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieh0Bq2ZsZQ

 

[Teknoman]

Cool, ill check it out, is yu yu hakusho a beat em up ala guardian heroes or standard fighter?

Edit: going to do the 240p ps2/ps1 test...hopefully with positive results.

 

[Mzo]

It's a two-plane fighting game and it's kind of hard to find and kind of really bad.

I only own it because I love Treasure.

 

[gryz]

just picked up Lightening Force , Elemental Master for MD, Virtua Racing Genesis and Final Zone (as well as a bunch of non genesis sega shit) after hitting up the local game stores yesterday.

IMO don't give into this SCART/RGB converter BS, just get a decent small CRT for 20 bucks and play it the way it was meant to be played.

 

[Gunstarheroes]

It's a two-plane fighting game and it's kind of hard to find and kind of really bad.

I only own it because I love Treasure.

I own it as well, but i find it fun for what it was. Sure, it doesn't hold up as well now, but i still had fun doing some 4-player matches with friends on a Saturday night. Certainly not one of Treasure's best games, but i dug it.

 

[IrishNinja]

damn, didnt even know treasure did Yu Yu Hakusho...and gunstarheroes, ill check out your videos soon man! ive finished generation 16 and chronsega (chronturbo was interesting too), was looking for more sega stuff on YT.

also, just won dick tracy with the sega genesis poster intact for $4! ebay comes through sometimes.

im here in argentina for a few more days, then chile before heading back - i know its more brazil that got the sega-love & own versions of games, but im checking stores and swap shops just in case theres anything along the way! stumbled into an old arcade with Wonder Boy (never even saw this one in coin-op before) along with daytona 2 and a nice MAME box, heh

 

[A Black Falcon]

So aside from Pulseman, Alien Soldier, Bare Knuckle 3, Golden Axe 3, what are some japanese mega drive games that either never made it over and are worth playing, or are just cheaper than english versions (excluding RPGs or games with alot of text crucial to the game).

There are a bunch of import-only shmups, but some are expensive... but yeah, even though it's extremely expensive, Eliminate Down is a fantastic game!

 

[Teknoman]

just picked up Lightening Force , Elemental Master for MD, Virtua Racing Genesis and Final Zone (as well as a bunch of non genesis sega shit) after hitting up the local game stores yesterday.

IMO don't give into this SCART/RGB converter BS, just get a decent small CRT for 20 bucks and play it the way it was meant to be played.

Honestly after going right from snes with svideo to genesis with composite, i saw an immediate difference, so now im kinda on the bandwagon. Similar to not...being able to play current gen stuff on non hd tvs. Honestly, the converter is like 5 bucks, so if my tv can support 240p over component just fine...probably be out of like 20 bucks total.

 

[Teknoman]

There are a bunch of import-only shmups, but some are expensive... but yeah, even though it's extremely expensive, Eliminate Down is a fantastic game!

Always thought it was funny how building a genesis and snes library are completely opposite in the process. Imports are usually more expensive on genesis than their english counterparts and boxed copies of english titles are pretty cheap.

 

[A Black Falcon]

Always thought it was funny how building a genesis and snes library are completely opposite in the process. Imports are usually more expensive on genesis than their english counterparts and boxed copies of english titles are pretty cheap.

That's probably because the Megadrive finished a distant third in Japan that generation, so there isn't nearly as much stuff out there for it as there is for the Super Famicom or PC Engine... while in the US, while the Genesis had a lot of fans (the SNES and Genesis pretty much fought to to a draw in the Americas), perhaps in part because Sega doesn't make consoles anymore while Nintendo does, its stuff is a bit under-rated, so most Genesis games aren't too expensive, while SNES prices keep going up and up.

 

[Teknoman]

That's probably because the Megadrive finished a distant third in Japan that generation, so there isn't nearly as much stuff out there for it as there is for the Super Famicom or PC Engine... while in the US, while the Genesis had a lot of fans (the SNES and Genesis pretty much fought to to a draw in the Americas), perhaps in part because Sega doesn't make consoles anymore while Nintendo does, its stuff is a bit under-rated, so most Genesis games aren't too expensive, while SNES prices keep going up and up.

Ah I thought the Megadrive was in a top position along with SNES then. Definitely going to go after Gleylancer, Eliminate Down, and others at some point.

Oh also just tried playing PS1 games on my PS2 connected to the Wega via component, and it displays just fine. So with that, i'm guessing I wont need a scaler, and just use a simple SCART to component converter.

Then again I cant tell how the other end looks...so it might just be best to go with what everyone else knows that works.