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Senna, a Netflix series.

marquimvfs

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Finished the show right now. It's definitely worth the watch. I mean, the show is definitely on the same caliper as movies as Rush or Ford vs Ferrari, speaking in production quality terms.

What differs them is mainly the cast, as several abroad folks will miss big (BIG) names, and the not so big focus on the races part. Not that the races were poorly done, they used real cars, and real circuits with doubles racing real laps and, for some scenes, they faithfully recreated the circuits using Unreal Engine. But races just deserved some more screen time.

Even if most of the cast is unknown overseas, the characterization is fenomenal. Everybody who used to watch Formula 1 will immediately relate to the face of Prost, Xuxa is also amazingly done by the actress, and the Senna actor did a great job representing him, it was a pleasant surprise.

If you are still having second thoughts if it's worth your time, watch the making of first, as the story itself is not secret to anybody, it will help you decide if you wanna see through or not. Also, if you're worried that Netflix ruined the show somehow with some politics takes, worry no more. There's just one character that was fictionalized, a journalist that is played by Kaya Scodelario. It wasn't done in bad taste, as it's just like the Chernobyl's Ulana Khomyuk, a single character written to embody several people who, somehow, were present on the main character's life.
 
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Gp1

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4 episodes in. It's very good. The story awesome per se and the art direction/color pallet is great but the script and the acting still has a bit of "tackyness"of Brazilian novelas/rede Globo productions.

For any F1/racing fan, or anyone mildly interested in sports it's a must. But the 2010's documentary still is better.

I said it on the sequel topics. I really want that see some non-brazilian director to explore the theme without the direct involvement of Senna's family/state on the script and with a Hollywood budget like the F1's Brad Pitt movie or Rush.
 
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marquimvfs

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4 episodes in. It's is very good, the art direction/color pallet is great but the script and the acting still has a bit of the Brazilian novelas/rede Globo productions.

For any F1, racing fan, or mildly interested in sports it's a must. But the 2010's documentary still is better.

I said it on the sequel topics. I really want that see some non-brazilian director to explore the theme without the direct involvement of Senna's family/state on the script and with a Hollywood budget like the F1's Brad Pitt movie or Rush.
Yeah, it cannot be stresses enough how great the documentary is, definitely the better media product about him so far.

I think the show is already on the big boys table speaking about production values, that became clear watching the making off of the show. And I also think that the brazilian TV soul isn't a bad thing per se, it's just associated to bad products that commonly fill our TVs in. Brazilian TV production and acting is, in fact, good, but we suffer from lazy scripts and bad stories most of the time on our inhouse products, that got our acting and "brazilian way" tainted for our own audience.

Regarding Senna family, I agree, they should let go a little bit, they fight so hard to keep him as this immaculate figure that it's actually impossible to tell stories that everyone hadn't heard a million times before.
 
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Gp1

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I also think that the brazilian TV soul isn't a bad thing per se, it's just associated to bad products that commonly fill our TVs in. Brazilian TV production and acting is, in fact, good, but we suffer from lazy scripts and bad stories most of the time on our inhouse products, that got our acting and "brazilian way" tainted for our own audience.

There's a difference between what I'm talking about and something like Elite Squad 1/2 and City of god e.g.
 

marquimvfs

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There's a difference between what I'm talking about and something like Elite Squad 1/2 and City of god e.g.
Sure, I get what you're saying. But, aside from his immediate family characters, that I agree that were tremendously novela like, what else gave you that feel?
 

Gp1

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....Disclaimer right now I'm watching the last episode...

Almost every sequence showing Brazil before and specially after the second title.

And i have a bunch of low points like switching the frickin Jackie Stewart interview which is crucial to understand Senna's personality (he's basically telling a 3 times world champion legend of the past to fuck itself and its kind off and not be a hypocritical asshole with...) with a take of Kaya Scodelario's character (...telling something to some random fictitious reporter), the way that they filmed Interlagos 91, etc.

I don't know, i think that by 89/91 Senna wasn't the wonderboy like the series shows. By this time he was already a tough veteran and the biggest F1 star with 2 world titles.

It sound like what a family that lost a childhood parent would like to show off.

Aside from that, they skipped the qualifying lap in Monaco 88, they skipped Silverstone's 93 GP... basically they skipped two of the greatest displays of raw skill in Formula 1 history to show some random ass novela scene.

They time jumped the entire 93 season which is crucial to understand Senna's motivation in both 93 and 94.

And these points, the 2010 documentary nails it.

Again, it smells like too much interference from Senna's state.
 
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marquimvfs

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....Disclaimer right now I'm watching the last episode...

Almost every sequence showing Brazil before and specially after the second title.

And i have a bunch of low points like switching the frickin Jackie Stewart interview which is crucial to understand Senna's personality (he's basically telling a 3 times world champion legend of the past to fuck itself and its kind off and not be a hypocritical asshole with...) with a take of Kaya Scodelario's character (...telling something to some random fictitious reporter), the way that they filmed Interlagos 91, etc.

I don't know, i think that by 89/91 Senna wasn't the wonderboy like the series shows. By this time he was already a tough veteran and the biggest F1 star with 2 world titles.

It sound like what a family that lost a childhood parent would like to show off.

Aside from that, they skipped the qualifying lap in Monaco 88, they skipped Silverstone's 93 GP... basically they skipped two of the greatest displays of raw skill in Formula 1 history to show some random ass novela scene.

They time jumped the entire 93 season which is crucial to understand Senna's motivation in both 93 and 94.

And these points, the 2010 documentary nails it.

Again, it smells like too much interference from Senna's state.
Fair points, I agree with them all. And hell yeah, the show deserved some more race time, it could be used to show him in monaco 88, and 92/93 seasons.
 
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