arkhamguy123
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So I got on rewatching the Raimi trilogy and then it goaded me to just say fuck it and rewatch all of Spiderman on film just to see what I think. My opinion were potentially outdated as it had been YEARS since I had actually sat down to watch them all and not just see clips on YouTube or whatever. I feel like that happens a lot with media and art. Games, movies, books, music, tv. You get older and some stuff you like less some stuff you like more etc
For context I'd say im a light fan of the character. Batman has definitely 100% been my guy since I entered adulthood but I still like Spiderman alright I guess. I was a huuuuge fan as a kid growing up so there's some childhood bias
Anyways I really loved 1 and 2 and got to 3 and holy fuck its way worse than I remembered. Ive always been a 3 defender saying its not that bad but jokes on me its that bad and then some. The cringe is unbearable. The movie is a mess and edited like shit. Poor Raimi. the studio interference is palpable from every frame. Then we get to the Andrew Garfield movie and the first one is alright. Just, fine. TASM2 I think is slightly over-hated. I don't think its like Catwoman/Batman and Robin level bad. My issue with it is again, its edited so poorly you can tell there's copious studio interference and it leaves the movie just feeling like a husk. The dialogue is also pretty awful. Not that Spiderman movies sport Tarantino level dialogue I guess but its especially bad here. Barley even functional. All in all TASM2 whether it was Webbs vision or not is rendered a pretty bad film thanks to Sony.
We arrive at the mcu and homecoming is probably the best since Raimi's Spiderman 2 but is held back by just being a disposable mcu product. Ya know, it doesn't have any umpth of panache what so ever and the ""director"" is you typical MCU *insert name here* director who can be a stand in facade for the VFX artist and executives who really direct the mcu movies. Speaking of CGI we've arrived at a level of soulless where we can't even have a real practical spider suit anymore so in every shot its cgi'd over despite having filmed it for real. (I counted a total of 2 shots in all of FFH where Tom is actually in the suit, and About 3-5 in all of NWH) In fact all the cgi in the holland movies are pretty awful generally speaking so it all feels non tactile and you can't connect to any of it. Especially NWH.
In fact, I realized Far From Home and No Way Home are actually kind of dogshit. I never really liked them in the first place but the rewatch here as im older clenched it for me. These, to me, are terrible movies. These are the most base, lowest common denominator visionless corporate products. Designed to appeal to the most simple of normies and casuals. These feel truly just... empty? Not even like incompetently bad like Superman 4 or something, because Disney and Sony know what they're doing, they know they don't put in effort. These movies are the poster boy of the generic modern blockbuster. Completely bereft of even an iota of artistry or even effort. And I love plenty of "product" movies like fast and furious 5 and 7, transformers 1 and 3. But these don't even succeed at being entertaining. I mean how could they be? They seem like they're aimed at an audience no older than 10, and are filled with all the usual terribly unfunny elementary school jokes and made in post production cgi weightless action. They are truly awful films to me.
So there we have it, after Tobeys second movie we have 3 which is laughably bad, TASM1 which is merely okay, TASM2 which is bad, homecoming which is passable but mediocre, and then FFH and NWH which are complete slop for the masses. Am I tripping? Perhaps I'm alone on this but maybe some of you out there feel similar. I like Spiderman and actually wish he had better live action exposure like my boy Batman. Also disclaimer, if any of you love these movies and are offended this is all merely my subjective opinion
TLDR: Spiderman movies majorly kind of suck post Spider-Man 2 2004, anyone else agree?
For context I'd say im a light fan of the character. Batman has definitely 100% been my guy since I entered adulthood but I still like Spiderman alright I guess. I was a huuuuge fan as a kid growing up so there's some childhood bias
Anyways I really loved 1 and 2 and got to 3 and holy fuck its way worse than I remembered. Ive always been a 3 defender saying its not that bad but jokes on me its that bad and then some. The cringe is unbearable. The movie is a mess and edited like shit. Poor Raimi. the studio interference is palpable from every frame. Then we get to the Andrew Garfield movie and the first one is alright. Just, fine. TASM2 I think is slightly over-hated. I don't think its like Catwoman/Batman and Robin level bad. My issue with it is again, its edited so poorly you can tell there's copious studio interference and it leaves the movie just feeling like a husk. The dialogue is also pretty awful. Not that Spiderman movies sport Tarantino level dialogue I guess but its especially bad here. Barley even functional. All in all TASM2 whether it was Webbs vision or not is rendered a pretty bad film thanks to Sony.
We arrive at the mcu and homecoming is probably the best since Raimi's Spiderman 2 but is held back by just being a disposable mcu product. Ya know, it doesn't have any umpth of panache what so ever and the ""director"" is you typical MCU *insert name here* director who can be a stand in facade for the VFX artist and executives who really direct the mcu movies. Speaking of CGI we've arrived at a level of soulless where we can't even have a real practical spider suit anymore so in every shot its cgi'd over despite having filmed it for real. (I counted a total of 2 shots in all of FFH where Tom is actually in the suit, and About 3-5 in all of NWH) In fact all the cgi in the holland movies are pretty awful generally speaking so it all feels non tactile and you can't connect to any of it. Especially NWH.
In fact, I realized Far From Home and No Way Home are actually kind of dogshit. I never really liked them in the first place but the rewatch here as im older clenched it for me. These, to me, are terrible movies. These are the most base, lowest common denominator visionless corporate products. Designed to appeal to the most simple of normies and casuals. These feel truly just... empty? Not even like incompetently bad like Superman 4 or something, because Disney and Sony know what they're doing, they know they don't put in effort. These movies are the poster boy of the generic modern blockbuster. Completely bereft of even an iota of artistry or even effort. And I love plenty of "product" movies like fast and furious 5 and 7, transformers 1 and 3. But these don't even succeed at being entertaining. I mean how could they be? They seem like they're aimed at an audience no older than 10, and are filled with all the usual terribly unfunny elementary school jokes and made in post production cgi weightless action. They are truly awful films to me.
So there we have it, after Tobeys second movie we have 3 which is laughably bad, TASM1 which is merely okay, TASM2 which is bad, homecoming which is passable but mediocre, and then FFH and NWH which are complete slop for the masses. Am I tripping? Perhaps I'm alone on this but maybe some of you out there feel similar. I like Spiderman and actually wish he had better live action exposure like my boy Batman. Also disclaimer, if any of you love these movies and are offended this is all merely my subjective opinion
TLDR: Spiderman movies majorly kind of suck post Spider-Man 2 2004, anyone else agree?
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