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Spider-man 2 first day Steam CCU peaked at 18k
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It's in front of games that have been on the list for months and havent come out yet.Oh no, what a terrible sales performance. How will Sony ever recover from this:
Mr Moose
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Some of those aren't strictly SP games (though I play them solo).that's just not true.
peak concurrent player numbers on Steam
from the top 11 more than half are single player games
Palworld, Elden Ring and I think BG3?
Physiognomonics
Member
People just know it's a DEI product. It's really sad for the vast majority of people who worked on this game and didn't have an ideological agenda.It's not a terrible result, but compared to the first game, it's not good.
Peak concurrent players is almost 3 times lower. But the most concerning part is that the first game has a Steam user Score of 95%, while Spider-man 2 is at 56%.
And this is a game with a license costing alone 100 million dollars! This should have been the game showing the investors their diversifying strategy was working! This is a way worse disaster than Concord. They won't be able to erase Spider-man from the surface of Earth like they did with Concord.
Mr Moose
Member
The prices Disney charge is fucking stupid.
IAmAnAgnostic
Member
Another Sony failure, one in an ever growing list now.
Deserves Concord numbers, but it is Spider Man so this is as low as that Mega Brand can possibly go, impressive achievement in the negative direction by Sony as typical now.
Complete DEI fest, terrible writing and a literally insane budget which is not sustainable at all short or long term. Add it to the Common Chud victory in the second Year of the Chud 2025.
Deserves Concord numbers, but it is Spider Man so this is as low as that Mega Brand can possibly go, impressive achievement in the negative direction by Sony as typical now.
Complete DEI fest, terrible writing and a literally insane budget which is not sustainable at all short or long term. Add it to the Common Chud victory in the second Year of the Chud 2025.
winjer
Member
Sony already owns the rights for Spider-Man IP. So they are not wasting money.
They would be wasting money, if they weren't making game and movies about it.
Still, this game probably cost around 200 million dollars. So that is a lot of money to get back.
I agree that pushing hard on politics is always a bad decision, as it alienates a chunk of the potential public.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Probably $200M? The Insomniac leak says $315M lol.
winjer
Member
Even more than I thought.
No wonder sony pushed this game so soon onto PC. They really need to make some money back.
Goalus
Member
Why is it concerning?It's not a terrible result, but compared to the first game, it's not good.
Peak concurrent players is almost 3 times lower. But the most concerning part is that the first game has a Steam user Score of 95%, while Spider-man 2 is at 56%.
It would be concerning if it had a score above 60%.
Nintendo's Witch
Member
lol
Mr Moose
Member
They only own the rights to theatrical releases.
winjer
Member
I investigated a bit, and you are right. It's Activision who owns the videogame's rights for Spider-man. And Sony has to license it from them.
That makes things even worse for Sony.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Probably why the game’s budget is so high. The licensing fees alone must be in the tens of millions.
Mr Moose
Member
I think Activision lost the game rights a few years back, and now Disney is back in charge of it.
Edit: 2017 apparently.
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winjer
Member
If that is true, then Sony is probably paying 18-20% to Disney for using Spider-man in videogames.
That is probably a lot of money.
yamaci17
Member
there are other factors why it won't catch up to the 1st game on steam
steam practically destroyed regional pricing in most regions. and for few regions that still have regional pricing, it is not as useful as it used to be. there would be times where games would cost nearly half in certain regions. this allowed more players from those regions to enjoy the game at more reasonable prices.
the game is also released on Epic and we don't have numbers for that platform. funny enough, regional pricing is much better there. many of my friends, as a result, prefer buying the game there now. it is just what it is
so it is possible that the money they earned from 46k CCU was less than what they earn with 20k CCU now. just a guess.
steam practically destroyed regional pricing in most regions. and for few regions that still have regional pricing, it is not as useful as it used to be. there would be times where games would cost nearly half in certain regions. this allowed more players from those regions to enjoy the game at more reasonable prices.
the game is also released on Epic and we don't have numbers for that platform. funny enough, regional pricing is much better there. many of my friends, as a result, prefer buying the game there now. it is just what it is
so it is possible that the money they earned from 46k CCU was less than what they earn with 20k CCU now. just a guess.
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poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
Dont we have the exact amount from the leaks. I remember it being an outrageous amount.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Same review score as starfield. Both good games.
NeoIkaruGAF
Gold Member
I don’t see the causation in here.
PC gamers who don’t like the flagship PS games won’t rush out to buy a PS5 to play those games anyway, right?
Unless you’re implying that by not having those games on PC, PC gamers should be scammed into buying a console they don’t need to play games they won’t like?
On the other hand, why would a PS5 owner wait a full year or more to play a game on PC that they can enjoy today?
If anything, the PC crowd not being interested in PS’s flagship games means PS sales aren’t in danger.
For Sony, it’s win-win. They get the money day 1 from the PS stans, they sell a few more copies on PC with minimal effort, AND they squeeze the console audience twice or thrice with remasters and update patches.
MarkyG
Member
Dear god, that's awful! Why on earth do "artists" do this to their work? I honestly don't understand it. It's like they want to make any female look ugly on purpose so that hotblooded young men don't lust after them. It's so bizarre to me. Can't even say it's to resemble the real life counterparts, because it doesn't!
Some people are weird.
Topher
Identifies as young
I agree on RPGs. Would help if we had more examples of single player action/adventure games of the same type launching day one. There is Indiana Jones and Hellblade 2, but those are on Game Pass which muddies the waters quite a bit. I don't know. Feel like we don't have enough hard data.
ElFenomeno
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FF7 Rebirth's CCU doesn't seem so low now lol.
Kotaro
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It's not a terrible result, but compared to the first game, it's not good.
Peak concurrent players is almost 3 times lower. But the most concerning part is that the first game has a Steam user Score of 95%, while Spider-man 2 is at 56%.
good, no one wants to play Sony woke trash
phant0m
Member
Seems like everyone is here is celebrating it doing poorly. You guys will get what you want I suppose
Lunareste
Member
I dont get why people are such rabid Sony fanboys.
Make good game = get good sales
Make woke game = get bad sales
In SpiderMan 2's case the year between PS5 and PC release gave gamers plenty of time to discuss the reused assets and unaltered gameplay...and the screenshots of MJ speak for themselves. People don't like ugly characters, even more so when there's an agenda behind it.
Make good game = get good sales
Make woke game = get bad sales
In SpiderMan 2's case the year between PS5 and PC release gave gamers plenty of time to discuss the reused assets and unaltered gameplay...and the screenshots of MJ speak for themselves. People don't like ugly characters, even more so when there's an agenda behind it.
Sept Terrion Of Nothing
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It seems they intentionally and willingly butchered her face. I really want to know: Why? Why is it that you want to make that decision? What is the purpose here? What do you gain by doing this?
You really need to be mentally unstable to confirm this new model or even to propose to use it. I don't and probably won't understand these minds for the rest of my life.
RoboFu
One of the green rats
Cause she was too pretty. Can't make women too pretty because then they are objectified, makes ugly women feel bad, and makes money.
xenosys
Member
Oh no, what a terrible sales performance. How will Sony ever recover from this:
A game from a popular IP and franchise that had no pre-orders is going to jump to the top on release week with an initial raft of sales. This isn't particularly impressive.
ValiantInstance
Member
Means nothing. Modern Warfare Remastered topped sales charts on Steam for a week because of a mod. 25,000 people bought it.Oh no, what a terrible sales performance. How will Sony ever recover from this:
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xenosys
Member
Peak CCU's don't always tell the full story.
Here are VII Rebirth's sales estimates after 8 DAYS :
Here are Metaphor's after 6 WEEKS :
They ARE comparable. In fact, I'd be 99% certain that Rebirth's sales performance after a week was probably a lot stronger than Metaphor's. Given Metaphor wasn't available on something like Gamepass, and wasn't a late port, so Steam was the only way a PC player could play it D1, Rebirth's performance is a lot more impressive.
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BennyBlanco
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Peak CCU's don't always tell the full story.
Here are VII Rebirth's sales estimates after 8 DAYS :
Here are Metaphor's after 6 WEEKS :
They ARE comparable. In fact, I'd be 99% certain that Rebirth's sales performance after a week was probably a lot stronger than Metaphor's.
These metrics used to be pretty accurate before Valve made everyone’s library private by default. Now they use pretty dubious methods to get the estimates.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
These metrics are wildly off and when I say wildly, I mean sometimes by a factor of 10.Peak CCU's don't always tell the full story.
Here are VII Rebirth's sales estimates after 8 DAYS :
Here are Metaphor's after 6 WEEKS :
They ARE comparable. In fact, I'd be 99% certain that Rebirth's sales performance after a week was probably a lot stronger than Metaphor's. Given Metaphor wasn't available on something like Gamepass, and wasn't a late port, so Steam was the only way a PC player could play it D1, Rebirth's performance is a lot more impressive.
Gameplay Gods Bless
Member
No literally you.
xenosys
Member
Yeah, I'm not saying these sales figures are accurate.
If each tracker here is using the same methodology to arrive at their estimates, then their relative performances are comparable, which is the point I was responding to.
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You said action adventures did well on PC and proceeded to list a bunch of rpgs as an example because there is action in those games. It's like me saying point and clicks are one of the most popular genres because plenty of games where you point and click are popular. Fortnite, apex legends, counter strike, valorant.
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LectureMaster
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I think it's probably coming down to studio culture - like revealed from Concord info. Some very vocal activists heavily pushed for this, and the rest would be morally inferior if they didn't align themselves with the forced DEI. I don't think everyone agreed with the change, but they probably just had to, to keep their jobs.
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27,775, not even 5,000 more people decided to play it at the same time in the 24 hours (ish) since my post.it's already at 23 thousand player today so I'm going to say it exceeds 40,000 later, based on absolutely nothing
Bad game or has Spider-Man's popularity waned?
LectureMaster
Member
Well, 28,189, that's it.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Should be 0. The game is completely broken. After it completely crashed my PC twice, I asked for a refund.Well, 28,189, that's it.