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Square Enix cautious about flooding the market with HD-2D games

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Square Enix has provided a fairly steady stream of HD-2D games since 2018, but the company is also a bit wary about flooding the market with those types of titles.

We already know that after the recent release of Dragon Quest 3 HD-2D Remake, Dragon Quest 1 and 2 are set to receive the same treatment next year. Producer Masaaki Hayasaka told Bloomberg that he’d also “love to consider” remakes for other entries as well. However, that will depend on reactions to Dragon Quest 3, and Square Enix doesn’t want to go overboard with HD-2D games at once.
Hayasaka said the following in an interview with Bloomberg:
“If we were to release too many games in succession, that would lead to people being bored of those games. On the flipside, if there’s too much of a span between launches, that can also lead to the series not seeming as vibrant and robust anymore. It’s a sensitive topic. It’s something that even my supervisors are constantly unsure and mulling over.”
 

StereoVsn

Gold Member
Don't flood the market, but have a steady cadence.
Yep, the issue for SE is that they have been just throwing a lot of games out without giving them room to breath.

On the other hand a proper 2D-HD remake for Chrono Trigger, FFVI or Xenogears would do quite well.

Let’s be honest, stuff like Saga 2, that latest Mana game or Live a Live are very niche, especially considering the prices and other competition.
 

Mibu no ookami

Demoted Member® Pro™
You could easily release them in around the timeframes of their original releases if not a hair faster. I think the pricing matters more than the release timing.
 

adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Don't flood it, but do release Star Ocean 2R on Xbox please.

Yeah, of all the recent announcements, I'm surprised this wasn't one of them. Especially as the last flagship game was already on Xbox.

Star Ocean 2R is probably the best RPG Square has released in a long while, along with Octopath.
 
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cireza

Member
Yeah, of all the recent announcements, I'm surprised this wasn't one of them. Especially as the last flagship game was already on Xbox.

Star Ocean 2R is probably the best RPG Square has released in a long while, along with Octopath.
Would double-dip in a heartbeat.
 

Lunarorbit

Member
Yep, the issue for SE is that they have been just throwing a lot of games out without giving them room to breath.

On the other hand a proper 2D-HD remake for Chrono Trigger, FFVI or Xenogears would do quite well.

Let’s be honest, stuff like Saga 2, that latest Mana game or Live a Live are very niche, especially considering the prices and other competition.
Yeah it was insane how many games they put out 2 years ago back to back. All rpgs and jammed in a 2 month window.

It's like when ea released titanfall and battlefield at the same time to compete against COD
 

WoJ

Member
I actually agree with the general sentiment. But I guess the question is what is too much too soon? I'd say a couple releases a year seems reasonable.
 

DeVeAn

Member
What they really need to worry about is allowing the quality to drop on these HD-2D games as they come out. Keep up the quality and people will buy.
 
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T4keD0wN

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Theyve failed spectacularly at that, ive had to put SE as a whole on the ignore list because theyve bombarded my steam store with hundreds of games that fall into this category.
It felt like half of all games on the store were published by SE.
 
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Kokoloko85

Member
Dont worry about flooding the market. Which genre isnt flooded?

Just do a good enough job and that will be fine. No1 will complain.

But that doesnt mean make all the older games into HD-2D remakes.

Id rather have a Choro Trigger Remake, look like Dragon Quest 11 and FF6 remake look like FF7remake.

I would love to see a Final Fantasy 4 and 5 HD-2D remakes though
 

MagiusNecros

Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
If they do direct sequel they have to bring original Bravely Default and Second to Switch.
That would be acceptable. Bravely kind of in a weird place. You have Default and Second on 3DS. Defunct Mobile game that was Japan only. BD2 on multiple platforms. All over the place.

But you know they really could just do what Bravely Second did and just summarize the events of both games with a Prologue panoramic. I really liked the still images supplemented with the music box sounding theme of Eternity's Moment. So good.
 

iQuasarLV

Member
Five IPs in seven years, and they have to be cautious. Fuck right off SE.
HD-2D releases
Octopath IP: 2018, 2020, 2023
Dragon Quest IP: 2024, 2025
Star Ocean: 2023
Triangle Strategy: 2022
Live A Live: 2022

Since when has Square ever been cautious about exploiting nostalgia to get a quick cash out? PSP / 3DS / Mobile / Gameboy etc; out of all that how many times have they released the same games multiple times?
I mean FF1 has 13 re-releases,
13!
Now they start exercising caution, please.
 

nial

Member
Five IPs in seven years, and they have to be cautious. Fuck right off SE.
HD-2D releases
Octopath IP: 2018, 2020, 2023
Dragon Quest IP: 2024, 2025
Star Ocean: 2023
Triangle Strategy: 2022
Live A Live: 2022

Since when has Square ever been cautious about exploiting nostalgia to get a quick cash out? PSP / 3DS / Mobile / Gameboy etc; out of all that how many times have they released the same games multiple times?
I mean FF1 has 13 re-releases,
13!
Now they start exercising caution, please.
Don't flood it, but do release Star Ocean 2R on Xbox please.
Not HD-2D.
 

MagiusNecros

Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
My thoughts exactly. I don't think modern S-E has it in them to remake either of those games in 3D/modern graphics, so HD-2D is the best possible scenario for them.
They would pull a Chrono Cross and completely butcher the soundtrack. If they just gave Chrono Trigger to Gemdrops and just do what they did with Star Ocean it would be fantastic. Square however tends to make a lot of really dumb decisions.

TintoConCasera TintoConCasera Word. No censorship or no buy. Pretty up the graphics and touch nothing else.
 
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TintoConCasera

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I'd rather they don't touch the classics. Honestly imo Chrono Trigger still looks, sounds and plays phenomenal today.

Maybe instead make remakes for lesser known titles such as Secret of Evermore or Treasure of the Rudras.
 
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Pejo

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I'd rather they don't touch the classics. Honestly imo Chrono Trigger still looks, sounds and plays phenomenal today.

Maybe instead make remakes for lesser known titles such as Secret of Evermore or Treasure of the Rudras.
Don't forget the Enix side too. Soul Blazer, Lufia (particularly 2), Terranigma, would all be great in HD-2D. Also I wouldn't mind if they took the ugly as sin Actraiser remake from a few years ago and kept the added gameplay systems, but changed the absolutely disgusting art style to HD-2D and re-released it. There's a lot of mileage to be had from the HD-2D aesthetic as long as they don't phone it in.
 

MagiusNecros

Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Don't forget the Enix side too. Soul Blazer, Lufia (particularly 2), Terranigma, would all be great in HD-2D. Also I wouldn't mind if they took the ugly as sin Actraiser remake from a few years ago and kept the added gameplay systems, but changed the absolutely disgusting art style to HD-2D and re-released it. There's a lot of mileage to be had from the HD-2D aesthetic as long as they don't phone it in.
Lufia probably dead after the NDS revival attempt and how the story was altered a bit.

Would love if they brought back Threads of Fate or if Matsuno did another Vagrant Story kind of game.
 
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