These are your own impressions, right?
Interesting. I'll see upon playing the game once I get it in the mail.
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Star Fox Zero & Guard - Review Thread
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Interesting. I'll see upon playing the game once I get it in the mail.
It's developed by Platinum. How is a 78 for W101 with positive and negative reviews that different from Zero's 70ish with positive and negative reviews? If you took the time to actually read you'd see that Bayo is the outlier. Platinum typically gets around 70-80 for their games.
brandonh83
Banned
Sounds fine to me and I never expected it to get bombastic scores. It seems to be getting mostly good scores at least.
Reviews are pretty much what I expected.
Not really. The flying sections are great but they're a small part of the game.
Not really. The flying sections are great but they're a small part of the game.
LordOcidax
Member
72 in opencritics with 28 reviews...
This, basically. I enjoyed Kid Icarus so much, even despite all the control complaints, mainly because it's a game that felt fresh, strange, and really interesting. All of that was enough to help me want to tackle the controls and get good at what it wanted me to do.
Star Fox Zero isn't really that. It's just some beats from 64 with some new levels sprinkled here and there. Of the new things, I'd say it's a 50/50 good to bad ratio.
TheSlySoul
Member
See I can agree with this, you can repurpose the controller to have tech based on something like the PS4 which IMO does motion control better than the gamepad.
Relying on just gyro is outdated when you got things like Vive out in the open.
DecoReturns
Member
You forgot Kingdom Hearts.
And a personal favorite of mine, Star Fox Adventures. Yes, I liked it.
What's OpenCritic?
Mr. Smiley
Member
Just wanna say I've enjoyed your impressions on the game since way before pre-release. I've been going back and forth on this title but I think my views are gonna mirror yours the most. Thanks for being open minded about the whole thing.
Surprisingly, in terms of presentation Star Fox Adventures is light-years ahead of its successors.
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Deleted member 126221
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Lots of 7-to-10 reviews, yet it's supposed to be a disaster? Is there a reward of some sort for irrationally hating on this game?
It's not game of the year material and, without surprise, it's a niche game that doesn't appeal to everyone, but so far it looks to be far from a disaster. I really don't get why this game is so hated on.
It's not game of the year material and, without surprise, it's a niche game that doesn't appeal to everyone, but so far it looks to be far from a disaster. I really don't get why this game is so hated on.
Star Fox Zero looking more like Ty the Tasmanian Tiger-tier mediocre instead of like, Tak and the Power of Juju mediocre.
It's yet another not very visually appealing Star Fox sequel/prequel/spinoff post SF 64 with some annoying mechanic shoehorned in for the majority of the game that totally hampers the rest of the game.
I would have openly accepted 'yet another Star Fox game' sure but I really dislike gyroscope aiming and I hate that it was forced for this one game.
Sylverstone14
Member
Well, we all wanted that instead of SF Adventures. So I'll take that as a "get it now if want to ignore the last 14 years of mangled Star Fox history" recommendation.
Neoleo2143
Member
People aren't hating on the game here that's just hyperbole.
LordOcidax
Member
A better metacritics.
A review aggregator like Metacritic but generally tailored to games and a lot more transparent about overall averages. They count more publications and have more data.
http://opencritic.com/faq
7/10 in game reviewing means mediocre instead of meaning decent-to-good as you'd think it would
Needs an average of at least 8 to be considered good, sadly.
The only scary thing to me is that I agreed with Dan. When I heard him mention this stuff on the bombcast, I broke out into a sweat.
Nevertheless, I want people to enjoy this game more than I did. For all I know i'm just a jaded old person now, and other people can find the enjoyment in a game like this. I really think there's a solid core group of people on this board who will enjoy what this game is offering. I think there's a wider group of people who would like it too, but 60 dollars is way too steep of a price for them.
LOL! Or they get scored lower because "they dont use the gamepad" or "why is this exclusive" or "motion lol" or something else. Come on, this goes both ways.
LegendofLex
Member
It's a competitor to Metacritic that weighs all reviews equally unlike MC so some people here prefer it.
Nemesis_
Member
Yeah, I like when they let you use whatever control scheme you want. It's something they really have over the other consoles. But I just feel like the design of Zero wouldn't work with a pointer. You need to see in the cockpit and external to play certain sections. Maybe that's just my opinion. Bit it just wouldn't work otherwise.
brandonh83
Banned
Oh... oh that's just par for the course. 10/10 or gtfo, sleepless dev hours wasted
Wait for the review thread for UC4 when a site gives the game an 8 or, hell, even a 9! People will declare the game a Naugthy God failure and wish Amy Hennig back.
This is a bad explanation!
This is a better explanation!
I'll use OpenCirtic more. Looks slick. Is it just for games? What about film?
GhostTrick
Banned
http://www.metacritic.com/game/wii-u/star-fox-zero
Let's not claim it's reviewing well. It doesn't. It's not because it's a niche game at all.
Here some niche shooters:
http://www.metacritic.com/game/3ds/star-fox-64-3d
http://www.metacritic.com/game/wii/sin-punishment-star-successor
http://www.metacritic.com/game/3ds/kid-icarus-uprising
SkyTurnsRed
Banned
I think Dan's quote is being taken out of context. What I think he means is that the genre has evolved since 2002 and this game doesn't feel like it has evolved with it. For example, games like Sin and Punishment 2 exist. Feels like a very modern take on the Star Fox template. A lot of those games have aged well since 2002 - in his eyes, Star Fox hasn't.
Edit: also want to point out that 2002 was stacked. jesus.
"Theres fantastic boss battles. Theres on-foot segments (kind of) that dont ruin the games pacing. Theres a wide variety of vehicles that can transform on-the-fly."
There is boss battles? There is on foot segments? There is vehicles?
If you can't write properly, your review shouldn't be included in the mix. Garbage.
There is boss battles? There is on foot segments? There is vehicles?
If you can't write properly, your review shouldn't be included in the mix. Garbage.
Neoleo2143
Member
I'm probably going to do a write up on UC4 but if this happens I'm going to be damn disappointed.
Also NateDrake care to share your impressions?
OrbitalBeard
Member
That thread is going to be insane.
DecoReturns
Member
Looks like you have your pitchforks ready/s
King Gilga
Member
It was also light years behind in fun compared to assault and 64.
TheSlySoul
Member
It could be, I have no place to judge until I get my hands on it.
Overall I am not a fan of gyro but like regular motion controls.
It could be like Skyward Sword where maybe only a portion will have issues adapting. Skyward Sword was a mixed bag for me since sometimes it worked perfect and others it crapped the bed.
Sir_Crocodile
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Smooth Operator
Member
Yup, future topic of the year.
Devilgunman
Member
Maybe it's actually better than Star Fox Zero.
I didn't interpret it like this actually. And he's right. Rodea the Sky Soldier, Sin and Punishment 2, Resident Evil chronicles, Kid Icarus Uprising. There are way better rail shooters out there.
You'll get a Star Fox Adventures port for NX and you will like it.
nvm, misread the post
DecoReturns
Member
I figured that too, but I sometimes feel that restrictions games had back then made them better then some current games today.
It'll probably be like that. I can understand because I really enjoyed Skyward Sword's motion controls, but it was a huge turnoff for a lot of people.
Star Fox's controls didn't do anything for me, but plenty of reviewers have had no issues adapting.
My problems lie with the fact that the game feels really, really budget. It just feels barebones and the motion controls, even if you get used to them, don't bring a whole lot to the experience to make it exciting again.
There's only a handful of good rail-shooting levels in this game. About 3 or 4 that I genuinely liked. The rest of the levels are all range mode or some kind of gyro-copter/walker variant. I would have loved if this game had more of the rail-shooting levels as they weren't half bad. It's kind of like Assault all over again, in some ways. There's just not enough core StarFox in there, and the stuff that is there doesn't even feel that fresh.
While I hold KIU in immensely high regard, its rail shooter portions are worse than anything in Star Successor.
The flying portions alone would not make for a very good rail shooter.