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‘Star Trek’ Origin Story Movie Will Be Set Decades Before 2009 Film

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Paramount Pictures is ready to boldly go (again).

After rumors circulated earlier this year, Paramount has officially announced a new “Star Trek” prequel film, this time taking place decades before the original 2009 “Star Trek” film. “Andor” director Toby Haynes will direct from a script by Seth Grahame-Smith (who is also writing another hotly touted CinemaCon title – the third “Now You See Me” film). J.J. Abrams is returning to produce.

We've already had
- First Contact
- Enterprise
- Random episodes of various shows
- The 2009 film series.

How many "origin stories" do we need? I wouldn't mind some good post-voyager shows.

 

[AJUMP23]

Lame

 

[Mossybrew]

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

It's been a long time...getting from there to here.

IDGAF as long as it isn't cape**** like the JJ Abrams films were and it isn't NuTrek like the STD and onwards shows are.

 

[efyu_lemonardo]

Star Trek is increasingly becoming outdated as far as sci fi goes. Some of its technology is quite obviously going to arrive much sooner than it predicted (AI and cybernetic augmentation for example, and probably a holodeck equivalent as well), while other aspects (warp drives, molecular reconstitution) remain firmly in the "magic" category. And that's without even getting into the fact that the real milky way galaxy is probably not as full of human-like intelligent life as once thought.

 

[Forsythia]

Another fucking prequel. No one is asking for this. We already have Enterprise and Discovery (). Give us something after Picard (and no, not like Discovery )

 

[Darkmakaimura]

Why can't Star Trek move on and it's always a prequel? Enterprise was great but we've had so many prequels after that like Discovery and Strange New Worlds.

I want them to move beyond the TNG/DS9/Voyager era. Picard did it but we need more.

 

[efyu_lemonardo]

Just give us more seasons of the Expanse

 

[SJRB]

 

[jason10mm]

Star Trek is increasingly becoming outdated as far as sci fi goes. Some of its technology is quite obviously going to arrive much sooner than it predicted (AI and cybernetic augmentation for example, and probably a holodeck equivalent as well), while other aspects (warp drives, molecular reconstitution) remain firmly in the "magic" category. And that's without even getting into the fact that the real milky way galaxy is probably not as full of human-like intelligent life as once thought.

This is why they do kinda need to revamp the whole thing. Either just go cold turkey (i.e. none of this "multiverse'/"parallel universe" bullshit) and keep the philosophical principles but refresh the tech involved or move so far away from Federation centered Trek that it may as well be the same thing. Like a bunch of Orion pirates fucking around far from Federation space so if/when the Enterprise shows up its a novel thing.

 

[Lord Panda]

Abrams ... Le Sigh.

 

[Trunx81]

How many "origin stories" do we need? I wouldn't mind some good post-voyager shows.

We already know what will happen: Picard transforms into a robot. The burn. The Burnham. A lot of crying. The end.

 

[Superkewl]

ffs, they simply cannot stop destroying star trek.

 

[PuppetMaster]

 

[ReBurn]

I enjoyed the first couple of seasons of Enterprise. I don't really want this movie.

 

[Kilau]

 

[Husky]

Why? As OP pointed out, we already had First Contact and Enterprise. I guess someone really thought their idea for the Kelvinverse was better. Star Trek really isn't the sort of thing where I hunger for backstories and expanded lore—please just land on a sentient planet that only eats space vegan food, or show me something weird and philosophical like a space philanthropist who shoplifts. Show me a planet where everyone stops moving when the red lights turn on, and resumes movement when the green lights turn on, but the Starfleet protagonists break the rules and have to sit in jail until someone tags them. Classic Trek adventures.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

when it comes to big superhero and space movies, I guess it's simply just more profitable and easier to rehash some kind of origins or prequel. Start over again. Look how many times Batman origins and Spiderman high school Peter Parker movies there are.

Some of them dont even get sequels. It just keeps cycling origins plots. Superman Brandon Routh then went to Man of Steel, and a 2025 is another reboot.

As crazy as it seems, if you look at all the Superman movies going back to the Christopher Reeves days, almost all of them involve Lex Luthor or Zod and gang. Same shit.

 

[gothmog]

ffs, they simply cannot stop destroying star trek.

It's been dead for over 20 years. We're just living in its corpse.

 

[Coconutt]

Wish they would stop giving us this slop and make a movie focused on the superior star trek, deep space 9.

 

[RickSanchez]

Just give us more seasons of the Expanse

i am still waiting for some sort of adaptation of the last 3 books. That was epic shit.

 

[jshackles]

Wish they would stop giving us this slop and make a movie focused on the superior star trek, deep space 9.

I'd love this too - but at this point too much time has passed, and they would have to re-cast all or most of the characters.

 

[Trilobit]

Don't let anyone working on STD get close to this movie. I'm so sick and tired of speeches and crying.

 

[Darkmakaimura]

I'd love this too - but at this point too much time has passed, and they would have to re-cast all or most of the characters.

They're all pretty old now and Rene Auberjonois and Aron Eisenberg have passed away.

 

[RagnarokIV]

Man, who even wants this weak ass shit?

 

[Darkmakaimura]

Man, who even wants this weak ass shit?

I don't know. I'm a huge Trekkie and I don't even care for this. I want to finally see the move beyond the '90s Star Trek shows like Picard did.

 

[AJUMP23]

Wouldn’t this be a story about people like magellan and drake and Livingston. Because star truck is about exploration and being pioneers essentially. Also negotiations. The prime directive is a commentary on how you should not interfere with “primitive” people.

 

[NecrosaroIII]

I wouldn't mind if they let Star Trek rest for twenty years personally. Revive it with something set 40 years after Voyager.

 

[XXL]

Can they just let Denis Villeneuve, Alex Garland or any director who actually knows how to actually build an interesting world direct a Star Trek movie?

Like seriously wtf.

JJ Abrams know how to make action scenes and that's it.

The issue is the action scenes are literally the least important part of Star Trek.

I don't give shit about watching 100 ships shooting at each other when the narrative fucking sucks.

 

[Lord Panda]

Spoiler

Not a meme. He uttered these very words in the interview:

 

[FunkMiller]

I'm never watching anything Star Trek again that Terry Matalas hasn't made. He's the only one worth a shit over there in terms of Star Trek story and character.

This news is just another piece of evidence in the Hollywood is creatively bankrupt storyline.

 

[CSJ]

I can only assume they are so creatively bankrupt they need to keep doing prequels because they don't know what to do to keep going forward.
The closest I ever got to the feeling of old trek was Orville Season 2, the first was too jokey and the third was too serious but in the middle, it was just right.

I'll still watch it because, well, if all I have to eat are potatoes that's what I'm gonna eat.

 

[Melon Husk]

A pre-prequel? Their obsession with near-future "Trek" is not my thing.

 

[Ballthyrm]

Star Trek is increasingly becoming outdated as far as sci fi goes. Some of its technology is quite obviously going to arrive much sooner than it predicted (AI and cybernetic augmentation for example, and probably a holodeck equivalent as well), while other aspects (warp drives, molecular reconstitution) remain firmly in the "magic" category. And that's without even getting into the fact that the real milky way galaxy is probably not as full of human-like intelligent life as once thought.

Star trek will never be outdated as it's really not about space or technology, or whatever gadget writers can come up with.

Some of the greatest star trek episodes feature none of that.

Give me the teamwork, the moral courage, the compassion and human decency. Qualities that are rarely seen nowadays in series and movies but are at the core of what makes star trek great.

Most of all give me the optimism for the future and that solutions are possible

 

[Kenpachii]

This means another star trek cast also. Not a fan the old cast was great.

Also it's time for star trek to start a new series after voyager, in the style of TNG.

 

[efyu_lemonardo]

Most of all give me the optimism for the future and that solutions are possible

This is the biggest reason why I think Star Trek is losing its relevance. I adore this core message but in order for it to powerfully resonate I think it needs to be based on a future that is scientifically plausible, which I think is no longer true for the original show's setting.

Other shows such as The Expanse and For All Mankind have picked up the baton in terms of showcasing moral courage and teamwork.

 

[DeafTourette]

This is the biggest reason why I think Star Trek is losing its relevance. I adore this core message but in order for it to powerfully resonate I think it needs to be based on a future that is scientifically plausible, which I think is no longer true for the original show's setting.

Other shows such as The Expanse and For All Mankind have picked up the baton in terms of showcasing moral courage and teamwork.

That's the thing... It IS scientifically possible.

Over half the tech in TOS, that most people back then thought was impossible, is commonplace now. Even Warp Drive is theoretically possible (it would actually be what cloaks a ship... No other tech needed). Pretty much everything is based on what's technologically possible in the relative near future and what's theoretically possible in Quantum or theoretical physics.

 

[Ballthyrm]

This is the biggest reason why I think Star Trek is losing its relevance. I adore this core message but in order for it to powerfully resonate I think it needs to be based on a future that is scientifically plausible, which I think is no longer true for the original show's setting.

Other shows such as The Expanse and For All Mankind have picked up the baton in terms of showcasing moral courage and teamwork.

Being scientifically plausible is the scenery though, that's what my point was. The Expanse works because its game of thrones in space, complex political characters with their own motivation working against one another , not because the ship are realistic, even if I grant you it's nice and great foundations for the story to lean on.

The problem for modern star trek is that they are waging wars on battles that have already been won. There is no great questions being asked with the characters wrestling with the idea, like should Data have rights, stories that are pushing the overton window on upcoming technologies.

 

[near]

Spoiler

Not a meme. He uttered these very words in the interview:

Believe it or not, he did something for Star Trek. He gave it a new audience. I also did not like Star Trek before seeing he's 2009 film, then I came to appreciate the franchise.

 

[efyu_lemonardo]

That's the thing... It IS scientifically possible.

Over half the tech in TOS, that most people back then thought was impossible, is commonplace now. Even Warp Drive is theoretically possible (it would actually be what cloaks a ship... No other tech needed). Pretty much everything is based on what's technologically possible in the relative near future and what's theoretically possible in Quantum or theoretical physics.

I'm sorry but you're mistaken.
Like I said earlier in this thread: AGI, cybernetic augmentation, probably a holodeck equivalent - these will all arrive much sooner than Star Trek predicted.

But Warp Drive and molecular reconstitution both remain firmly in the "magic" category. What's more, the idea of a federation of physiologically similar alien races who all happen to be at very similar stages of development and exist in the same region of the Milky Way is nothing but 1960s wishful thinking. And these three are at the basis of what makes Star Trek.

But there are plenty of ways to tell inspiring stories which deliver a similarly optimistic message, while operating on much more plausible assumptions.

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

Mr. Spock must be here or not deal.

He's the only character I know

 

[March Climber]

Believe it or not, he did something for Star Trek. He gave it a new audience. I also did not like Star Trek before seeing he's 2009 film, then I came to appreciate the franchise.

I'm also part of the audience who wasn't a fan until his movie. I think a huge part of it highly depended on when someone was born, because I was a little kid when TNG came out and I didn't know that the main draw of the series was it's philosophical concepts, dialogue, science, etc.

So back then I felt it was extremely boring compared to other sci-fi media like Star Wars, Terminator, Alien, Fifth Element, etc.

 

[Hudo]

Enough with the origin stuff. Go further into the future. I remember at least one episode in Star Trek: Voyager where a Federation ship from the far future could not only travel through space but also through time. Also had another version of the Prime Directive, that also concerned not fucking up timelines by creating paradoxes and stuff. A series exploring this would be cool, I think

Edit: But then again, I don't think Hollywood has writers capable of actually writing good stuff with this premise. So... well... Maybe going the origin route is the safer bet.

 

[efyu_lemonardo]

Being scientifically plausible is the scenery though, that's what my point was. The Expanse works because its game of thrones in space, complex political characters with their own motivation working against one another , not because the ship are realistic, even if I grant you it's nice and great foundations for the story to lean on.

The problem for modern star trek is that they are waging wars on battles that have already been won. There is no great questions being asked with the characters wrestling with the idea, like should Data have rights, stories that are pushing the overton window on upcoming technologies.

One of the foundations of Star Trek is that for the most part humanity got its shit together and was able to create a united earth in which poverty and prejudice no longer existed.

This was made possible due to a sudden abundance of all essential resources and an end to all manufacturing and distribution bottlenecks, and also - I think - because the idea of joining a galactic multi-species society was so alluring to most humans, they were willing to put aside almost all other differences and embrace a new hierarchy.

How do you get the viewer to suspend their disbelief and embrace this concept if they don't assume technology can create such a premise in the not-too-distant future?

 

[Panajev2001a]

Enough with the origin stuff. Go further into the future. I remember at least one episode in Star Trek: Voyager where a Federation ship from the far future could not only travel through space but also through time. Also had another version of the Prime Directive, that also concerned to fucking up timelines by creating paradoxes and stuff. A series exploring this would be cool, I think

They are scared of venturing beyond the template that early Star Trek series and movies did. Look at Picard, took them 3 seasons to go from bad to horrible to decent/good-enough .