LectureMaster
Member
Don't wanna pirates to play the game ahead of you? No problem just pay extra 30 dollars!
This is beyond platforms, any publishers doing this should get called out.
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The "Advanced Access" must be one of the worst anti consumer practices. Avowed has been cracked while the game won't be unlocked for another 3 days
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Don't wanna pirates to play the game ahead of you? No problem just pay extra 30 dollars!
This is beyond platforms, any publishers doing this should get called out.
LectureMaster
Member
mayham2199
Member
The main thing I hate about it is you buy gamepass and with the promise of getting it day 1. Then MS says oh but if you pay more you get "early access". It's kind of BS IMO.
struggler_guts
Member
Eyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Bonfires Down
Member
They should have used Denuvo instead.
March Climber
Member
'Play it 3 days early' is also a roulette system, because you never know if the game you're buying into really needs that Day 1 patch.
Dorfdad
Gold Member
I agree but it’s free money! Hell we standardized people paying for betas! Back in my day they paid you to beta test games.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
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xrnzaaas
Member
Don't pay for it, it's that simple. So many games get released broken these days and you may actually profit from starting a few days (and patches) later. Cosmetics are often trash and by the time you get the promised story expansions it may already be on sale.
The only thing you have to pay attention to is to avoid youtube recommendations, because they don't give a crap about spoilers.
The only thing you have to pay attention to is to avoid youtube recommendations, because they don't give a crap about spoilers.
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KyoZz
Tag, you're it.
LectureMaster
Member
My man digging my posts be like:
If I had to take a lesser evil, I'll take Denuvo. But they could've just dropping both. Again this is beyond any specific platforms.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
People were playing Mass Effect 2 like a week early on modded 360s. RE8 cracked version is still the very best version of that game I think. Pirates winning is nothing new.
Tbh Ive done this for a few games. I bought the dumb expensive versions of diablo 4 and DB Sparking Zero because it just lined up with my day off.
Tbh Ive done this for a few games. I bought the dumb expensive versions of diablo 4 and DB Sparking Zero because it just lined up with my day off.
Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
I'm not following... I will go to my grave in agreement that early access (especially in an industry that regularly ships broken games / fucked servers) is bullshit, but.... what does this have to do with pirates or the game being cracked? Seems like a non sequitur.
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kevboard
Member
early access is better than preorder bonuses or any kind of MTX.
so no, it's the exact opposite. it's basically the least anti consumer practice out of any of these modern money making schemes by publishers.
an early access edition on its own would have basically no negative impact on people not buying it. meanwhile MTX are often things taken away from the game in order to be sold separately at insane prices, and preorder bonuses do the same with the added shiftiness of exploiting FOMO because the preorder bonus goes away once it's out.
if a game only upcharges for a few days of early access, people waiting for the full release don't miss out on anything. in fact they might have a better experience as some patches might come out, improving the game.
now sadly, many games stack these things... so many games don't just have an early access version, but also bundle preorder bonuses with it, and might have MTX on top of that... but the early access part is not the issue there at all.
so no, it's the exact opposite. it's basically the least anti consumer practice out of any of these modern money making schemes by publishers.
an early access edition on its own would have basically no negative impact on people not buying it. meanwhile MTX are often things taken away from the game in order to be sold separately at insane prices, and preorder bonuses do the same with the added shiftiness of exploiting FOMO because the preorder bonus goes away once it's out.
if a game only upcharges for a few days of early access, people waiting for the full release don't miss out on anything. in fact they might have a better experience as some patches might come out, improving the game.
now sadly, many games stack these things... so many games don't just have an early access version, but also bundle preorder bonuses with it, and might have MTX on top of that... but the early access part is not the issue there at all.
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Bumblebeetuna
Member
Shit gets pirated before release whether there is an early access period or not. Personally idc, seems like every publisher except Nintendo does it. If I have free time before release and want to play early I’ll pay, if not I just wait.
Hero of Spielberg
Member
Pirates play plenty of games before me, it’s never really concerned me tbh lol
MrTroubleMaker
Member
lol It probably runs better too.
owandeseis
Member
I'm "fine" with it, or i can understand it, since it helps them getting some extra revenue, while us waiters get the game for cheap with Gamepass, i bought advanced access for Starfield too (i regret it obviously and haven't touched the expansion that came with it, forgettable as fuck game).
Well honestly i also bought it for Diablo 4 and pretty much every Fifa since ages ago, it sucks but...
I don't like it, but i prefer this and companies taking some extra money from cosmetics and shit like that over forcing price increases on their games.
This said, MS also overprices their games a lot, 80€ for Doom, 70€ for Avowed?! In a world where KCD2, Cyberpunk, Elden RIng and BG3 released at 60€? yea fuck them
Well honestly i also bought it for Diablo 4 and pretty much every Fifa since ages ago, it sucks but...
I don't like it, but i prefer this and companies taking some extra money from cosmetics and shit like that over forcing price increases on their games.
This said, MS also overprices their games a lot, 80€ for Doom, 70€ for Avowed?! In a world where KCD2, Cyberpunk, Elden RIng and BG3 released at 60€? yea fuck them
ChorizoPicozo
Member
i think this kind of early access (especially for mid games) basically kill all "viral marketing" momentum.
In this case, I could see the pirate version hurting Game Pass "engagement". sales? I don't think so.
In this case, I could see the pirate version hurting Game Pass "engagement". sales? I don't think so.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
It's 'cracked' this early because it didn't ship with any DRM like Denuvo.
Don't think there's gonna be any performance overhead on this one.
Revolutionary
Member
People love to shit on Ubisoft but at least their subscription service includes the Premium/Ultimate/Early Access edition by default. Even the Ultimate tier of Game Pass only gives you access to the peasant editions of new releases, with an OPTION to upgrade to the premium at a discount. How generous.
That said, it's typically better to wait for actual launch anyway because of Day 1 patches. You're basically paying extra to play a buggier version of the game for a few days.
That said, it's typically better to wait for actual launch anyway because of Day 1 patches. You're basically paying extra to play a buggier version of the game for a few days.
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
I'd much rather have Advanced Access than DRM or Day One required patches.
ReyBrujo
Member
That's not the point.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
I think this early access thing is the worst thing ms has done. He’s created two classes of gamers. Rich and poor. Fuck him. I’m glad he will be remembered as the guy who killed Xbox.
Imagine if some big story focused game came out and people finished it in a weekend then spoiled it for everyone before they even got to play it.
Imagine if some big story focused game came out and people finished it in a weekend then spoiled it for everyone before they even got to play it.
People are playing it regardless, either by paying or pirating. Pirates playing the game a few days early changes nothing, they playing many games before others because they never pay for games. The practice of early access for full release is stupid and one that is born out of greed, but it fundamentally changes nothing just because the game is being pirated early.
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T_T
Member
It could also be illegal. Microsoft promises that its own games will be available on Game Pass Ultimate on Day 1, but they objectively are not. To get what was advertised, you have to pay them the equivalent of an extra month’s subscription. Maybe they think they can weasel their way out with a 'Well, technically...' argument, but with the right country, state, and judge, some false advertising charges could definitely be a possibility.
demigod
Member
Aren’t you a pc gamer? Do you even know what “early access” is?
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
I just can't bring myself to give a shit. I don't pay for this shit, and I move on with my life. If there's a market for unlocking a game 3 days early for $30 than so be it. Has literally nothing to do with piracy though lol
Loomy
Thinks Microaggressions are Real
I wouldn't call it anti consumer. This is up there with pre-ordering games. We have a choice to spend the money or not. It's not like there's an advantage to playing Avowed 5 days before everyone else.
People need to stop spending money on that stuff for it to stop. Based on what's happened with Avowed, MS will 100% do it again and people will 100% buy it early again. This game was always going to be pirated. It happening 5 days early makes 0 difference to MS.
People need to stop spending money on that stuff for it to stop. Based on what's happened with Avowed, MS will 100% do it again and people will 100% buy it early again. This game was always going to be pirated. It happening 5 days early makes 0 difference to MS.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
The whole thing is dumb. It’s not really Early Access either. They are delaying the game and you have to pay to access it at what would have been normal time before.
The other thing dumb about this is sometimes you don’t want extra few days of user reviews unless you feel extremely confident. This could easily backfire.
The other thing dumb about this is sometimes you don’t want extra few days of user reviews unless you feel extremely confident. This could easily backfire.
Kagoshima_Luke
Gold Member
What's funnier is "Day one on GamePass!"
Only, Day one is not really the release day, you have to pay extra to play on release.
Only, Day one is not really the release day, you have to pay extra to play on release.
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N30RYU
Member
Mmm maybe what this thread is all about? you give pirates more time to pirate it... so the game is pirated even before it's true release date and they even didn't need a leak or a broken street date?
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baphomet
Member
The true release date is when the game came out.
You're referring to the poor rental release date, which isn't for a few more days.
DownLikeBCPowder
Member
Wow...
Dacvak
No one shall be brought before our LORD David Bowie without the true and secret knowledge of the Photoshop. For in that time, so shall He appear.
FWIW, I tend to pirate games when they leak super early. I pirated TotK, Mario Wonder, Echoes of Wisdom, Metroid Prime Remastered…
But to your point, I also bought all of those games on day one. So I apparently do both. Can’t remember the last time I pirated a game that I didn’t actually buy. Maybe something in the early 2010s? But I often feel like the exception, not the rule.
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