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The Alien: Covenant sequel already has a title

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Though there is very little concrete information about Ridley Scott's upcoming Alien film (including whether or not we'll ever actually get to see it), we do have some insight into the project. The Covenant sequel currently goes by the title Alien: Awakening, and is set to begin where Covenant left off after David put the survivors of the Origae-6 into cryosleep. After that, everything is pretty much speculative.

Scott and screenwriter John Logan developed the Awakening script while Covenant was in production. Further confirming this is an article from Empire that shared some details about the plot. Reportedly, the film would feature the Engineers hunting down David and his Xenomorph embryos as they all head to LV-426, the planet where the crew of the Notromo land and find the Xenomorph eggs at the beginning of the original Alien.

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According Scott's chat with Fandango, Awakening would bring the series full circle. "There will be another one before we kind of literally and logically, clockwise, back into the rear back head of [the original] Alien," the director explained. Intriguingly, he then added, "It will go Prometheus, Awakening, Covenant." Whether that timeline represents a contradiction of Empire's plot summary — suggesting that Awakening will take place between Prometheus and Covenant — or was a simple slip of the tongue is hard to say.

Because Alien: Awakening is going to be a direct follow-up to Covenant, Michael Fassbender is inevitably going to have to reprise his role as David. Somehow, it appears that his character will be at least somewhat successful in bringing the Xenomorphs to LV-426 and getting rid of the Engineers, based on what we know from the beginning of Alien. Fortunately for Ridley Scott (and for fans), Fassbender has stated that he would be more than happy to continue with his role as David in future installments.

While promoting the X-Men movie Dark Phoenix in May of 2019, Fassbender was asked if he would be open to reprising his android character once more. "I'd love to," he replied. "I absolutely love working with Ridley [Scott], and it was a real sort of moment for me when I stepped on set in Prometheus and got to work with him. I love the character. It's a lot of fun. So yeah, I would definitely enjoy it."

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Michael Fassbender isn't the only actor who has expressed interest in returning to the Alien series. Katherine Waterston, the lead actress in Alien: Covenant, is also eager to reprise her role as Daniels for Alien: Awakening. In an interview with the Playlist, Waterston said, "I would be absolutely game to do more if they wanted to have me."

Considering that Daniels is the last character to interact with David in Covenant and the short film "Advent" hints that she has a more significant role to play in his plan, it is almost certain that Waterston would be called back to reprise her role in Awakening if the film progresses past the writing stage.

However, despite Waterston's willingness to return to the Alien franchise, she has expressed that she is relatively in the dark regarding the film's status. According to Waterston, "I'm always usually the last person to know even what's going on in my own career. So, [I'm] probably not the best person to ask. But I did get some sense of where they thought they might like to take it when we were shooting Covenant, and it sounded really interesting."
 

Doczu

Member
After Covenant i have no hope they will make a good Alien movie anymore, specifically after the trainwreck that David created the Xenomorph.
Hello Ridley you senile grandpa, the crashed ship on LV-426 was ancient, didn't look like it spent a few decades there. You forgot you put it itself there 40 years ago?
 
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Blond

Banned
It#s hard to be optimistic for that series anymore.

Truth. I loved Prometheus because I liked the idea of questioning creators and creation...then it went all out of the fucking window at the scene where David kills all of the remaining engineers; like Ridley trolled people like me and saying "ALL THOSE ANSWERS YOU WANTED ARE DEAD HERES ANOTHER ALIEN MOVIE!!!"
 
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belmarduk

Member
I'm shocked they're actually making another one.
Covenant had its moments but was pretty boring overall and did poorly at the box office.
 
Movies have forgotten that mystery is half the entertainment...in the age of fandom we need to know what color underwear darth vader wears and how xenomorphs take shits. Remember when the engineers were weird elephant alien looking astronomers that let us ponder how ancient and bizarre they might be...it was my favorite part of the original film. Nope..giant albino roided woody harrelsons an lets ruin all the mystery.

In space no one can hear you zzzzzzzz
 
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Scotty W

Banned
I guess I was the only one who liked Covenant.

If you want to see a great Fassbender film directed by Ridley Scott- watch The Counsellor. But be forewarned: it is a cult classic which has not yet achieved cult status.
 

MadAnon

Member
Wait... People expected these movies to be more monster, horror flicks with xenomorph as the main menace just like all the previous Alien movies or what? Otherwise I don't get this comparison with the originals. I think R. Scott was pretty clear what he wants to explore with these movies.

Not to say these are really great movies on their own but there's surprisingly broad audience that went into these prequeles with completely wrong expectations in the first place.
 
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Both Prometheus and Covenant were the epitome of style over substance, that actively undermine Alien and Aliens.

I have no doubt in my mind that Awakening would be a similarly ill conceived venture.
Bit OT, but I just recently started watching Farscape, and when Scorpius entered the room in one of those last episodes of season 1, I thought "Woah, whats Stilton Disco doing there?"...
 
I actually really liked Covenant.. some nice visuals and a merciful dropping of that arch Nordic character, I'll get my hands on this if it happens~
 

jdforge

Banned
Wait... People expected these movies to be more monster, horror flicks with xenomorph as the main menace just like all the previous Alien movies or what? Otherwise I don't get this comparison with the originals. I think R. Scott was pretty clear what he wants to explore with these movies.

Not to say these are really great movies on their own but there's surprisingly broad audience that went into these prequeles with completely wrong expectations in the first place.

Expecting a good Alien movie from Ridley Scott is what most hoped for and thought perfectly reasonable.

What we got from Ridley are 2 shit movies with the promise now of a 3rd shit movie.

Frankly, the franchise deserves much better.
 

Doczu

Member
Listen 3 is not bad
Prometheus is ok.

But it should have stopped after the first 2 and you know it.
Well i'd rather say they should have not subverted our expectations and killed of Hicks, Newt and make the story go a totally different direction that it was first drafted. In the state it got released - yeah, the franchise ended on Aliens, but i have a soft spot for this frankenstein monster.
 

Nymphae

Banned
I enjoyed every movie in the main series except for Resurrection, they've all been pretty decent watches imo, I can't stand some of these fans.

I really love a lot of the visuals in Prometheus and Covenant and I thought the stories were fun. Looking forward to the next.
 

nush

Member
I think Awakening has a chance to redeem Promefeus and Cobenant

They are never going to make another sequel, this will be mentioned and kicked around for a long time. Post COV 19 theater shutdown only the best of the best is ever going to get made. If not then it will have a streaming production cost budget.

Also, no sequel movie has EVER fucking retconned a previous shit movie into being good.

AND you can't even spell Covenant.
 
Covenant is Evil Dead with aliens. Very mean-spirited and funny movie.

The part where they blow up the ship trying to kill the baby alien is one of the most entertaining things I've seen in cinemas. Fucking hilarious all the way through and it just keeps escalating.
Then the flute scene, the "dude Gothic horror with aliens lmao" bits in the spooky castle, the egg scene, the ending - it's all flawless dark comedy.
If it had John Carpenter's name on the poster people would praise it for being a really good genre-bending flick, but they were expecting something else from Scott.
The proof is in the egg scene. It's a great example of dramatic irony - the audience knows exactly what's going to happen. Dramatic irony is a tool used to create suspense and humour, which is exactly what it does when Dr. Manhattan is checking out the egg he knows nothing about while David is acting like the Cheshire cat. However, modern audiences have been trained to be gratuitously critical to such a degree they forgot how dramatic irony works.
 

Spukc

always chasing the next thrill
Covenant is Evil Dead with aliens. Very mean-spirited and funny movie.

The part where they blow up the ship trying to kill the baby alien is one of the most entertaining things I've seen in cinemas. Fucking hilarious all the way through and it just keeps escalating.
Then the flute scene, the "dude Gothic horror with aliens lmao" bits in the spooky castle, the egg scene, the ending - it's all flawless dark comedy.
If it had John Carpenter's name on the poster people would praise it for being a really good genre-bending flick, but they were expecting something else from Scott.
The proof is in the egg scene. It's a great example of dramatic irony - the audience knows exactly what's going to happen. Dramatic irony is a tool used to create suspense and humour, which is exactly what it does when Dr. Manhattan is checking out the egg he knows nothing about while David is acting like the Cheshire cat. However, modern audiences have been trained to be gratuitously critical to such a degree they forgot how dramatic irony works.

that was so fucking stupid
 

nush

Member
Prometheus was one of the biggest let down's for a movie for me. I was so hyped for it before it came out.

But damn does the production design look so so fucking good! I don't own many 4K UHDs but I still brought that one. Just play it in the background when I'm doing something else. It's the modern cinematic equivalent of "Sticking your dick in crazy".
 

ManaByte

Gold Member
They are never going to make another sequel, this will be mentioned and kicked around for a long time. Post COV 19 theater shutdown only the best of the best is ever going to get made. If not then it will have a streaming production cost budget.

Also, no sequel movie has EVER fucking retconned a previous shit movie into being good.

AND you can't even spell Covenant.

Actually I believe the idea of a streaming series on something like Hulu has been tossed around. But yea a third movie isn’t going to happen.

The whole Prometheus series is stupid because it’s Ridley Scott trying to retcon Aliens. He always hated the idea of the queen and he’s trying to retcon the series back to his stupid idea of humans becoming the eggs.
 
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nush

Member
Actually I believe the idea of a streaming series on something like Hulu has been tossed around. But yea a third movie isn’t going to happen.

That could work, character driven "Red Dwarf few guys in a huge spaceship" and a rarely seen Alien for suspense and budget reasons. I'd watch that. But you just know they want pew pew facehugger sucks your face off every week because of audience attention spans now.
 
Ridley Scott went full George Lucas - we never needed to know where the derelict came from, and especially did not need to know that it was put there by humans. All the mystery of Alien is getting ruined for these awful schlock films.
 
Engineer hunts David. David turns engineer into Predator by virus. Predator race now made by David. Millions of fans take to the internet and point out the timeline doesn’t make sense. Scott says this is his personal Truth and is official lore.

If your going to continue to attempt to kill your liscense, that ain’t a bad way to do it. Read that as effective way to do it.
 
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Deleted member 1159

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Pretty much all they had to do with Prometheus was some basic ass origin story, OR (big stretch here) leave some stuff up to the imagination. Instead, like every attempt to do something with these old franchises, they try to cram a bunch of worthless shit nobody cares about into them.
 
I guess I was the only one who liked Covenant.

If you want to see a great Fassbender film directed by Ridley Scott- watch The Counsellor. But be forewarned: it is a cult classic which has not yet achieved cult status.
I enjoyed Covenant. Less as an Alien movie and more as a scifi movie.

Prometheus was also great to me.
 

Spaceman292

Banned
I guess I was the only one who liked Covenant.

If you want to see a great Fassbender film directed by Ridley Scott- watch The Counsellor. But be forewarned: it is a cult classic which has not yet achieved cult status.
The Councellor was stone cold shit. There's a reason no one remembers it. Even that Exodus movie with Batman in it was better.
 
I guess I kinda had hoped they just started over, or retconned and let Blomkamp do a true sequel to Aliens

I want to still get excited but I just don’t understand the point anymore. I didn’t hate Prometheus, at least it introduced something new, then Covenant basically said “haha fuck that” and here we are.
 
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Karma Jawa

Member
Ridley Scott went full George Lucas - we never needed to know where the derelict came from, and especially did not need to know that it was put there by humans. All the mystery of Alien is getting ruined for these awful schlock films.

Exactly. I don’t think Prometheus was awful but it would have been better if it had nothing to do with xenomorphs. Their mystery was part of their charm, and indeed what made them ‘alien’.
 

Doczu

Member
Exactly. I don’t think Prometheus was awful but it would have been better if it had nothing to do with xenomorphs. Their mystery was part of their charm, and indeed what made them ‘alien’.
Prometheus a good movie in its own, but they tried too hard to link it with Alien.
I could accept the fact that the goo was a bio-e gineerd weapon from a species they encountered hundreds (if not thousands) of years ago - not the other way around.
That would at least prevent the stupid retcon with David in Covenant.
 

Airola

Member
Has there ever been any actually good movies with a subtitle like Awakening or Covenant or something like that? These subtitles are the kinds that get thrown in some direct to tv sequels where the biggest star is the cousin or the lesser brother of some famous actor (and even that guy usually just makes a cameo).
 
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Karma Jawa

Member
Has there ever been any actually good movies with a subtitle like Awakening or Covenant or something like that? These subtitles are the kinds that get thrown in some direct to tv sequels where the biggest star is the cousin or the lesser brother of some famous actor (and even that guy usually just makes a cameo).

The Avengers films?
 

jdforge

Banned
We all know it went to shit when they killed off Hicks, Newt, dumped a dismembered Bishop and impregnated Ripley.

None of those characters deserved the treatment they got in Alien 3. The audience didn’t either.

Fair enough some people try to defend Alien 3 as not a bad movie. And I have to agree, it isn’t a bad movie. But it set the wheels in motion for where we are today, where they went with Alien 4 and why the franchise is on its knees.

Alien 3 could have been so much better than what we got.
 

Dabaus

Banned
I had really high hopes for Prometheus and Alien Covenant and whiles prometheus was a major let down, Covenant was garbage. Look, as far as im concerned i will never accecpt the fact that David is the creator of the Alien. Thats non negotiable. If Ridley Scott wants to to androids in space then he should go back to blade runner and let someone who has passion about Alien take over. Scot said "the beast is cooked." No, your awful movies are cooked Scott, You ruining the universe of Alien and making the exenomorph the creation of android with daddy issues is cooked sir.
 
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