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[Eddie-Griffin]

So like other sales threads I posted, I figure it would be a good idea to have LTD's put in a single thread that's not hard to search and doesn't require people to go on a scavenger hunt through 5 or 6 different sites to get this information which most people won't do. This thread will go over the Lifetime (LTD) sales units for consoles and handhelds that can be found in the US(not NA), UK, and Japan. For pre-NPD consoles with limited or no tracking we will be using coverage research/books or sales from the companies themselves if reliable. No add-ons or combo family sales, just individual units including their revisions. PS5/XBS excluded (outside of japan). If numbers are missing for UK post them and I will add them.

Top Selling Game Platforms in the US LTDs

1. NDS: 54 Million
2. PS2: 48 Million
3. Xbox 360: 43 Million
4. Wii: 42 Million
5. PS4: 35 Million
6. GBA: 35 Million
7. NSW: 32 Million (still counting)
8. PS1: 30 Million
9. Xbox One: ~29-30 Million
10. NES: ~29-30 Million
11. PS3: 27 Million
12. Atari 2600: Somewhere between PS3 and 3DS
13. 3DS: 23 Million
14. PSP: 20+ Million
15. SNES: 20 Million
16. Genesis: 18.5 Million
17. N64: 18 Million
18. Xbox: 15 Million
19. GameCube: 11.8 Million
20. Dreamcast: 4 Million
21. Game Gear: 4 Million
22. Intellivision: 3 Million (no sales reported after 1983)
23. Colecovision 2+ Million (sold until late 1985, last report in mid 1984)
24. Atari 7800: Somewhere between Colecovision and Saturn
25. Sega Saturn: 1.5 Million
26. Master System: ~1.5 Million
27. Lynx: Somewhere between Saturn and 3DO
28. 3DO: ~1 Million
29. Atari 5200: 1 Million
30. Odyssey 2: 1 Million
31. Turbografx-16: ~1 Million
32. Fairchild VES: Less than 500,000 sold-through
33. Phillips/other CD-i systems: Less than 500,000 sold-through
34. N-Gage: Possibly less than 500,000 sold-through
35. Atari XEGS: At Least 100,000 launch shipment sold out during holidays, and sold until 1990, final sales unknown.
36. Atari Jaguar: Less than 200,000 sold-through
37. Apple Pippin: less than 30,000 sold-Through
38. Tandy/Memorex VIS (Video Information System) ~12,000

Top Selling Game Platforms in the UK LTDs

1. Nintendo DS: 12 Million
2. PlayStation 2: 10+ Million
3. Xbox 360: 8.9 Million
4. Wii: 8.5 Million
5. PlayStation 4: 7.6 Million
6. PlayStation: 7.2 Million
7. PlayStation 3: 6.1 Million
8. Nintendo Switch: 5.7 Million (Still counting)
9. Xbox One: 5.7 Million
10. Mega Drive: 4 Million
11. SNES: 1.7 Million
12. Master System: 1.5 Million
13. NES: 1.5 Million

Top Selling Game Consoles in Japan LTDs

1. PS2: 21.9 Million
2. NES: 19.3 Million
3. PS1: 18.8 Million
4. Super NES: 17 Million
5. Wii: 12.7 Million
6. PS3: 10.4 Million
7. PS4: 9.4 Million
8. Saturn: 5.9 Million
9. Turbografx-16: 5.8 Million
10. N64: 5.5 Million
11. GameCube: 4 Million
12. Genesis: 3.5 Million
13. Wii U: 3.3 Million
14. Dreamcast: 2.4 Million
15. PS5: 2 Million (still counting)
16. 360: 1.6 Million
17. AES(only): ~800,000
18. 3DO: 770,000
19. Xbox: 473,000
20. PC-FX: 400,000
21. Xbox Series: Below 400,000 Units (Still counting)
22. Xbox One: ~100,000
23. Several niche consoles go here.

Top Selling Game Handhelds in Japan LTDs

1. NDS: 32 Million (also best selling gaming platform in Japanese history)
2. NSW: 26 Million (as of 2 days ago still counting)
3. 3DS: 25 Million
4. GB: 23 Million
5. PSP: 19 Million
6. GBA: 16 Million
7. GBC: 9 Million
8. Vita: 6 Million
9. Wonderswans: 3.5 Million
10. Game Gear: 1.7 Million
11. NGP: 550,000
12. VB: 140,000

 

[adamsapple]

Wow, the 360 sold extremely well in the US (and EU). Let's see if they can reach those highs again with Series.

 

[Banjo64]

Nintendo numbero uno in every region. Impressive.


No N64 in that UK chart? WTF bros?

 

[Excoman]

What is Xbox?

 

[TLZ]

Where's the Wii U in US charts? There's no way it sold less than the Pippin.

And it's better if you join Japan handhelds and consoles under one chart like you did US and UK. Better for consistency.

 

[feynoob]

Half of xbox is US.

 

[Bragr]

Is this right? if you add these numbers, the PS2 lands on about 80 million, we know it sold 150 million, so that is a difference of 70 million. I know this is only a few specific markets, but do all those other markets really count for 70 million?

 

[Eddie-Griffin]

Where's the Wii U in US charts? There's no way it sold less than the Pippin.

Can't find the numbers.

Is this right? if you add these numbers, the PS2 lands on about 80 million, we know it sold 150 million, so that is a difference of 70 million. I know this is only a few specific markets, but do all those other markets really count for 70 million?

You are forgetting that the UK is only one country in Europe, the rest can make up a large amount of that, add in ROTW and the fact it was on sale for such a long time it all adds up.

The 360 sold about the same as PS3 (we don't have final numbers ww for it) and that with PS3 were both about 60 million plus behind the PS2's final LTD, so the areas the PS3 was weak in the 360 was strong in and vice versa, the PS2 did better than both with no weaknesses and some extra.

 

[TLZ]

Can't find numbers.

Not even official Nintendo? They usually always have them.

 

[waquzy]

So like other sales threads I posted, I figure it would be a good idea to have LTD's put in a single thread that's not hard to search and doesn't require people to go on a scavenger hunt through 5 or 6 different sites to get this information which most people won't do. This thread will go over the Lifetime (LTD) sales units for consoles and handhelds that can be found in the US(not NA), UK, and Japan. For pre-NPD consoles with limited or no tracking we will be using coverage research/books or sales from the companies themselves if reliable. No add-ons or combo family sales, just individual units including their revisions. PS4/XBS excluded (outside Japan) due to lack of regional numbers with the recent sales PR from both, but assume both are past 20 million in US and 2M in UK minimum. If numbers are missing for UK post them and I will add them.

Top Selling Game Platforms in the US LTDs

1. NDS: 54 Million
2. PS2: 48 Million
3. Xbox 360: 43 Million
4. Wii: 42 Million
5. PS4: 35 Million
6. GBA: 35 Million
7. NSW: 32 Million (still counting)
8. PS1: 30 Million
9. Xbox One: ~29-30 Million
10. NES: ~29-30 Million
11. PS3: 27 Million
12. Atari 2600: Somewhere between PS3 and 3DS
13. 3DS: 23 Million
14. PSP: 20+ Million
15. SNES: 20 Million
16. Genesis: 18.5 Million
17. N64: 18 Million
18. Xbox: 15 Million
19. GameCube: 11.8 Million
20. Dreamcast: 4 Million
21. Game Gear: 4 Million
22. Intellivision: 3 Million (no sales reported after 1983)
23. Colecovision 2+ Million (sold until late 1985, last report in mid 1984)
24. Atari 7800: Somewhere between Colecovision and Saturn
25. Sega Saturn: 1.5 Million
26. Master System: ~1.5 Million
27. Lynx: Somewhere between Saturn and 3DO
28. 3DO: ~1 Million
29. Atari 5200: 1 Million
30. Odyssey 2: 1 Million
31. Turbografx-16: ~1 Million
32. Fairchild VES: Less than 500,000 sold-through
33. Phillips/other CD-i systems: Less than 500,000 sold-through
34. N-Gage: Possibly less than 500,000 sold-through
35. Atari XEGS: At Least 100,000 launch shipment sold out during holidays, and sold until 1990, final sales unknown.
36. Atari Jaguar: Less than 200,000 sold-through
37. Apple Pippin: less than 30,000 sold-Through

Top Selling Game Platforms in the UK LTDs

1. Nintendo DS: 12 Million
2. PlayStation 2: 10+ Million
3. Xbox 360: 8.9 Million
4. Wii: 8.5 Million
5. PlayStation 4: 7.6 Million
6. PlayStation: 7.2 Million
7. PlayStation 3: 6.1 Million
8. Nintendo Switch: 5.7 Million (Still counting)
9. Xbox One: 5.7 Million
10. Mega Drive: 4 Million
11. SNES: 1.7 Million
12. Master System: 1.5 Million
13. NES: 1.5 Million

Top Selling Game Consoles in Japan LTDs

1. PS2: 21.9 Million
2. NES: 19.3 Million
3. PS1: 18.8 Million
4. Super NES: 17 Million
5. Wii: 12.7 Million
6. PS3: 10.4 Million
7. PS4: 9.4 Million
8. Saturn: 5.9 Million
9. Turbografx-16: 5.8 Million
10. N64: 5.5 Million
11. GameCube: 4 Million
12. Genesis: 3.5 Million
13. Wii U: 3.3 Million
14. Dreamcast: 2.4 Million
15. PS5: 2 Million (still counting)
16. 360: 1.6 Million
17. AES(only): ~800,000
18. 3DO: 770,000
19. Xbox: 473,000
20. PC-FX: 400,000
21. Xbox Series: Below 400,000 Units (Still counting)
22. Xbox One: ~100,000
23. Several niche consoles go here.

Top Selling Game Handhelds in Japan LTDs

1. NDS: 32 Million (also best selling gaming platform in Japanese history)
2. NSW: 26 Million (as of 2 days ago still counting)
3. 3DS: 25 Million
4. GB: 23 Million
5. PSP: 19 Million
6. GBA: 16 Million
7. GBC: 9 Million
8. Vita: 6 Million
9. Wonderswans: 3.5 Million
10. Game Gear: 1.7 Million
11. NGP: 550,000
12. VB: 140,000

PSP sold over 19 million in Japan alone and yet Sony decided to cancel it, where is the logic? What a stupid move by Sony.

 

[Eddie-Griffin]

Not even official Nintendo? They usually always have them.

Nope, they did not give final US or even final NA sales.

PSP sold over 19 million in Japan alone and yet Sony decided to cancel it, where is the logic? What a stupid move by Sony.

Cancelled it??? They released the PS Vita as the successor.

 

[adamsapple]

PSP sold over 19 million in Japan alone and yet Sony decided to cancel it, where is the logic? What a stupid move by Sony.

Vita means life.

 

[Mr Hyde]

Sega Saturn: 1.5 Million

PS1: 30 Million

Playstation fucking curb stomped the Saturn. I owned both systems at the time but it always was disheartening to see Sega fail so miserably with their consoles. I was such a big fan of Saturn and Dreamcast but it was obvious they were struggling against PS, whose library of games was better and vastly more varied in genres, especially from third parties. I thought DC was a turnaround and I wanted them to succeed badly but in the end they were doomed. Sega's exit out of the hardware business still hurts to this day.

 

[Eddie-Griffin]

US Home console sales by Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo.

Microsoft

1. Xbox 360: 43 Million
2. Xbox One: ~29-30 Million
3. Xbox: 15 Million

Sony

1. PS2: 48 Million
2. PS4: 35 Million
3. PS1: 30 Million
4. PS3: 27 Million

Nintendo

1. Wii: 42 Million
2. NES: ~29 -30 Million
3. SNES: 20 Million
4. N64: 18 Million
5. GameCube: 11.8 Million
6. Wii U: ? (less than GameCube by good amount)

 

[waquzy]

Nope, they did not give final US or even final NA sales.



Cancelled it??? They released the Vita as the successor.

I mean the whole PlayStation Portable family (PSP, PS Vita and PSP GO).

 

[vivftp]

I mean the whole PlayStation Portable family (PSP, PS Vita and PSP GO).

The Vita came around at a time when Sony as a whole was in serious financial trouble. The PS4 had to be their focus to help get things on track and they didn't have the means to fully support the ecosystems of two gaming devices at the same time, so the Vita eventually fizzled. In retrospect and seeing how well Sony and SIE have done over the past several years, it was the right move.

 

[waquzy]

The Vita came around at a time when Sony as a whole was in serious financial trouble. The PS4 had to be their focus to help get things on track and they didn't have the means to fully support the ecosystems of two gaming devices at the same time, so the Vita eventually fizzled. In retrospect and seeing how well Sony and SIE have done over the past several years, it was the right move.

Regardless, the PSP was and still is the best handheld ever released imo.

 

[TLZ]

Wii U: ? (less than GameCube by good amount)

If lifetime NA is 6mil+, most probably US is 5mil+ alone. Can't imagine selling more than a mil in Canada and Mexico.

 

[Mr Moose]

Is this right? if you add these numbers, the PS2 lands on about 80 million, we know it sold 150 million, so that is a difference of 70 million. I know this is only a few specific markets, but do all those other markets really count for 70 million?

Europe: *exists*

 

[adamsapple]

Europe: *exists*

While true, I doubt it sold 70m in Europe. The estimates are probably very un-proportional.

 

[Mr Moose]

While true, I doubt it sold 70m in Europe. The estimates are probably very un-proportional.

It doesn't have Asia or South America/Canada numbers, either.

 

[adamsapple]

It doesn't have Asia or South America/Canada numbers, either.

True. It doesn't account for the entire MENA (middle east, north africa) region which is also pretty big into tech and gaming.

 

[feynoob]

While true, I doubt it sold 70m in Europe. The estimates are probably very un-proportional.

70m is the rest of the world.

PS2 was essentially a dvd system for alot of people.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Amazing at how low sales were for the 8 and 16 bit days (NES/Genesis/SNES) although they brought gaming back and there's so much talk and nostalgia about them.

For US sales, NES at 30M and Genesis/SNES around 20M each isnt impressive at all compared to modern standards. But thats the sign of the times when gaming wasnt as accepted compared to now.

Saturn what a bomb. And Atari 7800 selling around the same amount? Not a lot of sales, but that would be around the same time NES was out and Genesis was out soon. Never knew one kid back then even talking about 7800 never mind owning one........ at least they didnt want to admit it. lol. At the time, me and my siblings were buying gaming mags. I dont even remember mags talking about 7800 at all. I dont think I even knew it existed until the internet age.

 

[Eddie-Griffin]

The Vita came around at a time when Sony as a whole was in serious financial trouble. The PS4 had to be their focus to help get things on track and they didn't have the means to fully support the ecosystems of two gaming devices at the same time, so the Vita eventually fizzled. In retrospect and seeing how well Sony and SIE have done over the past several years, it was the right move.

Vita fizzles because of bad decisions and highly priced games, SD cards, and accessories, along with a lackluster library compared to the PSP's first tow years. Sony being in trouble was only part of the problem.

although they brought gaming back

What?

70m is the rest of the world.

PS2 was essentially a dvd system for alot of people.

It was a DVD player in it's best countries too for some of the sales, Sony also sent out more PS2's to lower income countries once the 360/wii were first out when the console could be brought for $50 or $60 making it a cheap option and one of the reason the PS2 was on sell for so long. If the NDS had the same geographical reach as the P2 it would have sold much more, but most of its sales were in higher income countries.

 

[Dr. Wilkinson]

Why is NSW counted as a handheld? It’s a home console you can take with you on the go. Marketed as a portable home console. And Nintendo has always said it’s a home console first and foremost. Buuut we’re counting it in the handhelds and not the home console list? Weird.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

PS2s were always cheap. Amazing Sony sold them at such a low price even at launch. By the end, that super small PS2 which looked like it wasnt much bigger than a gamepad sold for $70 or $80 in Canada. I remember seeing ads for it. Crazy.

 

[Topher]

Why is NSW counted as a handheld? It’s a home console you can take with you on the go. Marketed as a portable home console. And Nintendo has always said it’s a home console first and foremost. Buuut we’re counting it in the handhelds and not the home console list? Weird.

Looks like Switch is counted among home consoles in the US and UK markets in the OP but not Japan, where is it only counted as a handheld.

 

[Eddie-Griffin]

PS2s were always cheap. Amazing Sony sold them at such a low price even at launch. By the end, that super small PS2 which looked like it wasnt much bigger than a gamepad sold for $70 or $80 in Canada. I remember seeing ads for it. Crazy.

I heard those mini PS2's had bad reliability, never tried them myself though.

 

[Iced Arcade]

Kinda surprised how close the Xbox one and PS4 were in NA. Like actually surprised.

 

[Topher]

Kinda surprised how close the Xbox one and PS4 were in NA. Like actually surprised.

Yeah, I remember the NPD numbers (when we got them) in the US every month were always in PS4's favor, but not by as much as you would think.

 

[yurinka]

Wow, the 360 sold extremely well in the US (and EU). Let's see if they can reach those highs again with Series.

In UK yes, like in USA or Mexico. But not in EU. PS3 outsold 360 thanks to Japan and mostly EU.

 

[Eddie-Griffin]

PS3 outsold 360

We don't know this and we likely never will unless Phil comes out with ltds.

 

[yurinka]

We don't know this and we likely never will unless Phil comes out with ltds.

Yes, we know it. PS3 sold over 87M and 360 sold 84M until slightly more than a year before being discontinued. On their last year consoles barely sell, and if 360 would have outsold PS3 make sure Phil would have mentioned it loudly many times.

In fact, now I remember that MS told once or twice to regulators during the ABK investigations that Sony outsold them in every generation.

 

[Ash Sparrow]

When you break it down like that Xbox brand seems pretty strong, just unable to conquer in Japan.

 

[Eddie-Griffin]

Yes, we know it. PS3 sold over 87M and 360 sold 84M until slightly more than a year before being discontinued.

The 360 sold 84 Million in summer 2014, and in the US alone sold around 1 million consoles that holiday without including the sales from summer to the end of the year anywhere else. it also did well in the US in 2015, and that's not accounting for anywhere else either.

Until Phil comes out with numbers we don't know without the ltd being released.

Sony outsold them in every generation.

That's not what the said in context.

 

[ZoukGalaxy]

Nintendo numbero uno in every region. Impressive.

Not in Japan

 

[Ghost of Caelid]

Microsoft fumbling the Xbox 360 mindshare has to be the biggest L in gaming history. Also I see why Sony didn’t want to raise the price of the PS5 in the US. The market is too neck and neck to risk it.

 

[digoutyoursoul]

Despite RROD, 360 was a great console imo. They should of done a much better job on building that momentum with its successor.

 

[Vandole]

I heard those mini PS2's had bad reliability, never tried them myself though.

I thought it was vice versa. The original PS2 I had all sorts of problems. The PS2 slim on the other hand was actually pretty durable little device.

I don't know, could just be my experience. The original PS2 is the only console I've ever had that didn't make it 5 years before it was broken.

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

PS2 It's the magic of video games... Damn, it took me a long time to have the PS2, But now I still love their games...

It was the golden age of video games along with Xbox and Gamecube... as well as the Survival Horror.

Despite RROD, 360 was a great console imo. They should of done a much better job on building that momentum with its successor.

For me it was the worst console I've ever had, and it was where I lost confidence in the brand and in Microsoft.

Since then I have not bought the Xbox brand again.

Well actually the worst is by far the Nintendo Wii for me... the Third is N64

Regardless, the PSP was and still is the best handheld ever released imo.

Agreed...but For me is PS VITA
The fact that Gravity Rush was born there makes me very fond of PS VITA.

 

[Banjo64]

Not in Japan

They are number 1-4 in Japan.

 

[Eddie-Griffin]

I thought it was vice versa. The original PS2 I had all sorts of problems. The PS2 slim on the other hand was actually pretty durable little device.

I don't know, could just be my experience. The original PS2 is the only console I've ever had that didn't make it 5 years before it was broken.

I said the mini PS2 not the Slim. Sometimes called the PS2 Super Slim.

 

[TheGodfather07]

Damn DS and PS2 were insane. 360 too! Microsoft really shot both of their own legs off with the xbox one didn't they? All that marketshare they gained for nothing.

 

[Eddie-Griffin]

Damn DS and PS2 were insane. 360 too! Microsoft really shot both of their own legs off with the xbox one didn't they? All that marketshare they gained for nothing.

A 5 million gap between the Xbox One and PS4 isn't that much. Yeah, it's a loss from where the 360 was compared to the PS3, but it's really not that much of a beating and is somewhat close to the PS4. People made it seem the Xbox One did a lot worse than it did in the US.

 

[TheGodfather07]

A 5 million gap between the Xbox One and PS4 isn't that much. Yeah, it's a loss from where the 360 was compared to the PS3, but it's really not that much of a beating and is somewhat close to the PS4. People made it seem the Xbox One did a lot worse than it did in the US.

It's big when you consider that they were well ahead of playstation at the time. A behemoth brand. A brand people though would dominate that generation. To go ahead of them, only to throw it all away, is the biggest botch this industry has ever seen. Look at how sony have murdered them since. The effects are still seen even today. You think Microsoft will ever have a chance like that again?

 

[Woopah]

PSP sold over 19 million in Japan alone and yet Sony decided to cancel it, where is the logic? What a stupid move by Sony.

With games getting more and more expensive and taking longer and longer to make, supporting two separate platforms is no longer sustainable. Both Nintendo and Sony realised this, though they had slightly different solutions to the problem.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

You're missing PS5 from the UK list; they just reached 2 million LTD a few weeks ago. That'd put them in the 11th spot according to your list.

 

[Eddie-Griffin]

It's big when you consider that they were well ahead of playstation at the time. A behemoth brand. A brand people though would dominate that generation. To go ahead of them, only to throw it all away,

Throw it all away isn't a small 5 million gap, and already they are less than a few hundred K apart right now mostly because MS game delays, they would be ahead right now if not for that in the US.

Only a 5 million gap says more about Sony than it does about Xbox, and shows that late turn around the Xbox One made worked. Don't forget that Xbox One was discontinued shortly around the time of the XBS release, the One X even earlier, unlike the PS4 Pro, and despite an extra over 2 years Sony still only managed a 5 million gap, in 2019 it was 3 or a bit less.

You see the same in the UK, less than 2 million gap under the same circumstances regarding the discontinuation of the X and then the regular Xbox One before Sony did the same with PS4 and Pro.

You're missing PS5 from the UK list; they just reached 2 million LTD a few weeks ago. That'd put them in the 11th spot according to your list.

Check the last part of the OP's opening paragraph.

 

[DenchDeckard]

360 was insane!

Can microsoft ever return to some similar level of greatness.

People on here act like MS have never had any success in console gaming and the 360 beat almost every other console in history. It was a beast.