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The War Over Iggy Azalea: ESPN Anchor Claims the Femcee Is ‘Trying to Kill Hip Hop'

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Deadly Cyclone

Pride of Iowa State
This quote was too good not to share. From ESPN SportsCenter anchor Robert Flores:

We learned that according to the Lakers’ Nick Young, a dolphin recently tried to kill him. So Nick, while dolphins are trying to kill you, your girlfriend is trying to kill hip-hop. Let’s call it even, OK?

Decent article too.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...ter_page&account=thedailybeast&medium=twitter

Iggy performs as a caricature of American blackness. She’s much closer to post-fame Vanilla Ice than she is to Eminem at any point in his career. As an artist, she’s never represented who she truly is (her own cultural experiences are close to nonexistent in her music) and as a rapper, she hasn't got much in the way of an original voice or fresh perspective. And in terms of visibility, she’s leapfrogged every female rapper not named “Nicki Minaj” solely because she’s a leggy blond girl with “attitude.” It’s not “hating” to recognize how white privilege has garnered her a certain amount of attention, nor is it off-base to acknowledge how being a white girl who models can help a rapper land major mag covers.

The question of authenticity may seem antiquated in an era of hip-hop where Rick Ross can go from corrections officer to faux drug kingpin, but it can’t be dismissed when talking about appropriation. White media making black culture cool while disregarding the people from whence the culture came is fairly old news, but in this media age there are ways to make dissident voices heard. There is an important difference between portraying a fictional character and appropriating cultural stereotypes. It’s not just that Iggy isn’t being herself—it’s that she’s attempting to be “black.” In her own interview with Power 106 last week, Azalea discussed her Grammy nomination and the fact that people seemed happy that Eminem won Rap Album of the Year over her—despite the fact that he’s as white as she is.

“I found it to be kind of ironic,” she said. “It was because I’m white, therefore I’m appropriating culture. But then Eminem won it—who’s white and won it many times—and they didn’t seem to say anything about that.”



Igloo Australia.
 
You ain't doing nothing right if you don't have haters constantly on your dick

Is this the 3rd or 4th iggy hate topic this week alone?
 
I just don't have a problem with Iggy's presence in hip hop. I would never describe her as "authentic" and she doesn't deserve a grammy nomination in that category, but I'm tired of people complaining about her appropriation of the culture. Her fake ATL accent is dumb, the same way the fake country music twang is dumb, but otherwise she is what she is.
 
I like her and her music

I don't understand why there's this uproar about Iggy making rap songs ("INAUTHENTIC! POSING!") but Nicki Minaj can literally admit she makes her albums half rap and half pop so that she can go after young white teens and we're all ok with "starships are meant to fly."

Everything is marketing, just enjoy the music.
 
Iggy performs as a caricature of American blackness.

Couldn't this be said of a near majority of all mainstream radio rap? Yet you rarely see any criticism of the sheer ignorance of shit like I'm In Love With The Coco. There's a constant stream of negative stereotypes on the radio...and it's not coming from Iggy.

I think she's trash, I think her success is laughable/pathetic, etc etc etc...but it continues to amaze me that so many people aren't offended by shit until white people half do it.
 

Faiz

Member
I feel like "femcee" is a combination of letters that should never be used by anyone, anywhere, to describe anything or anyone.
 

JimiNutz

Banned
Hip Hop?
What has Iggy got to do with Hip Hop? She's a pop star making pop music for children isn't she? Does anyone actually consider her a rapper? How can she destroy a genre that she is not a part of in the first place?

Maybe I'm way off the mark here but I thought she was just making pop music and never pretended that she was a genuine rapper?
 
Even though it was entertaining, I feel like if Nick Young was the one throwing shots at a sports reporter or anchor's wife the media would be crying aboit how unprofessional it is, and the word "thug" would probably be used once or twice. And people wonder why Marshawn Lynch or Kevin Durant get sick of talking to these assholes.
 
Hip Hop?
What has Iggy got to do with Hip Hop? She's a pop star making pop music for children isn't she? Does anyone actually consider her a rapper? How can she destroy a genre that she is not a part of in the first place?

Maybe I'm way off the mark here but I thought she was just making pop music and never pretended that she was a genuine rapper?

This is how I view her too. She's nothing more than a pop star flash in the pan. She'll be gone in a year or two. She's had no effect on hip hop as a genre.
 

studyguy

Member
Even though it was entertaining, I feel like if Nick Young was the one throwing shots at a sports reporter or anchor's wife the media would be crying aboit how unprofessional it is, and the word "thug" would probably be used once or twice. And people wonder why Marshawn Lynch or Kevin Durant get sick of talking to these assholes.

All it really emphasizes is how dumb this shit is. I'm sure ESPN is having a field day with the amount of attention this got though. 10/10 who can we shit on next week?
 

Courage

Member
Couldn't this be said of a near majority of all mainstream radio rap? Yet you rarely see any criticism of the sheer ignorance of shit like I'm In Love With The Coco. There's a constant stream of negative stereotypes on the radio...and it's not coming from Iggy.

I think she's trash, I think her success is laughable/pathetic, etc etc etc...but it continues to amaze me that so many people aren't offended by shit until white people half do it.

It just rubs me the wrong way when I see someone so detached from the culture do it. And the way her fame just skyrocketed once she picked up that fake accent. Her obliviousness to the whole thing isn't helping either.

My initial outrage for it kinda subsided when I realized she's just gonna fade away and won't be building some kind of fruitful career out of this.
 

Deadly Cyclone

Pride of Iowa State
Hopefully she succeeds.

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kill hip hop eh? That was a heated conversation among fans and artist of the genre...back in 2006. Icky Ismellya isn't killing hip hop. She's just wrongfully being called the best female rapper out when her verses are just filler between the real stars of the show(the singers singing the hooks and the beats). Also her Gangsta Boo accent is annoying.
 

Courage

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I honestly mostly listen to 80's/90's hip hop because most of the stuff today is garbage. The golden age has passed.
Like I said, making statements like this show you have no idea on what hip hop is today, other than stuff you hear on the radio. Artists modernizing that sound, others that are strictly remaining faithful to it, and that's without scratching the surface of underground stuff. Listen to the new Joey Badass album to get an idea.
 
Hip Hop?
What has Iggy got to do with Hip Hop? She's a pop star making pop music for children isn't she? Does anyone actually consider her a rapper? How can she destroy a genre that she is not a part of in the first place?

Maybe I'm way off the mark here but I thought she was just making pop music and never pretended that she was a genuine rapper?

I don't think her music or her persona is for children.
If it is, so is Nicki MInaj then.
 
It just rubs me the wrong way when I see someone so detached from the culture do it. And the way her fame just skyrocketed once she picked up that fake accent. Her obliviousness to the whole thing isn't helping either.

My initial outrage for it kinda subsided when I realized she's just gonna fade away and won't be building some kind of fruitful career out of this.

Her fame didn't really catapult due to the accent though. She used the same accent in Murder Business and a variety of other tracks that flopped. Charlie XCX made her. And this.
 

Courage

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Her fame didn't really catapult due to the accent though. She used the same accent in Murder Business and a variety of other tracks that flopped. Charlie XCX made her. And this.

I'd say it's a combination of both. Charli alone wouldn't have made that the hit that it was.
 

Davey Cakes

Member
I like her and her music

I don't understand why there's this uproar about Iggy making rap songs ("INAUTHENTIC! POSING!") but Nicki Minaj can literally admit she makes her albums half rap and half pop so that she can go after young white teens and we're all ok with "starships are meant to fly."

Everything is marketing, just enjoy the music.
Enjoy Iggy Azalea? Enjoy Nicki Minaj?

You ask too much of me, good sir.
 

esms

Member
Like I said, making statements like this show you have no idea on what hip hop is today, other than stuff you hear on the radio. Artists modernizing that sound, others that are strictly remaining faithful to it, and that's without scratching the surface of underground stuff. Listen to the new Joey Badass album to get an idea.

Notice that I used the qualifier "most." I'll listen to dudes like DOOM and groups like The Doppelgangaz, but there's not much else I like.

Edit: I just listened to the Joey Badass top hit on a google search (Christ Conscious), and while I'm surprised that the beat is pretty good, the lyrics are still basic as hell. It just doesn't do it for me anymore.
 

Fury451

Banned
Is everyone fighting in this war of Iggy Azalea drafted?

How embarrassing would your tombstone be if you were KIA?

"Died in the Battle of Iggy. Their sacrifice was in vain and will be forgotten within the decade"
 

JABEE

Member
This might be the most obnoxious headline I've ever read.

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Femcee. And people say Iggy is the killer of rap.

Welcome to 15 years ago. Rap is a mainstream musical genre. Same thing happened to rock. There is room for all kinds of rap/sub-categories.

Respect artists for what they are. Do you think Velvet Revolver or the Sex Pistols gave a shit about winning the Grammy's? People care too much about who wins those awards. It's an old industry event that is a promotional tool for recorded music.
 
RoFlo was out of line and unnecessary as fuck. Regardless of who he is and who she is, no one would ever say its anything other than disrespectful to put another man's girl on blast on national TV.

That being said, lol at Nick Young trying to get brolic on Twitter. "We gonna be seeing each other real soon"? lol, no the fuck yall ain't.

If one hair on an ESPN employee's head is harmed, Disney will have Nick back slumming the streets of Compton faster than you can say Swaggy.
 
Nah. Here's the original

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWcYOz2fpMk

Charli blessed her with that hook

Yeeeeeaaaaaa, anyone saying that Charli isn't the reason "Fancy" blew up after listening to this is a goddamn lie.

This shit is forgettable as fuck.

And Charli is banging out catchy hooks like that with her two solo albums and only Boom Clap caught on. It's the DJ Mustard-esque beat, Iggy and the hook.

Charli's inability to make herself relevant doesn't change the fact her hook made Iggy relevant. Again listen to the version without Charli and say with a straight face that song would have still blown up.

You'd be lying to yourself.
 
Notice that I used the qualifier "most." I'll listen to dudes like DOOM and groups like The Doppelgangaz, but there's not much else I like.

Edit: I just listened to the Joey Badass top hit on a google search (Christ Conscious), and while I'm surprised that the beat is pretty good, the lyrics are still basic as hell. It just doesn't do it for me anymore.

Joey Badass is another one of those average rappers nowadays that people hold with high regard
 
I like her and her music

I don't understand why there's this uproar about Iggy making rap songs ("INAUTHENTIC! POSING!") but Nicki Minaj can literally admit she makes her albums half rap and half pop so that she can go after young white teens and we're all ok with "starships are meant to fly."

Everything is marketing, just enjoy the music.

Nah, Minaj got into a feud with a radio station over that pop shit.
 
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