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Trump's debt limit deal with Dems likely to lead to DACA becoming law at end of year
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Greigor The Fellhand
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Schuemer, goat.
Schumer got in and a say on all major legislation with this deal?
And the dems weren't bluffing, they're digging in and making the repubs show there hand
Schumer got in and a say on all major legislation with this deal?
And the dems weren't bluffing, they're digging in and making the repubs show there hand
Schumer isn't playing six dimensional chess any more than his opponent is. It's just one of those rare moments where Trump's incompetence is more complete than we could have hoped for.
Super Moop
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Just like he supports the ACA, the Paris Climate Agreement, and the Russian Investigation.
No, it was a bluff. This was Schumer's opening offer. Trump took it.
TheLaughingStock
Member
It could if they're clapping in meetings and doing victory laps in the media. People ought to do that after everything is set in stone and passes Congress so they don't risk looking foolish. That would be the sensible way to handle things in my view.
Huh, I think I know what happened: Reports have been saying that Trump wanted an out on DACA, that he's a moron that didn't know what he was doing.
This is his out.
He might be trying to force Republicans to write acceptable DACA legislation by giving leverage to the Democrats who will do it. If this is the case, and that's a big IF, it would be the first mildly smart thing he's done since taking office. Of course he just backstabbed the Republican party in a major way a year before midterms, so this might backfire later on. Also, the entire DACA debacle is a crises of his own creation for no reason.
Let's see what happens!
This is his out.
He might be trying to force Republicans to write acceptable DACA legislation by giving leverage to the Democrats who will do it. If this is the case, and that's a big IF, it would be the first mildly smart thing he's done since taking office. Of course he just backstabbed the Republican party in a major way a year before midterms, so this might backfire later on. Also, the entire DACA debacle is a crises of his own creation for no reason.
Let's see what happens!
Art of the Deal.
If DACA becomes legislation while he's in office, he can parrot how he was able to make it a law unlike Obama's executive order.
Even if Trump goes back on this, it's not like the Democrats lose anything, and it'll be easy to frame it as Trump backtracking (which is nothing new). I mean, it's truly amazing how after everything we've seen this guy do some of you think he's 4D chessing this. It's obvious just a petty slight at a party that he feels isn't as supportive of him as he wants, and the Dems played that card well. They have literally nothing to lose in this situation
Democrats aren't saying they will definitely get DACA passed and even if they don't, they still don't lose anything because they didn't give up anything.
In no way is this a trap for Democrats.
Considering the fact that the Dems will be supporting anti-abortion house candidates this time around I wouldn't be surprised if this actually happened.
MrMephistoX
Gold Member
Can't stand the guy but if this type of deal making leads to progressive agenda getting somewhat passed I'm all for it. Cut more deals with democrats. If I were Schumer I would milk Trump for all he's worth...funding for the wall in exchange for stabilizing Obamacare seems like a small price to pay considering construction will outlast his one term in office. Hell stall and convince him drones are a better idea...at least they can be re-purposes after he's gone.
The Greek Freak
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Pelosi and Schumer aren't any better or worse than they were a month ago just because Trump is incompetent.
RPGCrazied
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He will probably do this when impeachment is near. Anything to get Democrats on his side.
This is still far from a done deal, I wouldn't lower my guard just yet.
Oh it's you
hydragonwarrior
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I bet u some convefe that's how Schumer advertised the deal.
StrangeRoboMemory
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Is this the "cucking" thing I keep hearing about
To be fair, Trump probably hates all those shit lords just as much as the rest of us, and the dude wanted a win. Dude doesn't give a shit about anything lol.
https://twitter.com/LouDobbs/status/905578866730815488
I don't think I can laugh hard enough at this segment and just how much this deal is fucking with the GOP's head atm.
GOP gets reamed, turns around and blasts Paul Ryan for Trump 'Getting a deal done" with the Democrats, completely ignoring that he capitulated entirely and that the GOP congress failed to help Trump.
It's fucking crazy.
I don't think I can laugh hard enough at this segment and just how much this deal is fucking with the GOP's head atm.
GOP gets reamed, turns around and blasts Paul Ryan for Trump 'Getting a deal done" with the Democrats, completely ignoring that he capitulated entirely and that the GOP congress failed to help Trump.
It's fucking crazy.
Lil'DigiOp
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I think you're 100% on the money here. This DACA shit has changed the game effectively.
We just have to look at Dems not fucking shit up and holding the cards for the right time.
Look at the growing resentment of the Republican party. They are losing control of their bulldog and its biting them in the ass. If Trump likes the press with Dems then impeachment is definitely on the table.
Another interesting note, when Gorka was cast out, he said that the MAGA initiative is dead in the white house around Trump and that him and Bannon are more useful outside.
This all makes totals sense now connecting Trumps initial policy early this year! The Muslim Ban, Wall Funding, Jeff Sessions Task Force.
That was all white nationalist policy being fed. Now trump is dealing with more down to earth stuff and the people who actually make policy can get facetime and not be shut out like his old cabinet probally did.
Except they are if they played Trump's own incompetence against his own party's incompetence.
That was hilarious.
That's some pretty intense spin right there.
Chezzymann
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Its weird seeing all these conservative personalities adopting Trumps speaking patterns and name calling style, shits so surreal
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
......
holy shit he's totally going to start blatantly taking credit for a black man's public victories, isn't he?
skullmuffins
Banned
I almost spit out my drink at him calling Paul Ryan a RINO and the implication that Trump - who just caved in 100% to the first offer Dems made - is a "true Republican". The party has lost its goddamn mind.
Trump is more popular than congress, therefore, it makes sense for Fox to pander more to those people.
Brock Reiher
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^^^
Trump doesn't know what he'll be doing hours from now let alone what he'll eventually do with DACA.
ryutaro's mama
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Is it...4?
If I could favorite a post, this would be it.
SatelliteOfLove
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Dear conservatives: The #nevertrumps already know this, but for the slower amongst you:
Everything Trump Touches Dies
"Everything" here denotes your dignity. Enjoy.
Also: vote for the goddamn DACA bill and pay the fuck attention in Trump-Russia hearings if you ain't.
I've been privately surmising that Pelosi would likely be a major designer of the upcoming financial bills given the current stopgap bill funding the fed. But this? Holy shit. Them two are like that cornerback in the Butt Fumble video. "Oh thanks!"
Everything Trump Touches Dies
"Everything" here denotes your dignity. Enjoy.
Also: vote for the goddamn DACA bill and pay the fuck attention in Trump-Russia hearings if you ain't.
I've been privately surmising that Pelosi would likely be a major designer of the upcoming financial bills given the current stopgap bill funding the fed. But this? Holy shit. Them two are like that cornerback in the Butt Fumble video. "Oh thanks!"
skullmuffins
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Well, yes, (though Congress's approval is almost always in the shitter), but what stands out is that he's not just calling Paul Ryan out for being bad at his job, but that Ryan is not a real Republican and doesn't stand for Republican values. Trump's nomination and subsequent election basically demonstrated that his racist, xenophobic faux-populism is more, uh, popular than the "traditional" GOP platform of like, corporate tax cuts and gutting social services. Establishment GOP have to be pulling their hair out over what to do with the monster they've created.
BoogieWoogie
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Dubbedinenglish
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THE BEST OF FRIENDS! BOSOM BUDDIES!
The ever increasing size and length of Trump's tie will never not be hilarious.
Dead Prince
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Thanks Obama
ryutaro's mama
Member
I'm willing to bet when he was young, he did that shit we all do in tying your tie into that short version and was probably ridiculed for it.
And from that day on, the ties were long.
No joke.
Tallshortman
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Pelosi has always been quite good at shepherding her caucus, the issue has been her "likability" among moderates and independents.. I've also been very impressed with Schumer's ability to keep his caucus together while also giving slack to the moderates from conservative states.
So what's wrong with Pelosi and Schumer?
I have to say, other then things they can't control (executive orders) they've done perfectly stalling Republican legislation so far. And there's only 4 months left.
They haven't somehow magic'd progressive legislation with a Republican President and Congress so therefore they are failures.
Cow Mengde
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What if Democrats use this chance to turn Trump into a Democratic puppet. Someone so incompetent that Democrats trick into helping them.
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