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[ManaByte]

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/dc-film-tv-boss-dan-lin-1235204760/

The role would encompass overseeing not just film but television as well, with Lin reporting directly to Warner Bros. Discovery CEO David Zaslav, according to sources.

The proposed structure would bypass three separate division heads — Warner Bros. Pictures’ heads Michael De Luca and Pam Abdy, HBO/HBO Max chief Casey Bloys, and Warner Bros. TV chair Channing Dungey — and put control of DC in the hands of one person.

That’s how Marvel works, where Feige would report directly to Iger (now Chapek).

 

[Ragnarok]

Not super stoked given his stable of films but hey, can’t get much worse can it? Can it?!!

 

[ManaByte]

Not super stoked given his stable of films but hey, can’t get much worse can it? Can it?!!

LEGO Batman is the best Batman movie.

 

[Little Mac]

LEGO Batman is the best Batman movie.

 

[KyoZz]

Warner Bros. Discovery Hasn’t Finalized Top DC Job, ‘Lego Movie’ Producer Dan Lin Only in the Mix​

Sources say Lin hasn't yet been made an offer for a role that would oversee film and TV adaptations of DC Comics properties

Warner Bros. Discovery Hasn’t Finalized Top DC Job, ‘Lego Movie’ Producer Dan Lin Only in the Mix

Dan Lin is in contention for the top job overseeing DC's film and TV adaptations for Warner Bros. Discovery, but no offer has been made and several hurdles need to be cleared.

variety.com

Bring Deborah Snyder

 

[Fbh]

Well there's no way but up for the DCEU.

Warner Bros. Discovery Hasn’t Finalized Top DC Job, ‘Lego Movie’ Producer Dan Lin Only in the Mix​

Sources say Lin hasn't yet been made an offer for a role that would oversee film and TV adaptations of DC Comics properties

http://[URL]https://variety.com/2022/film/news/dan-lin-dc-warner-bros-discovery-1235351357/

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Bring Deborah Snyder

To be fair Feige didn't exactly have a stellar track record before the MCU.
Sure he was involved in the first 2 Spiderman and X-Men movies, but he also produced Daredevil, the shitty OG Hulk, the shitty OG Punisher, Elektra, the worst Blade movie, the shitty Fantastic Four movie, Man Thing, etc.

 

[Jinzo Prime]

Warner Bros. Discovery Hasn’t Finalized Top DC Job, ‘Lego Movie’ Producer Dan Lin Only in the Mix​

Sources say Lin hasn't yet been made an offer for a role that would oversee film and TV adaptations of DC Comics properties

Warner Bros. Discovery Hasn’t Finalized Top DC Job, ‘Lego Movie’ Producer Dan Lin Only in the Mix

Dan Lin is in contention for the top job overseeing DC's film and TV adaptations for Warner Bros. Discovery, but no offer has been made and several hurdles need to be cleared.

variety.com

Bring Deborah Snyder

Kevin Feigie wasn't some hotshot producer when he started either. He certainly had more comic book movie credits, but those include bombs like Ann Lee's Hulk, The Daredevil, and Spider-Man 3. Dan Lin's a pretty descent choice imho.

EDIT: Someone posed just before me with the same point, lol!

 

[KyoZz]

Well there's no way but up for the DCEU.




To be fair Feige didn't exactly have a stellar track record before the MCU.
Sure he was involved in the first 2 Spiderman and X-Men movies, but he also produced Daredevil, the shitty OG Hulk, the shitty OG Punisher, Elektra, the worst Blade movie, the shitty Fantastic Four movie, Man Thing, etc.

Kevin Feigie wasn't some hotshot producer when he started either. He certainly had more comic book movie credits, but those include bombs like Ann Lee's Hulk, The Daredevil, and Spider-Man 3. Dan Lin's a pretty descent choice imho.

I didn't said it was an awful track record lmao. Average yes, but not terrible.
Even if there is a lot more bad than good in this list, I won't judge before we have a slate and the first movies out with him at the helm (if he is indeed picked by WBD)

It's just to give people a better idea of what he's done in the past.

 

[Jinzo Prime]

I didn't said it was an awful track record lmao. Average yes, but not terrible.
Even if there is a lot more bad than good in this list, I won't judge before we have a slate and the first movies out with him at the helm (if he is indeed picked by WBD)

It's just to give people a better idea of what he's done in the past.

I guess I just feel that a producer isn't as important as getting the right directors on board for the first few projects.

Like, every Marvel Studios release is heavily influenced by Jon Favreau's Iron Man and Joss Whedon' The Avengers, for better or worse. I think that the first few films in the new DC Cinematic Universe will set the stage for everything else and the producer just has to keep whatever style works the best going forward, and I hope this guy is talented enough to do so.

 

[ManaByte]

 

[KyoZz]

I guess I just feel that a producer isn't as important as getting the right directors on board for the first few projects.

Like, every Marvel Studios release is heavily influenced by Jon Favreau's Iron Man and Joss Whedon' The Avengers, for better or worse. I think that the first few films in the new DC Cinematic Universe will set the stage for everything else and the producer just has to keep whatever style works the best going forward, and I hope this guy is talented enough to do so.

Producers have a good amount of power in the US, so this is an important role. But sure the director is crucial too.
As always with WBD we just have to wait and see and hope for the best.

 

[pramod]

Nice, I'm a huge fan of Godzilla: Kotm.

 

[NoLootBoxDev]

Not super stoked given his stable of films but hey, can’t get much worse can it? Can it?!!

 

[Konnor]

Most of the stuff he produces are soulless mediocrities. There are also some films I truly hate because of how cynical they are, like It Chapter Two which is a series of "scary" scenes stitched together into a long ass pointless film.

 

[AmuroChan]

According to the article, Lin is highly recommended by Alan Horn, who was the guy that found Kevin Feige. To me, it's actually good that it's a relatively unknown that most people have never heard of.

 

[sol_bad]

Well there's no way but up for the DCEU.




To be fair Feige didn't exactly have a stellar track record before the MCU.
Sure he was involved in the first 2 Spiderman and X-Men movies, but he also produced Daredevil, the shitty OG Hulk, the shitty OG Punisher, Elektra, the worst Blade movie, the shitty Fantastic Four movie, Man Thing, etc.

He really didn't have that much input in those films. He was more like an observer who made suggestions if anything.

*EDIT*
He learnt a hell of a lot about the industry though. Which is why he was so good when he was allowed to be in charge.

 

[AmuroChan]

He really didn't have that much input in those films. He was more like an observer who made suggestions if anything.

*EDIT*
He learnt a hell of a lot about the industry though. Which is why he was so good when he was allowed to be in charge.

DC fans should be optimistic. The guy championing Dan Lin for this position is the same guy who found and hired Kevin Feige. There's probably not another person in this world better suited to recommend someone more than Alan Horn.

 

[ManaByte]

DC fans should be optimistic. The guy championing Dan Lin for this position is the same guy who found and hired Kevin Feige. There's probably not another person in this world better suited to recommend someone more than Alan Horn.

Here's the funny thing, certain people were championing Alan Horn because they thought he'd do what the hashtag warriors on Twitter demand that he does. Wait for it, he'll soon be branded a "snake" and be subject to the same torment Hamada was.

 

[sol_bad]

DC fans should be optimistic. The guy championing Dan Lin for this position is the same guy who found and hired Kevin Feige. There's probably not another person in this world better suited to recommend someone more than Alan Horn.

That was Avi Arad I'm pretty sure. He helped create Marvel Studios with Feige. Avi left not long after Iron Man 1 came out.

 

[iorek21]

Good to hear that they’re following the MCU on that matter, but what really interests me is what DC will make of their current DCEU, Jokerverse and Batpattison

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

I hope this ends up helping them in the long end. I really want DC to be able to compete with Marvel on the movie and show front. I'm saying this as a huge Marvel/MCU fan. DC has alot of potential when comes to actually having a shared universe. I LOVED The Batman

 

[AmuroChan]

Here's the funny thing, certain people were championing Alan Horn because they thought he'd do what the hashtag warriors on Twitter demand that he does. Wait for it, he'll soon be branded a "snake" and be subject to the same torment Hamada was.

I could be wrong, but isn't Alan Horn not even on Twitter?

 

[ManaByte]

I could be wrong, but isn't Alan Horn not even on Twitter?

Neither was Hamada.

 

[AmuroChan]

Neither was Hamada.

I think part of Hamada's struggles was that he had to report to Toby Emmerich, which by most accounts is a very difficult person to work for. I think the new streamlined reporting structure will help.

 

[ManaByte]

I think part of Hamada's struggles was that he had to report to Toby Emmerich, which by most accounts is a very difficult person to work for. I think the new streamlined reporting structure will help.

https://variety.com/2022/film/news/...oker-2-walter-hamada-david-zaslav-1235337927/

But Warner Bros. rank-and-file also believe that Hamada has been mistreated even before Discovery bought the company from AT&T. They note that Hamada had to endure death threats after “Justice League” star Ray Fisher publicly accused the executive of undermining an investigation into misconduct allegations related to reshoots on that film. Many staffers believe the studio did not do enough the back their embattled executive and feel it was unfair that he became the target of Snyder-verse fans because that film was completed before he took over at DC.

 

[AmuroChan]

https://variety.com/2022/film/news/...oker-2-walter-hamada-david-zaslav-1235337927/

I get that. I was just saying that Hamada was not placed in a position to succeed. He had a lot of external forces to deal with. Lin should have a blank slate and he'll get to report directly to Zaslav.

 

[Punished Miku]

Sweet. Just another 8-10 years to slowly architect a large payoff similar to what we saw in Avengers several years ago. I'm simultaneously patient and excited!

 

[Kraz]

That's a good plan. Hope he's a good choice.

The MCU moving into more compartmentalized shows is going to be a challenge to catch up. Drama, comedy, action, horror are getting their own characters and themes of magick, tech, alien, gods, humans that are working towards the big budget Avenger films. The abundance to get there was built up.

The MCU shows will keep going, but there's a sense after Secret Wars the audience for superhero movies is going to finally wind down a bit and move onto other films. That's drawn from an assumption on how the themes in these MCU shows are getting more genre specific as a way to compensate for increased viewer diversity and maturity over time.

 

[ManaByte]

but there's a sense after Secret Wars

People are able to predict what’s going to happen in 2025? Can they tell me who will win the next three Super Bowls?

 

[Kraz]

People are able to predict what’s going to happen in 2025? Can they tell me who will win the next three Super Bowls?

As said that's based off the depth and diversity of shows the MCU is currently producing to maintain and grow their market. There's the unspoken implication the audience is changing and they're adapting to it.

Trends in film have come and gone before.

 

[bitbydeath]

Most of the stuff he produces are soulless mediocrities. There are also some films I truly hate because of how cynical they are, like It Chapter Two which is a series of "scary" scenes stitched together into a long ass pointless film.

It Chapter Two wasn’t the greatest but it still had some fantastic scenes.

 

[Konnor]

It Chapter Two wasn’t the greatest but it still had some fantastic scenes.

I hated everything about it, the CGI shit that made every supposedly scary scene look comical, the characters that pretty much had no development or time to breathe in a long ass film because it was too busy jumping from one scary scene to another, the pointless story that repeats what happened in the first one. It's the Marvel of horror flicks: Expensive, hollow, formulaic, full of CGI shit and completely forgettable.

 

[SlimySnake]

Not a great resume. Shouldve stuck with the guy Nolan picked. You got 6 movies that grossed more than $700 million. 4 crossed $800 million. 2 crossed a billion. Not bad. Everyone tried to pretend BvS bombed with fans despite an $850 million haul but then people showed up to watch Suicide Squad which made almost $800 million. They said everyone hated SS but then Wonder Woman made $1 billion. The Justice League came out and flopped thanks to WB execs and Whedon, but still made over $700 million. Once again they said DC is done for but then Aquaman came out and made another billion. It's like they got sucked into believing this alternate reality where people didnt like these movies even though they kept making almost a billion dollars every time.

Snyder's casting choices were very inspired. Henry Cavill IS Superman. Affleck turned out to be amazing. Mamoa is perfect and Gadot was surprisingly good. Only Ezra is looking like a poor choice but no one wouldve know the guy was a nutjob in real life 6 years ago. And he did nail that speed force scene so its not like Snyder totally fucked up that casting. Yes Patty Jenkins and James Wan knocked it out of the park with their solo movies, but it was Snyder who casted all these actors. Ridiculous decision removing him just because of some marvel fanboys masquerading as movie critics.

 

[bitbydeath]

I hated everything about it, the CGI shit that made every supposedly scary scene look comical, the characters that pretty much had no development or time to breathe in a long ass film because it was too busy jumping from one scary scene to another, the pointless story that repeats what happened in the first one. It's the Marvel of horror flicks: Expensive, hollow, formulaic, full of CGI shit and completely forgettable.

That’s just how fantasy works.

 

[KyoZz]

Not a great resume. Shouldve stuck with the guy Nolan picked. You got 6 movies that grossed more than $700 million. 4 crossed $800 million. 2 crossed a billion. Not bad. Everyone tried to pretend BvS bombed with fans despite an $850 million haul but then people showed up to watch Suicide Squad which made almost $800 million. They said everyone hated SS but then Wonder Woman made $1 billion. The Justice League came out and flopped thanks to WB execs and Whedon, but still made over $700 million. Once again they said DC is done for but then Aquaman came out and made another billion. It's like they got sucked into believing this alternate reality where people didnt like these movies even though they kept making almost a billion dollars every time.

Snyder's casting choices were very inspired. Henry Cavill IS Superman. Affleck turned out to be amazing. Mamoa is perfect and Gadot was surprisingly good. Only Ezra is looking like a poor choice but no one wouldve know the guy was a nutjob in real life 6 years ago. And he did nail that speed force scene so its not like Snyder totally fucked up that casting. Yes Patty Jenkins and James Wan knocked it out of the park with their solo movies, but it was Snyder who casted all these actors. Ridiculous decision removing him just because of some marvel fanboys masquerading as movie critics.

Facts.

You are asking too much from SOME PEOPLE (see, me too I can be mysterious ManaByte ). The Batman made less than BvS, TSS flopped hard (wait for the excuse of COVID even when other movies performed just fine) and WW84 was dogshit. But they think, we are better without Snyder and Nolan.

The worst thing is when HamadaCultist pretend that the Snyder fans are the worst.
They see the speck in the neighbor's eye but not the beam in theirs.

 

[sankt-Antonio]

Give Tarantino a billion dollars to do this job for ten years.

 

[FunkMiller]

I really couldn’t care less about whatever suit they put in charge at this point. I want to see what their actual strategy is. I have zero confidence in any moves made by WBD at the moment because of the last few years.

 

[Ionian]

Give Tarantino a billion dollars to do this job for ten years.

The last thing Marvel needs is more self procrastinating dialogue. It has plenty.

 

[Star-Lord]

When you're at the absolute bottom of the well, the only way is up, right?

 

[jason10mm]

As said that's based off the depth and diversity of shows the MCU is currently producing to maintain and grow their market. There's the unspoken implication the audience is changing and they're adapting to it.

Trends in film have come and gone before.

Orrrrr

 

[Kraz]

Orrrrr

Natural for you to think so since that's how your opinions on shows you haven't watched are offered from the blogs that give you your opinions.


Or, taking the opportunity offered by your simpleton opinion to expand on my thoughtful considerations, it could also be mentioned that it takes effort to follow the shows. Worthwhile effort, since the shows are very enjoyable in the way they introduce new ideas along with the new characters they bring. (SIdenote: Besides the show itself I can't wait for the anti-woker activist freakout following Secret Invasion

. )

There will be a lot of satisfaction for viewers in the payoffs for their efforts in following these shows culminating in Secret Wars. Much like Endgame. There will remain a strong cohort for superhero movies(they're not going to disappear anymore than Star Wars), but the effort from a maturing audience has a strong potential from a desire for something different to be put to new interests.

 

[jason10mm]

Natural for you to think so since that's how your opinions on shows you haven't watched are offered.


Or, taking the opportunity offered by your simpleton opinion to expand on my thoughtful considerations, it could also be mentioned that it takes effort to follow the shows. Worthwhile effort, since the shows are very enjoyable in the way they introduce new ideas along with the new characters they bring. (SIdenote: Besides the show itself I can't wait for the anti-woker activist freakout following Secret Invasion

. )

There will be a lot of satisfaction for viewers in the payoffs for their efforts in following these shows culminating in Secret Wars. Much like Endgame. There will remain a strong cohort for superhero movies(they're not going to disappear anymore than Star Wars), but the effort from a maturing audience has a strong potential from a desire for something different to be put to new interests.

TLR

What was the viewership for Ms Marvel again???

What's the viewership for She-Hulk? Top or bottom of the list?

 

[Kraz]

TLR

What was the viewership for Ms Marvel again???

What's the viewership for She-Hulk? Top or bottom of the list?

You don't even know what point you're making.

 

[jason10mm]

You don't even know what point you're making.

The point is they are making shows for audiences that DON'T EXIST. The viewership scores reflect that.

Spin around a few more times and contemplate this.

 

[Kraz]

The point is they are making shows for audiences that DON'T EXIST. The viewership scores reflect that.

Spin around a few more times and contemplate this.

Your made up conclusions based on what you read on some blog. No thanks. You can keep your crazy to yourself.

You could think however about how what you're saying applies to DC and this thread.

 

[jason10mm]

Your made up conclusions based on what you read on some blog. No thanks. You can keep your crazy to yourself.

You could think however about how what you're saying applies to DC and this thread.

Objective viewership numbers are, and always been, a measure of popularity. So if a show gets low numbers compared to similar shows, one can ONLY deduce that it is less popular, I.e. there isn't an audience for it or that audience doesn't like it.

Not "crazy" at all, how could you POSSIBLY come up with that retort?

As for DC, if they go back to classic storytelling, honoring their characters, then they will likely be successful. The animated side of DC has been KILLING IT for DECADES. Chasing social media trends is the death of quality.

Can you now try to refute my argument, preferably with something like an actual fact, instead of attacking me personally? If you wanna throw down that way then please, let us have a seperate rumble thread until it gets locked and we get a little time out ban.

Takhisis would approve.

 

[Kraz]

Objective viewership numbers are, and always been, a measure of popularity. So if a show gets low numbers compared to similar shows, one can ONLY deduce that it is less popular, I.e. there isn't an audience for it or that audience doesn't like it.

Not "crazy" at all, how could you POSSIBLY come up with that retort?

As for DC, if they go back to classic storytelling, honoring their characters, then they will likely be successful. The animated side of DC has been KILLING IT for DECADES. Chasing social media trends is the death of quality.

Can you now try to refute my argument, preferably with something like an actual fact, instead of attacking me personally? If you wanna throw down that way then please, let us have a seperate rumble thread until it gets locked and we get a little time out ban.

Takhisis would approve.

You didn't have an argument. You had a stat without context or providing factors for it. Undoubtedly knowing how you think it will likely lead to one conclusion for you and no need to say it you're predictable.

 

[jason10mm]

You didn't have an argument. You had a stat without context or providing factors for it. Undoubtedly knowing how you think it will likely lead to one conclusion for you and no need to say it you're predictable.

I see. You won't, or can't engage. That's all right, its a pretty petty debate in the first place. You like what you like, I will like what I like. The free market will determine who gets more content that pleases them.

 

[SlimySnake]

Facts.

You are asking too much from SOME PEOPLE (see, me too I can be mysterious ManaByte ). The Batman made less than BvS, TSS flopped hard (wait for the excuse of COVID even when other movies performed just fine) and WW84 was dogshit. But they think, we are better without Snyder and Nolan.

The worst thing is when HamadaCultist pretend that the Snyder fans are the worst.
They see the speck in the neighbor's eye but not the beam in theirs.

Whats depressing is that Snyder's plot for Justice League 2 was fascinating. He was going all out and the ending wouldve given us arguably the best Superman movie where Cavil finally takes over Justice League. It's a shame the execs couldnt see the potential in that.

This is where having someone like Feige over at DC wouldve really helped because they ended up doing exactly what Snyder had plotted for Justice League 2. Going back in time to right the wrongs just like they did in End Game. And yet, DC execs balked at the idea while Feige embraced it.

 

[FunkMiller]

Whats depressing is that Snyder's plot for Justice League 2 was fascinating. He was going all out and the ending wouldve given us arguably the best Superman movie where Cavil finally takes over Justice League. It's a shame the execs couldnt see the potential in that.

This is where having someone like Feige over at DC wouldve really helped because they ended up doing exactly what Snyder had plotted for Justice League 2. Going back in time to right the wrongs just like they did in End Game. And yet, DC execs balked at the idea while Feige embraced it.

All well and good, but BvS was a critical failure, and underperformed for a movie starring Batman and Superman. Regardless of who was to blame, their hubris at literally starting JL filming the day after BvS came out, bit them deservedly on the arse. BvS needed to be better. It wasn’t.

You don’t get to have a successful shared universe if you greedily rush like fuck to grab some of the other guy’s box office.