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[Sneakysnake]

Sara Bond stopped short of saying that the next COD will launch directly into gamepass because...

1. Perhaps those marketing rights that Sony had in place are STILL not up

2. They are simply waiting to announce it at the showcase. This is their huge pop (one of many).

Sara did say that all the first party games are launching into Gamepass so that is actually confirmation, but there is obviously some reason why she won't name COD specifically.

It's funny to me that half of GAF is acting like they think there is some chance that it won't launch into game pass. I mean I kind of get it. Gamepass is already such a ridiculously good value it's almost unbelievable that we can get everything we are getting this year for $17 a month on top of what we already have. Honestly, I feel blessed. We will never see a value like this again. Enjoy it while it lasts.

 

[rm082e]

They can change their minds at any minute, and they won't let on that they're mulling it over. They'll always give you confident PR corporate speak with whatever message they are putting out, even if it's two messages 3 hours apart that say opposite things.

 

[reinking]

Sara Bond stopped short of saying that the next COD will launch directly into gamepass because...

1. Perhaps those marketing rights that Sony had in place are STILL not up

2. They are simply waiting to announce it at the showcase. This is their huge pop (one of many).

Sara did say that all the first party games are launching into Gamepass so that is actually confirmation, but there is obviously some reason why she won't name COD specifically.

It's funny to me that half of GAF is acting like they think there is some chance that it won't launch into game pass. I mean I kind of get it. Gamepass is already such a ridiculously good value it's almost unbelievable that we can get everything we are getting this year for $17 a month on top of what we already have. Honestly, I feel blessed. We will never see a value like this again. Enjoy it while it lasts.

 

[Big Baller]

 

[Cyberpunkd]

Sara did say that all the first party games are launching into Gamepass so that is actually confirmation

What's the definition of "first party games" according to Sara B?

C'mon GAF, you are better than that?

 

[Fahdis]

 

[feynoob]

SlimySnake
Can your moustache explain this to us?

 

[SHA]

Tactics for showing value in the last minute before the new pricing of the service.

 

[clarky]

Sara B? Some sort of 6th Spice Girl or some shit?

 

[Miyazaki’s Slave]

The hand placement in this picture provides a ridiculous amount of insight into the state of the management team (at least to me in my "joy is dead" brain).

P3 must have the an awful time navigating the quagmire of bullshit his department has become. No wonder he cannot focus on running a business when he has to spend some much headspace/cycles on today's social Ps & Qs.

Or...maybe he just doesn't want cooties.

 

[Sneakysnake]

Easiest game of F, marry, kill ever

 

[Dacvak]

I mean I kind of get it. Gamepass is already such a ridiculously good value it's almost unbelievable that we can get everything we are getting this year for $17 a month on top of what we already have. Honestly, I feel blessed. We will never see a value like this again.

 

[Sneakysnake]

The hand placement in this picture provides a ridiculous amount of insight into the state of the management team (at least to me in my "joy is dead" brain).

P3 must have the an awful time navigating the quagmire of bullshit his department has become. No wonder he cannot focus on running a business when he has to spend some much headspace/cycles on today's social Ps & Qs.

Or...maybe he just doesn't want cooties.

Just wait until you find out where his left hand was

 

[King Dazzar]

Sara Bond stopped short of saying that the next COD will launch directly into gamepass because...

1. Perhaps those marketing rights that Sony had in place are STILL not up

2. They are simply waiting to announce it at the showcase. This is their huge pop (one of many).

Sara did say that all the first party games are launching into Gamepass so that is actually confirmation, but there is obviously some reason why she won't name COD specifically.

It's funny to me that half of GAF is acting like they think there is some chance that it won't launch into game pass. I mean I kind of get it. Gamepass is already such a ridiculously good value it's almost unbelievable that we can get everything we are getting this year for $17 a month on top of what we already have. Honestly, I feel blessed. We will never see a value like this again. Enjoy it while it lasts.

If they're being savvy. You'd think they either ramp up GPU top tier pricing before hand and include it only in that top tier. Or, they release a bare bones version with a heavy handed push towards battlepasses/micro transactions etc. Either way I cant imagine they're not heavily scrutinising the financials around it all.

They could always perk it too. For example, you still have to buy CoD, but if you have GP, then you get free skins and early access...

 

[King Dazzar]

Easiest game of F, marry, kill ever

Cyborgs are not so easy to kill...

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

Thank goodness she didn’t. Give the doom crew all the chances to spin

 

[baphomet]

$17 a month to rent mainly old games.

What a deal

 

[rodrigolfp]

Because until there they still can sell tons of copies?

 

[Banjo64]

Phil just needs to grasp that ass. The hover hand game is laughable.

 

[Gameplay Gods Bless]

Easiest game of F, marry, kill ever

Fuck Bond, Marry Booty, Kill Spencer

 

[Nydius]

It's funny to me that half of GAF is acting like they think there is some chance that it won't launch into game pass.

It's funny because... we understand finance?

Putting COD on Game Pass absolutely undermines the entire profitability of the franchise -- aka one of the reasons Microsoft gobbled up ABK in the first place. Let's say, for the sake of argument, that hypothetically 18 million or so people who have Game Pass are also COD players. Instead of buying COD, they'll just get it "free" on Game Pass without spending a dollar more than what they've already paid. 18 million potentially lost sales at $70 a pop. That's 1.26 BILLION in lost sales. More than Game Pass earns Microsoft in a quarter.

The number of people who will buy it on PlayStation platforms remains roughly the same. The number of people who will buy it on Xbox platforms will significantly decrease. You really believe COD alone is going to drive enough new Game Pass subscriptions to cover the loss?

As to your primary topic question, the reason she didn't come right out and say it can be answered in two words:
Plausible deniability.

 

[Pop]

Xbox does like losing money

So why not! Add all the CODs on gamepass

 

[Three]

It's funny because... we understand finance?

Putting COD on Game Pass absolutely undermines the entire profitability of the franchise -- aka one of the reasons Microsoft gobbled up ABK in the first place. Let's say, for the sake of argument, that hypothetically 18 million or so people who have Game Pass are also COD players. Instead of buying COD, they'll just get it "free" on Game Pass without spending a dollar more than what they've already paid. 18 million potentially lost sales at $70 a pop. That's 1.26 BILLION in lost sales. More than Game Pass earns Microsoft in a quarter.

The number of people who will buy it on PlayStation platforms remains roughly the same. The number of people who will buy it on Xbox platforms will significantly decrease. You really believe COD alone is going to drive enough new Game Pass subscriptions to cover the loss?

As to your primary topic question, the reason she didn't come right out and say it can be answered in two words:
Plausible deniability.

Honestly, it will probably come to gamepass and be riddled with more expensive mtx as normal. They might even introduce a more costly tier that includes a season pass. She just wants the attention in June and people talking about it until then. That's why she didn't say it explicitly.

 

[Sneakysnake]

It's funny because... we understand finance?

Putting COD on Game Pass absolutely undermines the entire profitability of the franchise -- aka one of the reasons Microsoft gobbled up ABK in the first place. Let's say, for the sake of argument, that hypothetically 18 million or so people who have Game Pass are also COD players. Instead of buying COD, they'll just get it "free" on Game Pass without spending a dollar more than what they've already paid. 18 million potentially lost sales at $70 a pop. That's 1.26 BILLION in lost sales. More than Game Pass earns Microsoft in a quarter.

The number of people who will buy it on PlayStation platforms remains roughly the same. The number of people who will buy it on Xbox platforms will significantly decrease. You really believe COD alone is going to drive enough new Game Pass subscriptions to cover the loss?

As to your primary topic question, the reason she didn't come right out and say it can be answered in two words:
Plausible deniability.

I'm just saying they are putting that shit on gamepass day one. Maybe you're right and it's a terrible idea but they're doin it lol

 

[Kssio_Aug]

Because it would do more harm than good. She clearly stated that every first party will still be going to GP, and that's all that needs to be said right now about it.

And even if she said it, people would still be saying "Ohh, but they lied before, so I don't trust her!". It's a game she can't win.

Now, if that's gonna be good or bad for CoD and Xbox, it's another matter. Maybe that's why they're apparently planning new GP subscription tiers.

 

[semiconscious]

$17 a month to rent mainly old games.

What a deal

hey, you're looking at this the wrong way. it's really all about the '$17 twice a year to play the 2 big triple-a exclusives you're actually interested in'...

 

[TidusYuna]

Its not Sara B.

Its Bond, Sara Bond.

 

[T-0800]

$17 a month to rent mainly old games.

What a deal

No no no, they aren't rentals they are free games. I used to get free movies from Blockbuster as well. In exchange for money.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

simple my friend. Xbox is bleeding money each month and GP is a big factor for that.
Once they do the math on Chat GPT there is only one scenario possible

Kill Game Pass.

and you can take that to the bank

 

[Dr. Wilkinson]

Sara Bond stopped short of saying that the next COD will launch directly into gamepass because...

1. Perhaps those marketing rights that Sony had in place are STILL not up

2. They are simply waiting to announce it at the showcase. This is their huge pop (one of many).

Sara did say that all the first party games are launching into Gamepass so that is actually confirmation, but there is obviously some reason why she won't name COD specifically.

It's funny to me that half of GAF is acting like they think there is some chance that it won't launch into game pass. I mean I kind of get it. Gamepass is already such a ridiculously good value it's almost unbelievable that we can get everything we are getting this year for $17 a month on top of what we already have. Honestly, I feel blessed. We will never see a value like this again. Enjoy it while it lasts.

Her interview wasn’t to make breaking news. Hence no official announcement

 

[Pelta88]

Because it won’t be in GP.

 

[Sneakysnake]

Because it won’t be in GP.

I'll talk to you on June 9!

 

[Sneakysnake]

simple my friend. Xbox is bleeding money each month and GP is a big factor for that.
Once they do the math on Chat GPT there is only one scenario possible

Kill Game Pass.

and you can take that to the bank

I'll talk to you on June 9!

 

[digital_ghost]

I'll talk to you on June 9!

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

I'll talk to you on June 9!

they are crunching the numbers as we speak.

 

[Beechos]

Because this is what all execs do. They all say things in a non commital way and always spin things in a positive light.

 

[MayauMiao]

Is that representing the GP fans or the CoD devs?

 

[ShadowkillXNA]

Sara Bond stopped short of saying that the next COD will launch directly into gamepass because...

1. Perhaps those marketing rights that Sony had in place are STILL not up

2. They are simply waiting to announce it at the showcase. This is their huge pop (one of many).

Sara did say that all the first party games are launching into Gamepass so that is actually confirmation, but there is obviously some reason why she won't name COD specifically.

It's funny to me that half of GAF is acting like they think there is some chance that it won't launch into game pass. I mean I kind of get it. Gamepass is already such a ridiculously good value it's almost unbelievable that we can get everything we are getting this year for $17 a month on top of what we already have. Honestly, I feel blessed. We will never see a value like this again. Enjoy it while it lasts.

It's good value for YOU.
Value is always subjective.

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

simple my friend. Xbox is bleeding money each month and GP is a big factor for that.
Once they do the math on Chat GPT there is only one scenario possible

Kill Game Pass.

and you can take that to the bank

 

[ShadowkillXNA]

I'm just saying they are putting that shit on gamepass day one. Maybe you're right and it's a terrible idea but they're doin it lol

Or, they're not.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

again funny guy.

if you use Logic 101...2016 Strategy + Current State of Xbox + Financial pressures + GP´s requirements to be viable = Game pass doesn't make any sense.

They are already doing funny things with Core and pay to play early.

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

again funny guy.

if you use Logic 101...2016 Strategy + Current State of Xbox + Financial pressures + GP´s requirements to be viable = Game pass doesn't make any sense.

This is just word salad, you don’t know what any of this means and even if you did, you don’t have a clue what any of the numbers are.

Logic 101

They are already doing funny things with Core and pay to play early.

I see some of you perpetual doomsday posters throwing out this “pay to play early” stuff and just right now you said it in a way that implies it’s some new strategy or a reaction to numbers. Xbox has done the whole “gold edition = a few days early” stuff before GamePass and all throughout GamePass. No one really cared or noticed until Starfield but it’s not something new. Hell, State of Decay 2 all the way back in 2018 was one of the first day one titles on GamePass and I bought the Ultimate Edition which allowed 4-5 days of early play or something. It’s not new and outside of Nintendo, virtually every publisher does it.

And what’s funny about Xbox Core? Is it also funny when Nintendo makes changes to their online service, or when Sony makes three tiers to their service? All of these sub services make changes to provide better experiences and get more money from you.

Per usual, you’re trying to play chess when the game is Candy Land. It’s not difficult stuff, but I love watching you guys twist yourselves like pretzels with all this nonsense.

Not going to bother responding to you again here, but please keep it up

 

[jwaxeman]

My three best friends posting photos on Instagram of the party they went to without me

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

This is just word salad, you don’t know what any of this means and even if you did, you don’t have a clue what any of the numbers are.

Logic 101



I see some of you perpetual doomsday posters throwing out this “pay to play early” stuff and just right now you said it in a way that implies it’s some new strategy or a reaction to numbers. Xbox has done the whole “gold edition = a few days early” stuff before GamePass and all throughout GamePass. No one really cared or noticed until Starfield but it’s not something new. Hell, State of Decay 2 all the way back in 2018 was one of the first day one titles on GamePass and I bought the Ultimate Edition which allowed 4-5 days of early play or something. It’s not new and outside of Nintendo, virtually every publisher does it.

And what’s funny about Xbox Core? Is it also funny when Nintendo makes changes to their online service, or when Sony makes three tiers to their service? All of these sub services make changes to provide better experiences and get more money from you.

Per usual, you’re trying to play chess when the game is Candy Land. It’s not difficult stuff, but I love watching you guys twist yourselves like pretzels with all this nonsense.

Not going to bother responding to you again here, but please keep it up

at least I'm basing my opinions on reasoning and not on the empty promises from executives and the logic used by shills, and of course, at this point, I expect pro Game Pass/Xbox people not to respond or debate because they have been destroyed like my waifus in my favorites hentai .

 

[I'm nobody]

Why do people mull for it to be on game pass can't you afford to game??

 

[Hardensoul]

simple my friend. Xbox is bleeding money each month and GP is a big factor for that.
Once they do the math on Chat GPT there is only one scenario possible

Kill Game Pass.

and you can take that to the bank

Yup! Microsoft Gaming needs to make money!

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Yup! Microsoft Gaming needs to make money!

basically the words from Phil and Sarah

 

[MrRenegade]

It's funny because... we understand finance?

Putting COD on Game Pass absolutely undermines the entire profitability of the franchise -- aka one of the reasons Microsoft gobbled up ABK in the first place. Let's say, for the sake of argument, that hypothetically 18 million or so people who have Game Pass are also COD players. Instead of buying COD, they'll just get it "free" on Game Pass without spending a dollar more than what they've already paid. 18 million potentially lost sales at $70 a pop. That's 1.26 BILLION in lost sales. More than Game Pass earns Microsoft in a quarter.

The number of people who will buy it on PlayStation platforms remains roughly the same. The number of people who will buy it on Xbox platforms will significantly decrease. You really believe COD alone is going to drive enough new Game Pass subscriptions to cover the loss?

As to your primary topic question, the reason she didn't come right out and say it can be answered in two words:
Plausible deniability.

Yeah, but CoD is an online game, right? So in order to recuperate the 70$ price you need people to pay gamepass for 4 months. They see the metrics, if people play the game for more than that, then it's net profit for them.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

net profit for them

 

[Mephisto40]

I think the more likely scenario with this is that they'll make the online part of gamepass, and then charge you £30 extra if you want to play the campaign