It all comes down to personal preference really. I don't like Twelve and I'd rather not see him playable again (note playable) but if someone out there really likes him then who are we to say he should never be in a Street Fighter game again?
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Why is Third Strike the end of Street Fighter's story?
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It all comes down to personal preference really. I don't like Twelve and I'd rather not see him playable again (note playable) but if someone out there really likes him then who are we to say he should never be in a Street Fighter game again?
RiderKairuu
Member
I want them to move past 3rd Strike and give us playable Mel and an older Sean..
He dies at the end of SFA3's story mode as well. So what?
I actually laughed out loud at this.
cj_iwakura
Member
Alpha 2 is my favorite. All the character stories are personal. It's not everybody fixated on Bison all the time.
The Lone Dragon
Member
When Dhalsim was revealed in SF5, people weren't exactly jumping for joy...
Marvel
could never
LED butterflies are in V's
I like Gen but I know he's not a priority for Capcom
Dhalsim at the very least has legacy on his side and is a fighting game icon.
Z..
Member
Charlie killed him? I remember he eventually triumphs over Bison near the end but for some reason I never came away thinking he was dead.
Imperfected
Member
If you set a game post-SF4 but pre-SF3 you basically have access to the entire roster (including most if not all of 3S itself). Pretty much a no-brainer option, especially when you're shifting into a completely new release paradigm/monetization in terms of additional content (the Season DLC model vs. full release revisions) and don't really know how many characters you're going to be adding post-release initially.
I want Necro and Twelve in. But human Necro, and maybe Ten or Eleven instead of twelve. I've seen this sentiment elsewhere too.
Have to be honest, wouldn't be that excited to see Remy come back, but he fit well in the 3S roster.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
The formula for reviving dead storylines is time travel.
Tizoc
Member
He also dies in the nd of super turbo
Vital Tundra
Member
Beats me. Just because the story doesn't include Bison doesn't mean Bison can't be playable noncanonically.
Just to be clear, no one is dead in 3, who wasn't already dead in 2Alpha. Nobody who was retconned back to life in 4/V are ever mentioned in 3.
The reason characters don't show up in 3 is because they just aren't in the game. 3 is like Alpha, where a bunch of random fighters wander around doing their own thing, and sometimes some of them meet each other. In a theoretical 4th Strike, every character in the franchise (except Gen/Charlie because of V) could show up without retcons.
The reason characters don't show up in 3 is because they just aren't in the game. 3 is like Alpha, where a bunch of random fighters wander around doing their own thing, and sometimes some of them meet each other. In a theoretical 4th Strike, every character in the franchise (except Gen/Charlie because of V) could show up without retcons.
Rickenslacker
Banned
I would hate for Elena getting that kind of collateral damage due to how terrible 4 was.
I'd be pretty hyped for Necro though. He's more interesting a design than either Dhalsim or Blanka. People can hate some of the 3S additions, but 2 still had the likes of freakin' T. Hawk and Deejay.
Aside from people admiring her idle animation, she was basically a complete non-entity during 3. Nobody cared. Nobody celebrated her return in SFxT or her port over to USF4.
She is hated now because she was broken in the later days of 4, but Chun Li isn't hated and she was way more broken for the entirety of 3S.
No clue. As someone who skimmed through the unofficial compilation of SF canon before SFIV's release, there would be nothing truly problematic about a Street Fighter set in the 2010s, let alone the early 2000s.
Age of the most popular SF characters in 2010 (year of birth in brackets):
Ryu (1964) - 46
Ken (1965) - 45
Chun Li (1968) - 42
Guile (1960) - 50
Zangief (1956) - 54
Dhalsim - (1952) - 58
Sagat (1955) - 55
Balrog (1968) - 42
Vega (1967) - 43
Bison (unknown) - Who cares, dude swaps bodies at will and could look the way he did in SF2 for centuries.
Cammy (1974) - 36
Akuma (1945?) - 65, which is pretty old but just like other fictional martial arts masters, Akuma only gets stronger as he ages.
Sakura (1973) - 37
Karin (1973) - 37
Juri (25 in 1994) - 39
While some may be getting up there in age, remember that these are literally superhuman martial arts masters, and that they exist in a series where a 140 year-old man flies around the globe by riding on top of a commercial jet.
Age of the most popular SF characters in 2010 (year of birth in brackets):
Ryu (1964) - 46
Ken (1965) - 45
Chun Li (1968) - 42
Guile (1960) - 50
Zangief (1956) - 54
Dhalsim - (1952) - 58
Sagat (1955) - 55
Balrog (1968) - 42
Vega (1967) - 43
Bison (unknown) - Who cares, dude swaps bodies at will and could look the way he did in SF2 for centuries.
Cammy (1974) - 36
Akuma (1945?) - 65, which is pretty old but just like other fictional martial arts masters, Akuma only gets stronger as he ages.
Sakura (1973) - 37
Karin (1973) - 37
Juri (25 in 1994) - 39
While some may be getting up there in age, remember that these are literally superhuman martial arts masters, and that they exist in a series where a 140 year-old man flies around the globe by riding on top of a commercial jet.
For good,
SFV
Rickenslacker
Banned
Oops, somehow I completely read the first version of the post with Necro in mind.
I still cared about Elena. She was a lot of fun to play but didn't translate well into how stiff and rigid everything about 4 was. She was like a less creepy Cammy, and her stage was great (2I, not the one from 3S).
If they really need to get a character in after everyone has supposedly aged too much (and don't want an Overwatch "All Old Dudes" scenario), oh no, Shadaloo swapped their body with a pupil. Or, before it's destruction, Shadaloo made a robot version of that character's fighting style.
disappeared
Banned
Is Cammy still alive post-sf3?
Lights and Waves
Member
She's alive in Final Fight Streetwise which happens 7 years after III:3S, so yes.
Do you think an Ultra Street Fighter III: Third Strike would sell better on the Switch than Ultra Street Fighter II because of its graphical and mechanical enhancements, or worse because it doesn't play nearly to the level of nostalgia as 2?
Edit: swapped perform with sell. Edited hypothetical title.
Edit: swapped perform with sell. Edited hypothetical title.
disappeared
Banned
Guessing you never played Canon Spike for the Dreamcast?
Thank god. <3
SiegfriedFM
Member
Third Strike took place in 1998, so there's tons of time to have fighters reappearing after it without being too old. Although I don't think they'll even bother with years anymore.
Lights and Waves
Member
I feel like she dies in every game appararence she's had. I still don't understand her relation to Bison, but the good sis deserves better.
I'm of the same mindset.
Yup, Bison is legit dead as of the SFV General Story. Also, it seems like Gen dies in Akuma's SFV story.
zenspider
Member
I think it's more that the roster is hamstrung by the timeline rather than anyone (most) caring about the story.
SFV has done a good job so far of bringing in SFIII elements and setting up a post-3S future should they want.
zenspider
Member
Worse now with where the fanbase is, but down the road? Wow. Didn't even know how bad I'd want that. Evil Yun and Violent Yang incoming.
DryEyeRelief
Member
I don't see what's so funny.
Story didnt make it so that sfv had 5000 entrants at evo.
Story isnt the reason sfv is on tbs now.
I hate that Capcom has to cater to casuals that play the game wrong.
Instead of story they should dedicate their resources to what actually matters, like the FGC.
Anecdotally, you'll find people who cared for every character in every fighting game ever.
People just weren't playing much of these characters, and when it came to demand for these characters to join new games, most of them don't have tons of people pushing for their inclusion.
People seriously have an issue with playing fictional characters that are 50+ years of age? I find that to be one of Overwatch's more admirable traits, and would be fine if the veterans of SFII's cast reflect their age.
Eolz
Member
USF3 wouldn't sell more, mainly due to nostalgia and the mainstream appeal, but it would still sell, just to a different audience.
Although I fear a lot of those hardcore fans would snob it for being on Switch.
No, but it's the reason that SFV is a sales failure for Capcom. They've been trying for a year to make the game more appealing to a mainstream audience again.
Lights and Waves
Member
Your post is making me upset. I really hope this is sarcasm.
lol.
SF4 and SF5's entire game design principle was to make the game more accessible to casual audiences. SF4 included comeback mechanics and brought the game back to a place that more closely resembled SF2. SF5 included an input buffer to remove execution barriers for shitty players who couldn't even comprehend hitting one frame links.
They tried to have the best of both worlds and got shit on mainstream audiences and press who didn't see enough content to justify the full retail price. Had it been a $30 release, marketed to the core and not to millions - it would have avoided early bad press and been perceived in an entirely different way.
The future of fighting games is in the esport realm. Not selling millions to casuals who will not buy all the DLC, who will not support the Pro Tour, who will not play the game past it's release window.
Lights and Waves
Member
Mortal Kombat and Injustice take a massive shit all over your argument.