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Will The Nintendo Switch 2 Be A Success.
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SweetTooth
Gold Member
Yes? Its a proven formula and it doesn't have to sell Switch numbers to be success.
Mozza
Member
True, but I was thinking do we think it could reach or even surppass the original.
Onironauta
Member
It might not sell as well as the original Switch, but it won't be a failure for sure.
It has no meaningful competition (no, PC handhelds don't count, they are niche devices and they target a different user base).
It has no meaningful competition (no, PC handhelds don't count, they are niche devices and they target a different user base).
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LordOcidax
Member
No you said "sucess".
This is a different discusion if it will reach or surpass. Those would both mean sucess.
mansoor1980
Gold Member
definitely , the BC with the original switch guarantees that.
Mozza
Member
Define failure...
Fess
Member
Yeah, Nintendo don’t do any spreading out bs like the other two, if you want to play the next big Nintendo game you’ll need a Switch 2 and that means it’ll sell like crazy.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Probably.
Robb
Gold Member
Same could be said about 3DS which “only” sold 50% of the DS. I’ve seen plenty of arguments over the years that it was a failure due to that drop-off, despite it obviously making Nintendo loads of money.
Shifty1897
Member
Will it be a success? Yes, absolutely. Will it sell the same number of units as the OG Switch? No, not at all. Maybe 100 million sold lifetime, depending on how much of a dent Sony and Microsoft make in the handheld market and how soon they release something in that space.
Unknown?
Member
No. It will still do 100+ but instead of 150M, probably 110m.
Eh the software didn't help GameCube or WiiU.
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Mozza
Member
I think we are splitting hairs...
Mozza
Member
I do not think we are comparing apples with apples here.... could be wrong.
Robb
Gold Member
the original post
mansoor1980
Gold Member
that right there is success
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SweetTooth
Gold Member
Sure it wont have N64, Gamecube or WiiU numbers.
And It won't need to sell Switch numbers to be a success, just like PS5 wont need yo sell PS2 numbers to be a success.. in fact PS5 is the most successful Playstation for Sony.
Mozza
Member
Ohh you tease...
Robb
Gold Member
I agree. But loosing 50% of your customer base isn’t. Which is why it’s important do define what kind of success we mean.
If we’re only talking financially the WiiU probably made them money as well. And that’s hardly considered a success.
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I see it as a DS -> 3DS situation.
Super safe upgrade, they didn't want to risk the farm on a completely new gimmick, but at the same time it won't take off like it happens when a completely new idea takes the mainstream market by storm.
Also and hopefully there won't be a new pandemic to give an unprecedented two years free boost to sales.
Super safe upgrade, they didn't want to risk the farm on a completely new gimmick, but at the same time it won't take off like it happens when a completely new idea takes the mainstream market by storm.
Also and hopefully there won't be a new pandemic to give an unprecedented two years free boost to sales.
saintjules
Gold Member
Is a Frog's butt watertight?
Thaimasker
Member
I don't see how Microsoft will make any dent. All their games will be coming to switch 2. They have almost no brand presence globally anymore. It's gonna be super niche.
As for the topic... A console with Nintendo full support and the 3rd party support this will get cannot not be a huge success
130 mil lifetime is my bet
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Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
I think it will. It's a proven concept that everyone else wants to imitate, and Nintendo mercifully played it safe. No stupid gimmicks (the mouse thing is a viable addition) and proper branding that can't be mistaken for a new controller or something like that. Pricing is the only part of the equation they could bungle, but I think the market's going to accept a more expensive device - even at $400-450, it's still much cheaper than just about any other gadget with a screen these days.
Little Mac
Gold Member
It really depends on the price. Switch 1 launched at $299. Switch 2 being more than $350 - $399 for what it is would concern me.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
No.
It'll be a mega success.
It'll be a mega success.
Billy Awesomo
Neo Member
The handheld market has grown a lot since the Switch launched, with way more competition now. For the Switch 2 to succeed, Nintendo needs to be more aggressive—secure exclusive third-party games, lean on their strong first-party lineup, and make the console stand out with unique experiences. Ubisoft might be up for sale (I think), an uncharacteristic move for Nintendo (if they buy), but it could expand their lineup with games they’d never make themselves. Food for thought. Over all I think the Switch can be successful, but it will be harder this time.
Also they could follow the 3DS playbook: wait for Sony or Microsoft to drop their handhelds, then undercut them with a price drop. (And yes, I’m convinced that was 100% intentional last time! lol).
Also they could follow the 3DS playbook: wait for Sony or Microsoft to drop their handhelds, then undercut them with a price drop. (And yes, I’m convinced that was 100% intentional last time! lol).
dcx4610
Member
Unless you are Apple, you have to give people a reason to upgrade. They did the smart thing with the name but what does it offer over what you currently have? The Switch appeals to a lot of casual gamers and the footage shown of Mario Kart looks like...Mario Kart. If you already have Mario Kart and a Switch, are you going to spend hundreds of dollars on a new machine to play games that only look marginally better?
They are going to need some gimmicks and exclusives to convince people to buy new hardware.
They are going to need some gimmicks and exclusives to convince people to buy new hardware.
PauloRoberto
Member
What is success? Really, that is not a rethorical question, the definition of success changes here at NeoGaf dependng on the subject.
No BBC=Anger
Member
Guess they'll sell enough to be happy about but over the long term do the youth still love Nintendo? I'm out of the loop here. I know Minecraft, Fortnite etc are really popular with them.
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HogIsland
Member
they're popular on PC obv, but they're also very popular on switch 1.
Midn1ght
Member
Yes, I think it'll be a big success.
Can it beat or get close to Switch number? I don't know about that.
I can't see them going 7-8 years with that thing, they'll need something new in 5 years when PS6 and RTX 7000 will be around.
I know Nintendo plays in its own league and that graphics are not everything but god damn, PS4 pro level hardware in 2030 is wild to think about.
They could release a Switch 2 Pro in 3-4 years, though.
Can it beat or get close to Switch number? I don't know about that.
I can't see them going 7-8 years with that thing, they'll need something new in 5 years when PS6 and RTX 7000 will be around.
I know Nintendo plays in its own league and that graphics are not everything but god damn, PS4 pro level hardware in 2030 is wild to think about.
They could release a Switch 2 Pro in 3-4 years, though.
Rockondevil
Member
Seems obvious but it’ll be a success but not likely to do the mega numbers of the Switch. Which is fine as a success is a success.
But I guess we’ll find out in several years how it’s doing.
But I guess we’ll find out in several years how it’s doing.