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[Busty]

Yes, Sony and Channel 4 (UK) already have a deal in place as I understand it. They are talking to a major German broadcaster as well for a dubbed version. For Channel 4 it replaces The Tomorrow People.

Good grief. I feel a rant brewing but I don't have the time. But it does feel a little cheap of Sony to make such an unusually big deal of Powers at what is now most definitely a global event when they only ever intended to 'air' it in the US.

Though to be fair I hear that this is the reason that Xbox is having such trouble mounting productions including the HALO 'mega series' because they couldn't make the sums work with a high end production debuting on a console streaming service. Which is probably why they are in talks with the likes of Showtime to debut the potential show.

But what is interesting is that Channel 4 are bringing in Powers but their own production (that android drama thing) is going the other way and debuting in America on Xbox Live.

Oh Television, you so crazy.

 

[KAL2006]

PS4 retail exclusive line up

2014
The Last of Us
Drive Club
Guilty Gear Xrd
LittleBigPlanet 3

2015
The Order
BloodBourne
Uncharted 4
Ratchet and Clank Redux


Microsoft exclusive retail line up

2014
Sunset OverDrive
Forza Horizon 2
Halo Master Chief Collection

2015
Fable Legends
Quantum Break
Halo 5

2016
Crackdown 3
Platinum Games New IP
Phantom Dust
Gears of War 4


Microsoft has more however I feel they announced games that are more far off.

 

[Hyunashi]

PS4 retail exclusive line up

2014
The Last of Us
Drive Club
Guilty Gear Xrd
LittleBigPlanet 3

2015
The Order
BloodBourne
Uncharted 4
Ratchet and Clank Redux


Microsoft exclusive retail line up

2014
Sunset OverDrive
Forza Horizon 2
Halo Master Chief Collection

2015
Fable Legends
Quantum Break
Halo 5

2016
Crackdown 3
Platinum Games New IP
Phantom Dust
Gears of War 4


Microsoft has more however I feel they announced games that are more far off.

With most of Sony WWS not being here this year, you gotta wonder how next E3 is gonna be too.

 

[driver116]

Good grief. I feel a rant brewing but I don't have the time. But it does feel a little cheap of Sony to make such an unusually big deal of Powers at what is now most definitely a global event when they only ever intended to 'air' it in the US.

Though to be fair I hear that this is the reason that Xbox is having such trouble mounting productions including the HALO 'mega series' because they couldn't make the sums work with a high end production debuting on a console streaming service. Which is probably why they are in talks with the likes of Showtime to debut the potential show.

But what is interesting is that Channel 4 are bringing in Powers but their own production (that android drama thing) is going the other way and debuting in America on Xbox Live.

Oh Television, you so crazy.

Aye, what Sony needs is its own video streaming service like Netflix - bulk it with their backcatalog and run their new shows exclusive on it. Or some variation

 

[TheKayle]

PS4 retail exclusive line up

2014
The Last of Us
Drive Club
Guilty Gear Xrd
LittleBigPlanet 3

2015
The Order
BloodBourne
Uncharted 4
Ratchet and Clank Redux


Microsoft exclusive retail line up

2014
Sunset OverDrive
Forza Horizon 2
Halo Master Chief Collection

2015
Fable Legends
Quantum Break
Halo 5

2016
Crackdown 3
Platinum Games New IP
Phantom Dust
Gears of War 4


Microsoft has more however I feel they announced games that are more far off.

ori and the blind forest should be another ms exclusive (and honestly one of the best game seen in all the conferences)

http://youtu.be/cklw-Yu3moE

 

[a.wd]

Bloodborne (kinda, I haven't played all the souls games)
Grim Fandango remaster
No Man's Sky

Were the only things that are exclusive that I gave a fuck about in that conference, the PS Vita TV thing was bullshit, in fact that whole segment just stank of "we have the lead in the market so here's some shit that we know you fuckers will buy! MINDSHARE BITCHES! Woo hoo we have jet skis!"

 

[Hoo-doo]

Seems like my PS4 will remain as a third party game console and my xbone will remain for those mouth watering exclusives

I'm curious, what new mouth-watering exclusives are these? I felt Microsoft dropped the ball harder on the exclusives front than Sony did.

 

[velociraptor]

PS4 retail exclusive line up

2014
The Last of Us
Drive Club
Guilty Gear Xrd
LittleBigPlanet 3

2015
The Order
BloodBourne
Uncharted 4
Ratchet and Clank Redux


Microsoft exclusive retail line up

2014
Sunset OverDrive
Forza Horizon 2
Halo Master Chief Collection

2015
Fable Legends
Quantum Break
Halo 5

2016
Crackdown 3
Platinum Games New IP
Phantom Dust
Gears of War 4


Microsoft has more however I feel they announced games that are more far off.

Next E3 will probably be packed.

Sony bend
Guerrilla Games
Sony Japan (TLG?)
Sony Santa Monica

I'm satisfied with the current line-up of games released though. Sony surprised me. If only their conferences weren't so damn boring. I predicted they would drone on and on and that's exactly what they've done, heh. lol.

 

[Wavering Radiant]

The content is there, but conference pacing's absolutely terrible. Some titles are misunderstanding (R&C Redux, Bloodborne).

Yup, felt the same, the structure was awful and they were still trying to ride that "we're not doing MS's mistakes", even though MS has done a real good turnaround.

But the content was blazing like last year and was enough to get me almost as pumped as last year.

 

[a.wd]

Also did I miss some uncharted stuff? Did they show some gameplay? Everyone is saying its the best thing they have ever seen, where can I watch it.

 

[FantasticMrFoxdie]

Also lots of weird editing and audio problems.

I blame the Scarecrow

 

[nature boy]

Just watched the Sony conference and I felt it was underwhelming. Too formal and too straight to business compared to Microsoft. Microsoft seemed more excited about showing games and outside of Boyes Sony felt a bit too cold.

And boy that 30 minutes with Shawn and Powers were really awful.

 

[Hyunashi]

Next E3 will probably be packed.

Sony bend
Guerrilla Games
Sony Japan (TLG?)
Sony Santa Monica

I'm satisfied with the current line-up of games released though. Sony surprised me. If only their conferences weren't so damn boring. I predicted they would drone on and on and that's exactly what they've done, heh. lol.

Believe it my friend, believe it.

Spoiler

Unless its at TGS this year!

 

[Sid]

Next E3 will probably be packed.

Sony bend
Guerrilla Games
Sony Japan (TLG?)
Sony Santa Monica

I'm satisfied with the current line-up of games released though. Sony surprised me. If only their conferences weren't so damn boring. I predicted they would drone on and on and that's exactly what they've done, heh. lol.

Don't do this.

 

[kenji_sama]

With most of Sony WWS not being here this year, you gotta wonder how next E3 is gonna be too.

Yeah, TLG will be there

Spoiler

please please

 

[Aarglefarg]

Regarding the LBP3 frame rate: I'm no expert in any of this, to which people can respond 'clearly'. What I'm thinking is that it could have a lot of physics calculations that would be hard to account for in the user-generated content, wouldn't locking it at a frame rate it could handle reliably be best, with it being more reliably able to handle 30 frames per second?

I remember there being a limit to how much you can put into a level in other LBP games. If the limit is lowered by having a fixed higher fps, I think that's worth it to lower the fps.

 

[Ravage]

Pretty good conference imo. My favourites are (in no particular order) Bloodborne, No Man's Sky, UC4 and Magicka 2.

 

[eXe]

If TLG is in "full production" right now, im 100% sure we will see it at E3 2015 if not sooner.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

Next E3 will probably be packed.

Sony bend
Guerrilla Games
Sony Japan (TLG?)
Sony Santa Monica

I'm satisfied with the current line-up of games released though. Sony surprised me. If only their conferences weren't so damn boring. I predicted they would drone on and on and that's exactly what they've done, heh. lol.

YESSS

 

[Puru]

I felt like i should have went to sleep instead, it was barely better than Microsoft conference.

Extremly disappointed, all i remember was the Bloodborne trailer (not even gameplay sequences).

 

[thekiddfran]

Also did I miss some uncharted stuff? Did they show some gameplay? Everyone is saying its the best thing they have ever seen, where can I watch it.

The official trailer is on youtube. There is no gameplay just a typical naughty dog cutscene but looks unbelievable.

 

[DagnastyEp]

The first hour of Sony's show was outstanding. The second hour was a mix of decent and extreme boring. Overall though, a great show.

I gotta say that Layden is a poor presenter, really didn't care for his stage presence. Andrew House did a decent job MCing most of the show.

 

[Empty]

such an awkwardly put together show. there was no real flow, no coherence and the superhero tv whatever thing was baffling. there was also tons of cringey cheering and lots of 'exclusive dlc and exclusive special editions' trumped as big deals which is lol. vib ribbon and the ratchet and clank announcement too. just bizarre. i saw ubisoft earlier which was fun and slick and they need to look at that for guidance when it comes to presenting their stuff.

in terms of real stuff they had some okay games. beast souls is great but the leak stole its thunder, happy to see stuff like grim fandango and now man's sky announced, uncharted's direction is promising. i felt they had a weaker show than microsoft which is disappointing but they also didn't need to announce a few years of first party games to do it.

 

[Uno Venova]

Don't do this.

You say that but 90% of this forum will be doing this in 364 days.

 

[Steiner84]

Sony did what they needed to do.
They have the momentum, why blast your load early when not in need to do so.
Good show.
Quite a few titles im interested in.
but uc4 trailer. this graphics, 1080p60, in game visuals?
never ever.
eating crow on that if real.

 

[TheSlySoul]

Yeah, I have a feeling next year will be what many people wanted this year.
- The Last Guardian
- FFXV
- KH3
- Ratchet and Clank
- Sly Cooper for 2016 (Go along with movie)
- New Sony IP
- Vib Ribbon Remake (The hinting would come full circle)
- God of War
- Battle Royal 2 with Crash teaser

As people pointed out, many games at MS will be shown again next year. I am worried that they did not have enough planned for 2015. Either way, Grim Fandango was the biggest news to me.

 

[Fallout-with-swords]

Aye, what Sony needs is its own video streaming service like Netflix - bulk it with their backcatalog and run their new shows exclusive on it. Or some variation

Oh god, no no no no no.

 

[zeromcd73]

Yeah, I have a feeling next year will be what many people wanted this year.
- The Last Guardian
- FFXV
- KH3
- Ratchet and Clank
- Sly Cooper for 2016 (Go along with movie)
- New Sony IP
- Vib Ribbon Remake (The hinting would come full circle)
- God of War
- Battle Royal 2 with Crash teaser

As people pointed out, many games at MS will be shown again next year. I am worried that they did not have enough planned for 2015. Either way, Grim Fandango was the biggest news to me.

That's the stuff I wanted to see

 

[terrier]

Didn't watch the conference, saw the games announced this morning. I think they played safe, and probably saved something for later, after having watched MS conference, which was not bad but didn't show any surprises either.

The big battle is obviously going to be in 2015, this fall multiplatforms will do the work with a few first party games that won't probably be big sellers,plus a few HD remakes. but enough to have some variety.

No urge to buy PS4 (or One), so far, will pick one if a good offer appears but 2015 is more likely , when the first price drop hopefully appears

Sony did what they needed to do.
They have the momentum, why blast your load early when not in need to do so

this

 

[MrFrankFontaine]

I know it's still early, but I was hoping they would have more on Project Morpheus.

 

[Birgitte2004]

PS4 retail exclusive line up

2014
The Last of Us
Drive Club
Guilty Gear Xrd
LittleBigPlanet 3

2015
The Order
BloodBourne
Uncharted 4
Ratchet and Clank Redux


Microsoft exclusive retail line up

2014
Sunset OverDrive
Forza Horizon 2
Halo Master Chief Collection

2015
Fable Legends
Quantum Break
Halo 5

2016
Crackdown 3
Platinum Games New IP
Phantom Dust
Gears of War 4


Microsoft has more however I feel they announced games that are more far off.

Microsoft is so good at managing perception. "I know how we'll make people think we'll have more exclusives, we'll talk farther in the future and people will only pay attention to #s!"

What I see is 8 Sony exclusives vs. 6 Microsoft exclusives during the years both talked about.

 

[Sid]

Yup,we need some Y2Kev action in here.

 

[nature boy]

If TLG is in "full production" right now, im 100% sure we will see it at E3 2015 if not sooner.

No one from Sony said it was in "full production".

 

[zomgbbqftw]

Good grief. I feel a rant brewing but I don't have the time. But it does feel a little cheap of Sony to make such an unusually big deal of Powers at what is now most definitely a global event when they only ever intended to 'air' it in the US.

Though to be fair I hear that this is the reason that Xbox is having such trouble mounting productions including the HALO 'mega series' because they couldn't make the sums work with a high end production debuting on a console streaming service. Which is probably why they are in talks with the likes of Showtime to debut the potential show.

But what is interesting is that Channel 4 are bringing in Powers but their own production (that android drama thing) is going the other way and debuting in America on Xbox Live.

Oh Television, you so crazy.

As you say, the economics don't make sense with a purely PSN TV series. I don't understand how they could make it work without IPTV/VoD and a subscription fee.

SPTV already has a good relationship with C4, Masters of Sex is on C4 already.

As you know Sony's TV and movie IP is all messed up with different licencing deals, to launch a competent IPTV/VoD service they would have to consolidate it all and that would take at least two years so this is going to be the model going forward for any "PlayStation originals". US gets it on PS+ and international audiences get it via broadcasters. I wouldn't be surprised if Powers ends up on Netflix a year after it "airs" on PSN.

 

[SephiZack]

No one from Sony said it was in "full production".

That new guy from SCEA did

 

[H4r4kiri]

Can we see the aftershow of the Cinemas anywhere ? I heard there was an interview wiht Druckman. I want to see this show with keighley ?

 

[Hyunashi]

Yeah, I have a feeling next year will be what many people wanted this year.
- The Last Guardian
- FFXV
- KH3
- Ratchet and Clank
- Sly Cooper for 2016 (Go along with movie)
- New Sony IP
- Vib Ribbon Remake (The hinting would come full circle)
- God of War
- Battle Royal 2 with Crash teaser

As people pointed out, many games at MS will be shown again next year. I am worried that they did not have enough planned for 2015. Either way, Grim Fandango was the biggest news to me.

+P5 cross-gen announcement.

 

[Forensic Scene]

I don't mind House, but at a certain point the digs at Microsoft became a bit much.

Layden was...awkward, but it was his first go. I'll give him another year.

First forty minutes of the conference were pure fire, then the pacing was pretty uneven.

Thank god I have LBP until The Order.

 

[LilWayneSuckz]

Aye, what Sony needs is its own video streaming service like Netflix - bulk it with their backcatalog and run their new shows exclusive on it. Or some variation

This already exists and it's called Crackle

 

[boredandlazy]

So if you'd actually prefer LBP to be 60FPS, why would you get at me for pointing out that it would be a better Jump'n Run at 60FPS? Since you actually do know and notice the difference, I think that isn't something we need to discuss. It is clear how much the game mechanics would improve and make it more fun to play. So you are sharing basically my opinion but instead of a) just ignoring my remark or b) chime in on it and tell people that you also would've liked it to be 60 you try to bash my opinion by attacking me on a personal/user level: "Oh no it's you again, we know what you want to say, your opinion is worthlhess, don't post it." Except if I don't post it, it may just not exist. So I need to post it, to make my voice (and the voice of others who share that opinion) heard and to actually change something. Even if it's repetitive (what isn't on GAF?). I think that's a pretty easy concept of opinion sharing, so please understand. Thanks.

By the answer you've given you obviously haven't actually bothered to read any of my posts regarding frame rates.
I prefer 60fps, but I don't have any issues whatsoever if a game is 'only' 30fps.
The issue I have with you(and I'm certainly not alone) is that almost evèry time a game is announced that isn't 60fps, you jump into a thread like you're the second coming of Christ blessing all us plebians with the knowledge of 60fps. You come off as extremely condescending. The basis of your opinion isn't the issue.
Anyway, as I said before I don't want to get banned for discussing this. I've made my stance as clear as I can. It's up to you whether you take anything from what I've said.

 

[nature boy]

That new guy from SCEA did

No he didn't.

 

[House Of Glass]

I enjoyed both conferences, neither were stellar but both solid in their own right. I'd say it was a tie. Microsoft revealed more exclusive games that interest me. And Sony revealed multiplatform stuff that will make sure PS4 stays my "main system". Fary Cry 4, Diablo, Destiny, etc.


Sony showed more of "The Order" footage which looked incredible, and the Uncharted piece that they showed looked insane as well. Bloodborne looked promising and the exclusive stuff they have going on with Far Cry 4 excited me. Friends can play Far cry 4 with you even if they don't own the game ? Crazy... Was very underwhelmed by Little Big planet, but never been a fan of the series, so I guess it didn't interest me. "Project Morpheus" would have been way better off with some new footage or something. It left more questions than answers.

MS revealed Crackdown, Phantom Dust and Scalebound, all were rumored, but big surprises imo. Shame there was no real footage though. Finally getting to see some Forza Horizon footage was nice. A bit underwhelmed by the graphics though. The Dead Rising 3 add on looked like good fun. The Master chief collection is a dream come true for any fan of halo. Sunset Overdrive looked incredible imo.

I know we knew of this existing, but I can't help but to be very excited over the master chief collection above everything else. Halo 1 through 4, all on their original engines with every map ever made at 1080p 60 fps ? yes please!

Is "The Master Chief Collection" the best value since the Orange box ? Serious question ?

 

[Yawnier]

Well so far this has been a very safe and predictable E3, very lukewarm with a few surprises here and there. E3 2013 > E3 2014 at this point. It definitely feels as though Sony is holding back on most of their first party games as most of their studios were a no-show yesterday. As someone who doesn't yet own a current gen home console I still haven't seen any games that sells me on one within the next few months except for maybe Destiny, which looks somewhat neat and hopefully the white bundle is priced decently.

Both MS and Sony's conference yesterday felt littered with third party stuff, which all in all isn't a bad thing per say but it just gives off some of the impression to me that both their first party and exclusive lineup is going to be limited for the next year or so.

Also I must say, MS paced their show great but when your back is sort of against the wall thats what you got to do I suppose.

 

[dark_inferno]

Is "The Master Chief Collection" the best value since the Orange box ? Serious question ?

Even trough im not a fan of the series : Yes. Series+4 Games + MP Mode for 70$ sounds like a steal.

 

[Akiller]

The content is there, but conference pacing's absolutely terrible.

This.

 

[Drek]

I'd say Sony's show won hands down over Microsoft. E3 is a trades show after all and Sony showed a much broader look at what the industry has to offer, how well the new consoles have talent off, and where they want to take it in the near future (Morpheus, PSTV, PS Now).

The surprise 2014 reveal of LBP3 really strengthens their 2014 lineup. If Lily Bergamo can make a worldwide 2014 release (I doubt it) they'll have a solid set of exclusives.

Most important to me was that they didn't descend into the long term wish casting that MS did. All the new exclusives from MS where shown sans-date. Given that we know from ntkrnl that Crackdown is 2016 and other info we have strongly suggests Scalebound and Phantom Dust are 2016 as well that leaves MS' 2015 lineup very reliant on Halo 5.

Meanwhile Sony's 2015 lineup already includes The Order, Uncharted 4, Bloodbourne, a R&C reboot, and I'm sure a cavalcade of the indie titles shown this year. That is without Sony Bend, Santa Monica, the second Sony San Diego team's game, or basically anything from SCEE and SCEJA.

They still have a lot of firepower out there waiting for Gamescom and TGS. i don't see where MS has a single other card up their sleeve other than Gears which only just got underway. It's very possible we'll see Sony's 2015 and 2016 calendar look like this.
2015:
Uncharted 4
Bloodbourne
R&C Reboot
Media Molecule's next game as a late 2015
Gran Turismo 7 Prologue early 2015 or full GT7 late 2015
At least one more SCEJA project
Sony London's new core project
Sony Bend's next game

2016:
Second Naughty Dog game in development
Sony Santa Monica's Cory Barlog project
Sony San Diego's next game (could also be a 2015)
SCEJA's much rumored JRPG
Infamous Second Son 2
Guerrilla Cambridge's next game (Killzone 5 I'd bet)

That's just off the top of my head. They've got an army of studios all churning away on the system and they revealed only a small fragment of them at E3.

That all said, Nintendo has one hell of a big window this year. If Bayo2 and X make it out for Christmas 2014 that'll be big when teamed with MK8 and Smash. They could really make a move if the Zelda game they're unveiling is a 2014 or early 2015 title.

 

[Crazypanda_85]

Yesterday, we witnessed a strong showing from two of the big console makers. My score for Sony is an A- . Here's just a few of my thoughts on the show:

The games in the beginning and end were hitting all cylinders for me. I did miss Rime and a few other titles but overall, I was far from disappointed. There are so many games that I want to play and I can't wait to get. Yes, some of them were already announced but overall, my wallet is still going to hurt.

Some of my highlights:
Indie games, especially No Man Sky, are something that has grown as a bigger genre that I look forward too. The quality of those studios sometimes rival bigger dev groups 10x their size.

Far Cry 4 and its ability to allow other PS4 players to play with you,even if they do not have the game themselves. From what we saw, the world seems alive and I can't wait to hop into it.

The Order looks awesome to me. It seems more realized as an interactive film, which I know some people do not like but it's right up my alley

Grim Fandango was one of those PC games that I remembered seeing when I was young at Funcoland (remember Funcoland, which had one of the coolest return policies ever?) but we never had a PC that I could play it on. Getting a chance to go back to some of the LucasArts classics is exciting. I hope the Indiana Jones games are added too

I guess I was one of the few people who was excited about the Powers announcement (which was a little longer than needed). Its a very awesome detective comic series and as a fan, I'm excited to see that Sony is releasing original content. This may not be big for the gaming only crowd but it is for those who enjoy comics and original programing. Sometimes we forget that there are people who game and don't simply want games and nothing else.

Also, I'm hyped about the CE of Disney Infinity 2.0 for the PS consoles. My wife and I loved the first one and can't wait to grab this day one.

Outside of the lull moment (which, imo, people are blowing way out of proportion), I felt Sony knocked it out of the park. They already have a few hundred dollars with their name on it from my bank account for this late Summer/Fall .

I'm excited for the offerings of both PS4 and XB1. My home office is going to have the please do not disturb sign up quite a lot this Fall

 

[ImNotOnline2Day]

I'm curious, what new mouth-watering exclusives are these? I felt Microsoft dropped the ball harder on the exclusives front than Sony did.

Well, Halo 1-4, Halo 5, Gears of War (when it eventually gets announced), sunset overdrive (maybe), crackdown, forza horizon 2

 

[Coxy]

Nope...sit outside a GameStop for a few days...ask everyone that goes in if they have heard of Shenmue..



I didt say the segment was aimed at the average gamer..It was in response to the poster that said nobody wanted a zombie game...and that everyone was requesting games like Shenmue...

When in reality..many more gamers would be interested in a zombie game...

And like I said about Grim Fandango..the avg gamer won't have a clue, and it will sell accordingly...

It will be heavily discounted at launch for PS+ dubbers...if not IGC right off the bat...

the problem is that most of us forum goers are even more out of touch with the general gaming public then we accuse devs/pubs of being...

It doesnt have a fucking thing to do with "the average gamer"

They ran a specific campaign asking what people what they wanted. Adam Boyes himself said that what was most requested was Yakuza and Shenmue.

If they're just going to ignore what people actually wanted and instead guess at what some random people want anyway they shouldnt have run the campaign at all. Or at the very fucking least dont bullshit that it's what we asked for

 

[Widge]

It's very possible we'll see Sony's 2015 and 2016 calendar look like this.
2015:
Uncharted 4
Bloodbourne
R&C Reboot
Media Molecule's next game as a late 2015
Gran Turismo 7 Prologue early 2015 or full GT7 late 2015
At least one more SCEJA project
Sony London's new core project
Sony Bend's next game

2016:
Second Naughty Dog game in development
Sony Santa Monica's Cory Barlog project
Sony San Diego's next game (could also be a 2015)
SCEJA's much rumored JRPG
Infamous Second Son 2
Guerrilla Cambridge's next game (Killzone 5 I'd bet)

Yeah and that doesn't even cover the other stuff too. Things like Rime, Deep Down, Planetside 2, Guerrilla's RPG, The Witness, Everquest.

I think once the engines are warmed up, it is going to be a nice churn of constant titles. Existing and fresh.

Still don't believe MS have the capability to pull out that scale of development beyond servicing their core IP's, they've been trading as the multiplatform host of choice for far too long.