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Whilst this is tragic, why is a domestic shooting front-page news even on overseas outlets? Is it just the morbid novelty that we got to see it "live"?
All major shootings are front page news.
Whilst this is tragic, why is a domestic shooting front-page news even on overseas outlets? Is it just the morbid novelty that we got to see it "live"?
Yup they're saying he's still alive. He still has a pulse.
Hope they save the fucker only to fill him with so much lead it isn't funny. Takes a real piece of shit to kill innocent people. Even if you take his history with the station in that woman and her camera man did nothing to him.
Not an insult, just a question: Is it a case of cognitive dissonance when it's as obvious as this? Like, you know he did it but you have to assume he's innocent until proven guilty?Because even when it's blatantly obvious we're supposed to uphold 'innocent until proven guilty in a court of law'.
No matter how blatant the crime, news outlets are not allowed to state it as fact for fear of prejudicing the suspect's future trial.
Where the link?
You believe Coworkers at your last job conspired to fire you, and you believe it's on the grounds of them being racist. you then write a 23 page essay and plot to kill them then actually carry it out and you think this guy is alright in the head?
Yep. Death is easy.I hope he lives. I wouldn't mind 40 years of him being in bed with a feeding tube in prison, acutely aware of it.
Something drove him to do this.
So straight after the killing, the gunman uploaded his GoPro video to the internet?
Jesus christ.
He live-tweeted after the fact.So, holy shit, he was apparently live streaming from his phone while he assaulted them. That is fucking messed up.
You believe Coworkers at your last job conspired to fire you, and you believe it's on the grounds of them being racist. you then write a 23 page essay and plot to kill them then actually carry it out and you think this guy is alright in the head?
It's been coming for a long time. I sort of figured this might not happen until things like Google Glass are more commonplace so that people are wearing cameras without being obvious about it, but yeah, livestreamed murder is definitely going to happen, and it's going to be awful.
Yep. Uploaded all of it on his twitter account. You can't even write this shit.So straight after the killing, the gunman uploaded his GoPro video to the internet?
Yep. Uploaded all of it on his twitter account. You can't even write this shit.
Well yes, racism are probably justified given the state and is no excuse for murder. I was just trying to give some context to his thought process. Even people who are sane experience racism in the workplace aren't gonna come back the next day and shoot up the place.23 page essay is all you need to say, really.
What a fucking loon.
CNN: We won't show the video, but here's what happens in it!
Jesus, this fucking network.
Not an insult, just a question: Is it a case of cognitive dissonance when it's as obvious as this? Like, you know he did it but you have to assume he's innocent until proven guilty?
Well yes, racism might but justified and is no excuse for murder, I was just trying to give some context to his thought process. Even people who are sane experience racism in the workplace aren't gonna come back the next day and shoot up the place.
Deciding to kill two people is a rash decision. Premeditation doesn't mean he wasn't disturbed. His obsessiveness and obsessive premeditation point toward being disturbed more than not.We are just talking about two different types of "snapping" I guess. You must be using in terms of "going crazy" where as I am using it to mean a rash decision with no forethought.
23 page essay is all you need to say, really.
What a fucking loon.
What are actually the criteria for mental illness?You believe Coworkers at your last job conspired to fire you, and you believe it's on the grounds of them being racist. you then write a 23 page essay and plot to kill them then actually carry it out and you think this guy is alright in the head?
Yea, I'm hearing that he is in critical condition...not dead.
Fix how we treat mental illness in this country, fix the gun laws, fix how media portray things.
And nothing happens and we all move on a month later...
The cycle will never end.
Dude is a whacko.
Hope he survives to face what's coming.
Virginia is a death penalty state correct?
That Breitbart article is insane.
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Not an insult, just a question: Is it a case of cognitive dissonance when it's as obvious as this? Like, you know he did it but you have to assume he's innocent until proven guilty?
Stabilize him. Get him to trial. Find out what the fuck is going on in his head.
Yes:Virginia is a death penalty state correct?
What a horrible fucking tragedy. Poor people just doing their jobs and some maniac just snuffs them out. I've been a gun owner for the last 20+ years, but it's blatantly obvious that things have got to change. It goes without saying that it should be far more difficult to legally buy a gun, but what can we do about the millions and millions of guns already out there?
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/07/dean-weingarten/how-many-guns-are-there-in-america/
That link states that as of 2012 there were over 300 million guns owned by citizens in the U.S. 300 million guns and approximately 100 million legal gun owners. I keep seeing people come in and post things like "ban guns" and "repeal the second amendment" but how exactly do you do that without all hell breaking loose. Do you guys think the police and military should go door to door collecting legally owned firearms from citizens that haven't committed any crimes? I'm not trying to be a smart ass with that question. I'm legitimately curious and open to any ideas on how we can go about disarming a nation that is so inundated with guns and gun culture.
These shootings are just going to get worse and more frequent. Something has got to be done about it, but how do we go about doing it from a logistical standpoint? It gets tiring seeing the same comments in every shooting thread. People keep saying there needs to be a discussion on gun control, but that's all they say. The discussion never gets started. How about instead of saying "ban guns" or "typical day in America" we actually talk about realistic ways to accomplish the disarming of America. I really would just love to read some well thought out ideas from people on how to fix this mess. Sorry to derail. This story is utterly tragic and heartbreaking, and I hate that people on gaf think that just because someone might be a gun owner that we all think this kind of shit is acceptable as long as we get to keep our precious guns. It's not acceptable. It's horrible and it's got to be fixed.
Deciding to kill two people is a rash decision. Premeditation doesn't mean he wasn't disturbed. His obsessiveness and obsessive premeditation point toward being disturbed more than not.
That Breitbart article is insane.
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I'm not going to even ask what their Charleston headline looked like.
Not an insult, just a question: Is it a case of cognitive dissonance when it's as obvious as this? Like, you know he did it but you have to assume he's innocent until proven guilty?
But him putting it all over twitter and facebook won't prejudice anyone?
That Breitbart article is insane.
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Don't.This whole story is insane. Although I feel for him supposedly undergoing racism and feeling like no one could hear his plea, he was clearly an unstable individual and the murder of these two reporters is immensely tragic. The fact that he also filmed it himself using a GoPro doubles the insanity. Surprised to hear he somehow survived his suicide.