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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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Sony told you hardware based raytracing twice and you seemed to doubt it

I still doubt it due to their strange as hell messaging on it and CES sure as hell didn't help. And the github leak shows no evidence of it on what's expected to be the PS5 chip. But who cares. It's besides the point. If they have it or don't, we will eventually find out when released titles that support ray tracing appear. Nobody should really care what my personal view on the matter is. Did you think by bringing it up I'd suddenly back down from that suspicion? Well, either way, moving on, I'm talking about seeing a full, proper reveal of the PS5, from Sony. Not vague crap from every new insider that seem to appear about as often as random encounters in a jRPG.
 
Haha perfect response . Not only that, he got perma banned for insisting about it on RE, then he created 2 other alt accounts and continued to say the same thing and those also got caught haha .

First of all I never created any fucking alt accounts, ever, so save me the bullshit. But I do laugh at people accusing people of being me with zero evidence to prove such. At no point was any proof provided, it was just the routine fanboy pile on bs that these forums are so commonly known for. It makes it crystal clear what's allowed and from whom. Special treatment is a thing on many of these forums. How else can people continue to say certain things, basically already be proven wrong and still not get banned? Believe whatever you boys want, but I don't believe in hiding who I am when I post on forums. I will say what I want, and whoever doesn't look it, tough. Ban me for discussing the same things everybody else does with zero consequence, I couldn't care less.

But if there is one thing you will understand about me is I use the same name and profile everywhere with no attempts to hide who I am. I've been banned so many times here I fucking lost count. Hell, more than likely me defending myself now will get me another ban, but same old, same old.
 
I still doubt it due to their strange as hell messaging on it and CES sure as hell didn't help. And the github leak shows no evidence of it on what's expected to be the PS5 chip. But who cares. It's besides the point. If they have it or don't, we will eventually find out when released titles that support ray tracing appear. Nobody should really care what my personal view on the matter is. Did you think by bringing it up I'd suddenly back down from that suspicion? Well, either way, moving on, I'm talking about seeing a full, proper reveal of the PS5, from Sony. Not vague crap from every new insider that seem to appear about as often as random encounters in a jRPG.
Its ok man.create your 3rd alt in RE and continue saying the same thing .i m sure no one will notice its you and realize that sony was lying all this time 👀👀👀😂
 
First of all I never created any fucking alt accounts, ever, so save me the bullshit. But I do laugh at people accusing people of being me with zero evidence to prove such. At no point was any proof provided, it was just the routine fanboy pile on bs that these forums are so commonly known for. It makes it crystal clear what's allowed and from whom. Special treatment is a thing on many of these forums. How else can people continue to say certain things, basically already be proven wrong and still not get banned? Believe whatever you boys want, but I don't believe in hiding who I am when I post on forums. I will say what I want, and whoever doesn't look it, tough. Ban me for discussing the same things everybody else does with zero consequence, I couldn't care less.

But if there is one thing you will understand about me is I use the same name and profile everywhere with no attempts to hide who I am. I've been banned so many times here I fucking lost count. Hell, more than likely me defending myself now will get me another ban, but same old, same old.
Oh spare me the theatric i asked a friend mod and he checked and it was you mr. Jackal lol
 
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Gavin Stevens

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So who cares if he DOES make a few alts on RE? Seeiously, do you think he’s going to destroy the PlayStation brand if he does that?

I think, as usual, some of you need to take a bit of a step back. Chill your beans, men.

Oh spare me the theatric i asked a friend mod and he checked and it was you mr. Jackal lol

And if you did he would be removed, and it would be noted. Move on.
 
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Haha perfect response . Not only that, he got perma banned for insisting about it on RE, then he created 2 other alt accounts and continued to say the same thing and those also got caught haha .
Regarding the XB1X, he also insisted that it would use Ryzen. Considering that he’s quick to dismiss insiders if they make even one wrong prediction, he shouldn’t whine if he receives the same treatment.
 
Its ok man.create your 3rd alt in RE and continue saying the same thing .i m sure no one will notice its you and realize that sony was lying all this time 👀👀👀😂

You fanboys are something else. If you and them are so convinced go ahead and have them provide the IP address of those "alts" I've used the same account for years, never afraid to show who I am. Other than that, believe whatever you want if it makes you feel better. I'm far from the only person who has said what I have, but you keep thinking I am. :messenger_tears_of_joy:

Oh spare me the theatric i asked a friend mod and he checked and it was you mr. Jackal lol

Another lie since it wasn't me at all, but you and your "mod friend" keep inventing stories. This really shows just how much you and some others are zealots when it comes to this console war shit. Even concocting lies about how it was proven to be me when that's impossible? How was it proven to be me when they couldn't possibly have had my ip address, and I stopped visiting the site altogether? They wouldn't have seen a single instance of my IP visiting that site even on my original account because I stopped going there. You guys continue to believe you are a lot more important than you actually are. I may participate on forums sometimes, but if I get banned from them I don't care enough to go re-register. That's a waste of my time. I much rather just talk on twitter and if I happened to get unbanned and feel like it, start posting again. No more, no less.

Just go ahead and say what I already know. There was no way it was proven to be me, but fanboys called for a ban of someone having a discussion on the site, you guys didn't like what they were saying, so you demanded a scalp and the mods delivered it, just as how it always works on these sites. There isn't much difference between the two places. That's how proper moderation works, am I right? Mob rules all day?
 
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demigod

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Sony told you hardware based raytracing twice and you seemed to doubt it
Haha perfect response . Not only that, he got perma banned for insisting about it on RE, then he created 2 other alt accounts and continued to say the same thing and those also got caught haha .

Pretty pathetic of him if you ask me. Got banned from era and went straight to his twitter to cry about it while bashing era. Went back with an alt and got banned again. Looks like he’s not man enough to admit jackAL was him.

If I got banned from GAF, you can bet your ass i’m not coming back.
 

Gavin Stevens

Formerly 'o'dium'
My predictions based on the latest talk, rumour and whatever, sifting through all the Sony horse wank and fanboy bollocks, of which there has been a strangely large amount for a weekend:

- SX will be slightly more powerful.
- PS5 will be, technology wise, ahead, but less powerful.
- Due to up to date methods and some smart ideas, the lower performance gap on PS5 will be tiny compared to SX, meaning it will make barely any difference.
- Both consoles will ship with controllers. I feel I need to add this point, because I read some amazingly fucking dumb stuff on era that suggested otherwise earlier and it made my brain fart.

So there you go. As always, not a lot in it, but my prediction has once again swayed to SX being slightly more powerful, but as always, it making jack shit difference.

Now if you don’t mind, I’ve got to a royal twat of a part on God Of War, and he hasn’t said “boyyyyy!” in a few minutes so I feel strange.

Toodles. X
 
You fanboys are something else. If you and them are so convinced go ahead and have them provide the IP address of those "alts" I've used the same account for years, never afraid to show who I am. Other than that, believe whatever you want if it makes you feel better. I'm far from the only person who has said what I have, but you keep thinking I am. :messenger_tears_of_joy:
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When u use vpn and a new mac address its a matter of time they identify you by loging in from your old device by mistake which u did and got caught mr.jackal. what was your new lady name account ? I forgot lol

Thats the end of this conversation mr jackal lol bye
 
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You fanboys are something else. If you and them are so convinced go ahead and have them provide the IP address of those "alts" I've used the same account for years, never afraid to show who I am. Other than that, believe whatever you want if it makes you feel better. I'm far from the only person who has said what I have, but you keep thinking I am. :messenger_tears_of_joy:



Another lie since it wasn't me at all, but you and your "mod friend" keep inventing stories. This really shows just how much you and some others are zealots when it comes to this console war shit. Even concocting lies about how it was proven to be me when that's impossible? How was it proven to be me when they couldn't possibly have had my ip address, and I stopped visiting the site altogether? They wouldn't have seen a single instance of my IP visiting that site even on my original account because I stopped going there. You guys continue to believe you are a lot more important than you actually are. I may participate on forums sometimes, but if I get banned from them I don't care enough to go re-register. That's a waste of my time. I much rather just talk on twitter and if I happened to get unbanned and feel like it, start posting again. No more, no less.

Just go ahead and say what I already know. There was no way it was proven to be me, but fanboys called for a ban of someone having a discussion on the site, you guys didn't like what they were saying, so you demanded a scalp and the mods delivered it, just as how it always works on these sites. There isn't much difference between the two places. That's how proper moderation works, am I right? Mob rules all day?
Lol why r u even lying about public knowledge ? Jackal was banned due to being an alt account .you can read the reason for ban publicly. He (you) were not banned because he said sony is lying about RT.he was banned cause it was an alt account of you .
 
Pretty pathetic of him if you ask me. Got banned from era and went straight to his twitter to cry about it while bashing era. Went back with an alt and got banned again. Looks like he’s not man enough to admit jackAL was him.

If I got banned from GAF, you can bet your ass i’m not coming back.

I just called out the bs. I've never created any alt accounts, ever, and nobody can prove that I did. Why do you give a shit what I say on my twitter account? If I want to call out bullshit on my twitter, that's my business. I may only return if there's an expiration on my ban. but I'll never create alts because that shit is a joke. If I have something to say and someone doesn't like it, I like to make sure the person/persons knows it's me, kinda like i'm doing now by not backing down from what I've said. That's how I operate. Others do things differently, that's them. I may be banned for saying what I'm saying at this very moment (I have in the past), but this time just make it a permanent. Cause we all know how this thing really works. You say specific things that a certain sector of fanboys do not like, and you get banned to appease them. Funny thing is I've never not once been criticized or banned for saying something negative about xbox on here, and believe me I have, as difficult as that may be to believe lol. It's the most support I've ever gotten, in fact.
 

DeeDogg_

Banned
I'm just honestly asking lol
I don't know how it works.

But I do agree that he should. Since he been wrong many times in the recent times.
..So...can I ask why we believe he k owe jackshit at all? Or is he some near to middle aged dude lying to a few dozen people on a video game forum for publicity from sites like PushSquare?
 
Lol why r u even lying about public knowledge ? Jackal was banned due to being an alt account .you can read the reason for ban publicly. He (you) were not banned because he said sony is lying about RT.he was banned cause it was an alt account of you .

I saw the post where the person was banned, someone sent me a screen cap of it, and I saw the reason posted as it being an alt account, but that was no alt account belonging to me, and I guarantee it was never proven. They just banned the person to appease the fanboys on the site, but it 100% wasn't me lol. If there is any suggestion that it was genuinely me, they are lying. I guarantee my IP address doesn't match that user, but next I'll be accused of using some vpn or some shit. It's kinda like the way you guys were accusing timdog of living in fucking yakima washington, so it must be him, despite the fact timdog lives in new york, as I do. This is what you guys were busy doing on here when some random user started posting like they were an insider. Were those people making those baseless accusations banned? Of course not. What do you guys really get from these lynch mob style pursuits? I really do wonder.
 

Gamernyc78

Banned
Pretty pathetic of him if you ask me. Got banned from era and went straight to his twitter to cry about it while bashing era. Went back with an alt and got banned again. Looks like he’s not man enough to admit jackAL was him.

If I got banned from GAF, you can bet your ass i’m not coming back.

Word I didnt go back to snowflake Ree after thy banned me for saying ppl shouldn't witchhunt the guy who committed suicide after tht bitch came out with all her bs. All I said was wait for the facts and stop finding ppl guilty based off a statement and thy banned me saying I was promoting "rape culture" 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂.

Foh why would I want to even be associated with a site like tht.
 
Agnostic2020 Agnostic2020 I have no naked mole rat in this game but are you really trying someone on GAF for something they supposedly did on REEE without providing any proof?

How about we deal with things as they happen here and leave that stuff out of it. The mods will deal with it if they think it needs to be dealt with. The report function is there for a reason.

That's the part that's killing me. Zero fucking proof. Even tossed in a lie that his "mod friend" said it was definitely me. No fucking way that was proven. Not taking blame for some shit I never did. Only thing they're basing their accusations on is that the poster also questioned whether or not PS5 really had hardware accerated ray tracing, as if I'm the only person on the entire internet who has speculated such. The github leak is pretty much the main culprit responsible for turbo charging the suspicions. Don't blame me, blame AMD. It showed for the Xbox Series X chip and not for the chip labeled with the ps5 codename, same chip with the ps4 and ps4 pro clockspeeds as BC modes and the ps4 and ps4 pro memory bandwidths as part of BC mode. And people are getting mad at me? Anyway, I'll let it die now cause I'm wasting my sunday on nonsense.

I agree .no more posts related to that from me.

seconded!
 
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Rim

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..So...can I ask why we believe he k owe jackshit at all? Or is he some near to middle aged dude lying to a few dozen people on a video game forum for publicity from sites like PushSquare?
I can't speak for others, but I don't believe jackshit of what this supossed "insiders" claim.
Most just seem a case of throwing shit to wall and see what sticks.

Even I could do that, and eventually I would get one right.
 
That's the part that's killing me. Zero fucking proof. Even tossed in a lie that his "mod friend" said it was definitely me. No fucking way that was proven. Not taking blame for some shit I never did. Only thing they're basing their accusations on is that the poster also questioned whether or not PS5 really had hardware accerated ray tracing, as if I'm the only person on the entire internet who has speculated such. The github leak is pretty much the main culprit responsible for turbo charging the suspicions. Don't blame me, blame AMD. It showed for the Xbox Series X chip and not for the chip labeled with the ps5 codename, same chip with the ps4 and ps4 pro clockspeeds as BC modes and the ps4 and ps4 pro memory bandwidths as part of BC mode. And people are getting mad at me?

Blame Sony too because they literally said PS5 will have RT
 
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I'm amazed people still do this to themselves. How many new rumors and leaks is it on a consistent basis now. They can't all be telling the truth lol. They're just out for attention. Wait for Sony. All else is nonsense.
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Agreed. I will admit, though, cause I've at times had doubts myself. Halo Infinite's technical impressiveness is easy to glance over and dismiss till you see that thing at a full 4K running on your HDTV. Hell, we haven't even seen it running with HDR active yet! At least I haven't, but it's a night and day visual difference on my 4KTV at 4K. And this is youtube no less. I don't even have a high quality direct feed.
Oh you better believe I watched it on my 55inch Samsung QLed. I'm one of those guys that can see the difference between 1080p and 4k in most scenarios. HDR in 1080p can be sneaky though. Yeah I really enjoyed that whole conference. Phil is still a weirdo and if I said what Cerney looks like to me I'd get banned on here. Truly I just want us all to move foward and literally let the games begin.
 

Rim

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Jason Schrier has a solid track record, so if no-one else you should be able to believe him.
Oh yeah. Him I believe.
He shown more than enough how much he knows, and has a great track record. He doesn't get 1 right and 5 wrong.

And even him with all the sources he has, has come out and said he doesn't know when the PS5 meeting is and never talked about specs.

When he talks about it, I will believe it.
 

Gamernyc78

Banned
Oh you better believe I watched it on my 55inch Samsung QLed. I'm one of those guys that can see the difference between 1080p and 4k in most scenarios. HDR in 1080p can be sneaky though. Yeah I really enjoyed that whole conference. Phil is still a weirdo and if I said what Cerney looks like to me I'd get banned on here. Truly I just want us all to move foward and literally let the games begin.

Phil looks like a drunk old frat boy wannabee I wouldn't believe a day in my life and Cerny looks like a mad scientist, perv (thts the nice word I'm using for what he looks like lol).

My money is on Cerny though his track record is pretty good and is a hardware guy.
 
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LED Guy?

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Well, those insiders have said that since E3. Where Reiner reported that he heard that at that point PS5 was faster than Xbox. And that's true, because Xbox devkits didn't exist back then, they only launched in November. So while PS5 was using Ariel and Oberon devkits at that point, Microsoft was at best still using PCs with target specs. And surprise, the best Navi based GPU available at that time was

5600 XT: 36 CU, 1.75 GHz, 8 Teraflop
vs.
Ariel: 36 CU, 1.8 GHz, 8.3 Teraflop
vs.
Oberon: 36 CU, 2 GHz, 9.2 Teraflop

The more powerful 5700 XT didn't arrive until a month after E3.

Damn, suddenly Sony is in that exact same ballpark that Reiner reported. Except he didn't account for the fact that actual XSX devkits were not out yet.

Later "insiders" then just went with what Reiner reported to pretend to be credible. Or simply were fed information from back then, but they don't necessarily have newer information just because they say it later.
You really do not know what you’re talking about about, both Microsoft and Sony can emulate whatever they can even if they had to use 2 Vega GPUs to do that, and the 12 TF RDNA thing was known and was in developers’ hands before E3 2019 or around it and that’s according to Polygon’s Arthur Gies, so PS5 really is more powerful than Xbox Series X, and developers have had the target specs way before that.

So what you’re saying is so wrong on many levels and contradicts many things.
 

saintjules

Member
Maybe someone who's verified can co-sign. Friend of mine who has a roommate that works in marketing and PR with Playstation were holed up in a Hotel for about a week this week. "boot camp" style. Maybe something is coming soon? Some "building exercise" as they were calling it.
 
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LED Guy?

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From Klobrille
Yeah we all know Klobrille, he was the one who jumped out feeling threatened after the 1st WIRED article about the PS5 and said “Xbox will CLEARLY be more advanced and more powerful than PlayStation 5” and he later admitted that what he said was just what Microsoft is targeting, that’s all, then later Phil Spencer stated that he is targeting price to performance of the PS5....Hmm thus leads me to believe that they’ll be equal in power and price.
 
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