I got Assassin’s Creed Odyssey for 15 bucks on PSN. I’ve got something to do now.This is like being stuck in a cruise ship cabin for 14d with the corona virus outbreak and running out of things to do
I got Assassin’s Creed Odyssey for 15 bucks on PSN. I’ve got something to do now.
You’re starting to sound like one of those paranoid conspiracy theorists![]()
BROOOOOOOO!!!!
I do not know if you’re being real with yourself right now or not, Mark Cerny did talk about Ray Tracing as a visual effect and as a sound effect and this is according to the guy who wrote the WIRED article that it is associated with both of them, the sound and the visual, and Sony has CONFIRMED HARDWARE RAY TRACING TWICE FOR PS5, there’s no way around this my guy, give it up.
You’re starting to sound like one of those paranoid conspiracy theorists![]()
Look, I know you're on a mission here, but it takes a lot... and I mean a lot of mental gymnastics to come to that conclusion after Mark Cerny's latest quote on the subject. Maybe a reminder of what Cerny said exactly will help? (Probably not.)So, long story short, I see one side projecting confidence whereas I see the other being evasive on the issue. Maybe I'm wrong, and I will gladly eat crow. But I'm going to need to see it in a released title to believe it.
They are delusional too, I have not said anything about them, 2 wrongs doesn’t make you’re doing any less insane, stop it man.People have been on here talking about dual gpus being inside of a fucking console and are believing every random paste bin and fake rumor that pops up, and I'm the conspiracy theorist? Okay "BROOOOOOOO!!!!"
As I said before, it's a dead issue for me. I don't care. Wait for the reveal.
Cerny talked about audio RT because it's new thing, technology in games, what's wrong with that? how it's misunderstanding? do you think he's gonna spil the beans about RT on his first interview? you might say ps5 lacks BC because cerny didn't talk about it or Ryan didn't mention it at CES.
and you still doubt it?like what he's have to tell you to make you believe it?
wee don't even know if that leak is real and even it's real that don't disprove anything about ps5 just because there's RT in xsex leak.
yes it doesn't have RT because Ryan didn't mentions it but later he says that they will share more features about ps5 in coming months by then ps5 probably have RT by that time if he mentions it because Cerny mentioning is not enough for you,
it's hard to tell that you're trolling? or really have flawed logic?
key word: I see, next time send email to sony and ask that they will talk about what you want them to make a list or something.
here i can prove it:
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Xbox Series X specs - what's inside the next-generation console?
This is why Microsoft believes that Xbox Series X specs will deliver the "most immersive console experience ever"www.gamesradar.com
Look, I know you're on a mission here, but it takes a lot... and I mean a lot of mental gymnastics to come to that conclusion after Mark Cerny's latest quote on the subject. Maybe a reminder of what Cerny said exactly will help? (Probably not.)
"There is ray-tracing acceleration in the GPU hardware." - Mark Cerny
If we don't get a date by Saturday, the chances of a February reveal becomes very slimOk.. Guys and girls, when the actual F will Sony do a huge PS5 reveal?! Cant any real insiders leak anything?! We are in mid February now...![]()
Ok.. Guys and girls, when the actual F will Sony do a huge PS5 reveal?! Cant any real insiders leak anything?! We are in mid February now...![]()
More like you guys are on a mission to dictate to me what I should and shouldn't believe based on the impression i'm getting based on their communication thus far. Maybe it's you all who should just move on and leave me in my ignorance if that's how you choose to view it. Why is it so important to so many of you that I believe exactly what you all believe? I do not. I'm waiting on a final verdict in the form of a released AAA that demonstrates it. Just because I'm more convinced on the xbox side of things with regards to ray tracing doesn't mean I don't need to see clear proof of it there also. I do. So, are we all finally done? Hope so, because I'm not changing my view until I see what the situation is like once games start showing up.
Man, you're insane. In every way.
Good, so we've established I'm insane for wanting to see proof of something when a company says certain things. I'll take that.
Why is it so important to so many of you that I believe exactly what you all believe? I do not. I'm waiting on a final verdict in the form of a released AAA that demonstrates it. Just because I'm more convinced on the xbox side of things with regards to ray tracing doesn't mean I don't need to see clear proof of it there also. I do. So, are we all finally done? Hope so, because I'm not changing my view until I see what the situation is like once games start showing up.
Feb 12?
Dude it's time to go man. Find a new thread to take your bullshit toGood, so we've established I'm insane for wanting to see proof of something when a company says certain things. I'll take that.
It was important to you 4 years ago to convince people here that X1X will have ZEN without providing any single damn proof. People here just trying to provide you a proof that PS5 will have RT, literally a frickin quotes from Mark Cerny, then PS5 features slideshows which says - Hardware Based Raytracing. RT for PS5 is mentioned more times, especially by Mark Cerny, the system architect, yet, at Project Scarlet teaser last year at E3, someone mentioned that XSX will have hardware accelerated RT - BELIEVE!
Yes, you're insane.
Dude it's time to go man. Find a new thread to take your bullshit to
Dude it's time to go man. Find a new thread to take your bullshit to
Already a thread with him in it. Lets take his advice and ignore him so he’ll stop this nonsense.
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PS5 hardware based Ray-Tracing vs Xbox Series X hardware accelerated Ray Tracing: Is there a difference in the tech or just the wording?
Negative almost all ppl tht have mentioned RT solutions and are suppose to be Insiders have said ps5 RT solution is the one with the edge. We've all been here reading up on the leaks thy gave tht nod to ps5 except for like one person tht said thy were similar. Some ppl here have selective...www.neogaf.com
well in his defense, a MS hardware engineer lied to him to his face at xbox fanfest about the whole zen thing.It was important to you 4 years ago to convince people here that X1X will have ZEN without providing any single damn proof. People here just trying to provide you a proof that PS5 will have RT, literally a frickin quotes from Mark Cerny, then PS5 features slideshows which says - Hardware Based Raytracing. RT for PS5 is mentioned more times, especially by Mark Cerny, the system architect, yet, at Project Scarlet teaser last year at E3, someone mentioned that XSX will have hardware accelerated RT - BELIEVE!
Yes, you're insane.
Nope, again, that's also nonsense. I always made it clear that xbox one x having zen was my DESIRE, my speculation, not something I knew for certain. I just strongly believed it based on an interactioin with people who worked on the console at xbox fanfest/E3. No more, no less.
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/digi...-gpu-features-revealed.1337264/post-229907483
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[Digital Foundry] New Scorpio Spec Leak: ESRAM Gone, GPU Features Revealed
This is the highest quality PR anyone has ever seen.www.neogaf.com
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So, yea, I was always speculating and hyped from excitement, and just wanting a console I intended to buy to have the best, even if it didn't seem practical for a mid-gen refresh. People here have discussed for ps5 everything from HBM2e, to RERAM, to dual GPUs, one on each side of that dev kit design, some have speculated 13.8 all the way to 14TF. Shit, people get excited! Point it out as many times as you like. Scream it from the rooftops. Yes, I wanted and hoped Xbox One X would have have Zen, and based on conversations I had with people who worked on the damn thing at E3, who obviously couldn't tell me much and at the same time probably didn't want to burst an excited fan's bubble, said just enough for me to treat it as potential confirmation that it had it. I'm not ashamed of that lol, and I laugh every time you people act like I should be.
It was pretty clear for anyone who had paid attention to all my posts back then, as opposed to cherry picking just the ones that fit their agenda, where I was getting my xbox one x + zen beliefs from. It was also pretty clear from those same posts that I wouldn't have given a damn if I was wrong so long as the console delivered. Xbox One X delivered. I never thought it'd be able to perform like it has in some games from the time i've had it. I was thinking true 4K gaming was out of reach for it still prior to release, except in something like Forza. So, by all means, continue to beat that old dead horse.![]()
Here we go with this bullshit. Nothing I've said warrants a perm ban, but should something so ridiculous occur the reason will be obvious. I heard strong indications at E3 2016 that it would be a Zen CPU. Not taking back what I said, nor will I apologize for any of it. If my being permanently banned satisfies some, well then I suppose that's the price you pay for being excited about scorpio? Whatever lol
Scorpio will have a Zen CPU. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but I doubt it. It won't kill me if it doesn't. But I don't equate the messaging from that reveal video to mean "hey guys, so we went with a Jaguar CPU."
BROOOOOOOO!!!!
I do not know if you’re being real with yourself right now or not, Mark Cerny did talk about Ray Tracing as a visual effect and as a sound effect and this is according to the guy who wrote the WIRED article that it is associated with both of them, the sound and the visual, and Sony has CONFIRMED HARDWARE RAY TRACING TWICE FOR PS5, there’s no way around this my guy, give it up.
You’re starting to sound like one of those paranoid conspiracy theorists![]()
Oh, yes, you knew that X1X will have Zen CPU. It was your desire and also NOT a speculation in any way. You said it WILL HAVE! Because someone told you that and you didn't backtracked for being wrong too
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[Digital Foundry] New Scorpio Spec Leak: ESRAM Gone, GPU Features Revealed
Literal myths. lol, that's awesomewww.neogaf.com
Can you do this?Move the fuck on already.
well in his defense, a MS hardware engineer lied to him to his face at xbox fanfest about the whole zen thing.
naturally, instead of being skeptical of the very people who lied to him, he is ok with taking them for their word while casting doubt over Cerny and the CEO of sony.
Can you do this?
It wasn't just the E3 reveal video for scarlett. It's AMD's press release on their official blog where they commit to it while labeling it next gen RDNA. It's also the official Series X reveal post. Microsoft is doubling and tripling down. Cerny's first example was regarding audio ray tracing, no big deal, likely a misunderstanding. He then clarifies hardware acceleratio on a follow-up. I now think the issue is dead. Then the AMD GitHub leak where it doesn't appear at all for ps5 chip, but does for Xbox series x chip. Now I'm rethinking what Cerny said and now have doubts. Then comes CES, they put up a slide showing it. I again think the issue is put to bed, only to then bizarrely learn that of all features on the slide, the guy on stage literally talks about everything on the slide, except hardware based ray tracing.
Consider that to mention every other feature on that slide, he had to skip past hardware ray tracing twice. I found that extremely odd. Why do they seem so reluctant to talk about one of the most hyped new graphics features coming into next gen? Do I expect to see it in every game? No, it's too demanding. Now I've left open the possibility that they may have it, but I have legitimate reason to doubt it now. Phil, again, has further confirmed hardware accelerated ray tracing via interviews also.
So, long story short, I see one side projecting confidence whereas I see the other being evasive on the issue. Maybe I'm wrong, and I will gladly eat crow. But I'm going to need to see it in a released title to believe it.
And, make no mistake, just because I believe Xbox really has it, doesn't mean that they, too, don't need to prove it from where I'm sitting. Both need to prove they have the real deal, or they shouldn't claim that they do. That's how I see it. So hopefully that's a complete enough answer on my thought process. It'll be the last time I address it, though, till we get more verifiable information on both consoles, but Sony have not portrayed the same degree of confidence where ray tracing is concerned. If we are being honest, there has been a clear difference between how the two sides have been marketing the feature.
Sigh... I got my posts deleted for less than this...More like you guys are on a mission to dictate to me what I should and shouldn't believe based on the impression i'm getting based on their communication thus far. Maybe it's you all who should just move on and leave me in my ignorance if that's how you choose to view it. Why is it so important to so many of you that I believe exactly what you all believe? I do not. I'm waiting on a final verdict in the form of a released AAA that demonstrates it. Just because I'm more convinced on the xbox side of things with regards to ray tracing doesn't mean I don't need to see clear proof of it there also. I do. So, are we all finally done? Hope so, because I'm not changing my view until I see what the situation is like once games start showing up.
Yes, I can. Give me the chance without another crazed fanboy trying to start an argument over dumb shit. I'm not the one triggered here.
Calm down, people, there can always be a State of Play.
Exactly.I don't know who are you replying to cause i got lots of people on ignore. But i imagine its the naturo avatar dude.
I think State of Play can't handle all of this juicy PS5 info. Unless they're going to turn it around for next-gen. It's mainly one or two surprises + a lot of VR / indie games.Calm down, people, there can always be a State of Play.
Or a Github tweet.Or a Wired article.
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This is hubris. This never happened. This is as real as your Zen in Scorpio. LmaoI can't doubt Sony? Same Sony who once told me I'd be getting dual 1080p 120fps from ps3 and talked like all ps3 games would be native 1080p because 720p was inferior. And then what happened? Can I call them liars?
LoL github can come out with a new tweet and Say its 13.5tf but they wouldn’t believe that oneOr a Github tweet.
Or a Github tweet.
Also i've stopped playing games. I'm so done and tired of current gen right now. I tried playing Death Stranding last week. Only lasted 20 mins before i turned off my PS4 Pro. I NEED PS5 and i need it NOW.
As a Github and Bitbucket user, sounds like one(and many others) doesn't know what Github is. And if you do, that statement(and by judging many of the replies to it) in context, is still nonsensical.Or a Github tweet.
A new gen only comes around every 7 years. It deserved a bigger event than that.Calm down, people, there can always be a State of Play.
The projection is strong in this one...Yes, I can. Give me the chance without another crazed fanboy trying to start an argument over dumb shit. I'm not the one triggered here. I'm just defending myself is all. If only there was an authority figure who could bring things to order. A mod maybe. In fact, I will do so starting now and ignore all other responses to me. Let's see if others can do the same.
Dead Space?