Report: PS3, Vita, And PSP Stores To Be Permanently Closed In A Few Months

Does it mean I can no longer download my digital purchases? I won't believe it. I think, they just won't let people purchase the games, but people should still be able to download games they purchased right?
 
My brothers both just got Vitas. The option for them going forward is to buy everything all at once and hope the games remain re-downloadable should they ever get deleted or put on an eyepatch.

I can't imagine keeping the storefront with Vita, PSP and PS3 games up costs more than it makes. It's not like Sony has a history of going all-out on security updates. At this point they're just shunning people that still use the old platforms. The only real option is to hack the thing and find another way to get games on it.

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Vae_Victis said:
There is a bit of both to be honest. Sony deciding to go this route is on Sony. The mere fact that all purchases/activations (or even downloads/license checks) of all the games on a given platform can be blocked from the top floor with one button press is inherent of the digital market.

With the physical market, even if all stores stop selling copies it is impossible to prevent individuals from selling or sharing their privately-owned copies. Unless the disk physically breaks, Sony stops having a say in what happens to my copy of a PS2 game the moment I have the disk in my hands. I can go and buy used games, I can create a freaking gaming library in common with 50 other people and have an always-accessible shared archive of games. In a digital market, most of these are impossible to begin withIt' and all can be prevented if the platform holder decides so, or even just goes under and shuts down operations.
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That's a related issue and not the issue at hand (as far we know). The rumor is that they will stop selling. Yes what you brought up are other problems with digital but what's supposedly going to happen right now is something that happens in the physical world too which is that they don't want to put the effort in selling old games. If it turns out that they won't let you download then sure it's a digital problem being presented.
 
jakinov said:
If it turns out that they won't let you download then sure it's a digital problem being presented.
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That will happen in the future, there is no doubt about it and when it does people will have lost purchases that they didn't have backed up. Oh and back-ups work only through the Content Manager which also relies on Sony's servers.
 
Trogdor1123 said:
You will still be able to get your games, just not buy new ones I think. Is that everyone else's reading?
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For a time and then they will kill that feature as well.

There really needs to be some protection for consumers who buy digital.
 
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I spent a weekend last year downloading a bunch of old purchases onto my PS3. I didn't realize that a lot of the titles had been removed from buying due to licensing issues. I have a few gems that were removed, can't really think of anything on there that is a must own. I spent a shit ton during the PS3 era. Great time for gaming though, at least for me it was.

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my main focus for digital content is scooping up the stuff on the WiiU eShop. I made sure to get Brain Age, I guess that's the main thing required in order to soft mod the system. Haven't done that yet but probably will, just gotta do more research.
 
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Fake said:
Where are all those digital only fanboys now?

Go, to , hell
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Oof, missed this comment cus I was too busy Playing some Morrowind on my XSX with a bevy of enhancements.


Not really but I was playing it last week, and have full faith it'll be there indefinitely.
 
Feels like potential to lose a lot of stuff for good like patches and DLC.
I could see this happening to the 360 store as well since they already migrated the compatible stuff to the current Xbox store.

There's always a chance that closing it down could mean an initiative to bring PS1-3 to PS5 in a way they couldn't before. (slim chance)
 
Zog said:
For a time and then they will kill that feature as well.

There really needs to be some protection for consumers who buy digital.
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Don't get me wrong, but why does there need to be any protections? I certainly wouldn't be against it, it just seems like we have to develop some good reasoning.

If a physical disc rots or ceases to work in a disc drive they don't owe you anything, how is this different? It's actually better as it doesn't have those concerns (albeit you do have others).

To be clear, not defending this practice or making apologies. I don't like it either but we need a more solid argument than "I want, so do".
 
Pantz said:
Feels like potential to lose a lot of stuff for good like patches and DLC.
I could see this happening to the 360 store as well since they already migrated the compatible stuff to the current Xbox store.

There's always a chance that closing it down could mean an initiative to bring PS1-3 to PS5 in a way they couldn't before. (slim chance)
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PSP store has been closed for some time, and you can still download your digital content via the account list.

Delisted games from PS3 to the PS4 still receive patches.
 
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I guess aside from the 20 or so guys on neogaf and other enthusiast boards no one cares if 1--2 decade old digitally distributed software vanishes.
 
Perrott said:
Let's be real: this same thing would've happened with or without Jim Ryan.
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time.com

Everything Sony Told Us About the Future of PlayStation

Ahead of E3 2017 next week
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Another concern occasionally raised by PlayStation devotees involves the company's once-ubiquitous PlayStation 2. While Sony has in recent years devoted resources to bringing a handful of popular older titles to the PlayStation 4, the better part of that library is lost to time. For now, it seems that's where it'll remain.

"When we've dabbled with backwards compatibility, I can say it is one of those features that is much requested, but not actually used much," says Ryan. "That, and I was at a Gran Turismo event recently where they had PS1, PS2, PS3 and PS4 games, and the PS1 and the PS2 games, they looked ancient, like why would anybody play this?"
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Zog said:
Wouldn't that be expected since the Vita came out 6 years after the PS3?


Everyone? ....and we have been saying it for years.
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Because PS3 is a way bigger install base.

For my physical media comment I was talking more about reasonable amounts of time and compared to Steam and GOG. I'm new to PC Steam/GOG stuff and you still buy games that were added in the 2000s. I'm sure someone in the world is physically trading vacuum tube technology from 1950s era tech, but those are few and far between.
 
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This is why I don't like digital.

Haven't read everything: is the Psone classics transfer to new platforms ? It's the only games I would buy on the PS3 store
 
Trogdor1123 said:
If a physical disc rots or ceases to work in a disc drive they don't owe you anything, how is this different?
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A physical disc takes a long time to rot. I haven't ever had it happen and I have some PlayStation 1 games. If we could get some protections like 'the games will be available for re-download for 20 years' then availability might be the same length of time as it takes a game to rot (minimum).

StreetsofBeige said:
Because PS3 is a way bigger install base.
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That's the best argument for avoiding digital. They may as well say 'don't buy from us digitally because if this platform isn't successful enough, we will pull digital support from it sooner'.
 
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StreetsofBeige said:
That's the digital way. Move people to new platforms.

Funny thing is digital was promoted as the "infinite" storefront where games (like oldies on GOG) can sit there forever for sale.

Who knew used discs being sold person to person would outlast them.
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No that's the Playstation way. OG Xbox and 360 games work just fine on the XSX/XSS and Steam can still play games from over a decade and a half ago.
 
Zog said:
A physical disc takes a long time to rot. I haven't ever had it happen and I have some PlayStation 1 games. If we could get some protections like 'the games will be available for re-download for 20 years' then availability might be the same length of time as it takes a game to rot (minimum).


That's the best argument for avoiding digital. They may as well say 'don't buy from us digitally because if this platform isn't successful enough, we will pull digital support from it sooner'.
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Sony pulling access really comes to two reason (well 3 if you combine both):

1. Not worth the costs and hassle. Hardly anyone is buying Vita and PS3 games online, so can it. No different than any company shutting down a game's MP service because it's not worth running servers for the last 12 guys playing it on Earth

2. Move people to buying newer systems, newer games, and games now have lots of mtx. I dont know. Maybe Sony research shows there's too many people still playing old games forever and those oldies had hardly any mtx like nowadays

3. Both
 
nani17 said:
And they say digital is the way to go
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It is. Now, look:

Physical games are in a hard situation, does it mean it's ok to shit on them because there will be eventually no place to purchase them?

I literally see no wrong on the news regarding digital games in general, people is currently on PS4 right now (not even PS5), people that purchased their games will still have access to their catalog, who's even buying on those stores?
 
If they do this i'm out of their ecosystem this is some hot garbage. First they make it super hard to access the legacy library and they are now gonna make it impossible? Fuck them sideways if this is true, i'm not buying shit in their ecosystem ever again and you bet i'm telling everyone i know to not do it either.
 
DeepEnigma said:
PSP store has been closed for some time, and you can still download your digital content via the account list.

Delisted games from PS3 to the PS4 still receive patches.
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I mean more like DLC that you don't own. Guess now is the time to get it if you really want it.
Good to hear about patches.
 
Papacheeks said:
The article is specific to talking about buying the games, not downloading them if you already own them? Or does this mean you also wont be able to download previous purchases for said psp/psvita? Can someone clarify?
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how the fuck are you going to search games without the store front? Sony removed all your games from the web store which was the only way to search for shit on older systems, if they only retain the dowload lists for the old systems it's gonna be almost imposible to look for anything in your libraries unless you only own a couple of games.

This is fucking bullshit, they are doing it step by step to reduce the outrage so when they finally phase it out it doesn't come as big news.
 
My sources, which are just as good as TheGamer dot coms sources, have said that this story is not true.

SMH head at the chaos caused by one anonymous tip news story from some no-name website. I'll wait for Sony's official statement on it before I hit my panic button.
 
cireza said:
The download list that is... in the store they are removing.
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No, the download list that is in your account options. You don't need to go into the store to access that master list. I do it for PSP all the time on the Vita, and that store has been closed for years now.
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I mean more like DLC that you don't own. Guess now is the time to get it if you really want it.
Good to hear about patches.
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Correct.

Driveclub was delisted, but you can still download it and receive the final patch if on disc. Bikes (add-on or standalone) can no longer be purchased, but if you already own it, it can be downloaded as well into the game.
 
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Can't you only download games from the library a certain amount of times before you have to purchase it again?

Anyway I'm pretty content with my 120+ PS3 games sitting on my shelf. Fuck all this digital future shit and fuck all of you who shill it.
 
StreetsofBeige said:
Sony pulling access really comes to two reason (well 3 if you combine both):

1. Not worth the costs and hassle. Hardly anyone is buying Vita and PS3 games online, so can it. No different than any company shutting down a game's MP service because it's not worth running servers for the last 12 guys playing it on Earth

2. Move people to buying newer systems, newer games, and games now have lots of mtx. I dont know. Maybe Sony research shows there's too many people still playing old games forever and those oldies had hardly any mtx like nowadays

3. Both
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So fuck the consumer who invested in the platform by buying digital games. Those customers who bought physical Vita cards will have years and years to play their games but the suckers who bought digitally are just SOL.

I say again, there needs to be protections for consumers who buy digital, especially since the market is heading towards all digital.
 
theHFIC said:
My sources, which are just as good as TheGamer dot coms sources, have said that this story is not true.

SMH head at the chaos caused by one anonymous tip news story from some no-name website. I'll wait for Sony's official statement on it before I hit my panic button.
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This is real, unfortunately. Colin mentioned on his Sacred Symbols podcast that a new Vita game is coming out soon, Scourgebringer, and it's probably going to be the last one released. Here's the dev's tweets:




Their official twitter account is here, which retweets these.
 
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Zog said:
I say again, there needs to be protections for consumers who buy digital, especially since the market is heading towards all digital.
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The overall response will be you got to move along with technology. And just because it's digital doesn't mean it can carry over to all devices even though it seems someone on a PC can still run legacy PC programs from the 90s due to its flexibility.

At some point nobody sold cassettes tapes anymore. You had to resort to trading to with friends, or now go on eBay and find a guy selling a copy of Thriller on a cassette. Or you moved to CDs. You can still buy cassettes on the used market and play it on a tape deck. But Sony is going to cut cord for some legacy PS systems. So if you want it, you got to go elsewhere. And if they are the only source (digital file to buy), their view is buy up now before the cut off date and keep your old system.
 
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