That says more about cable than GP.
How high can Gamepass go before it’s too expensive?
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aclar00
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Undoubtedly, which i believe is why MSFT bought Betheseda and Activision....to increase their library and make the sheer amount of content so high that even if other providers have better quality they would still be competitive or perceived as a better value.
A few of the other big publishers can probably jave their own as well and so could Sony and Nintendo. MSFT just doesnt want to want to develop studios as that would take too long to provide the quantity of content (old and new) they likely want for Gamepass.
Kdad
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I'm patient...I buy my games at 30 and under and I'm a slow player...so 3 to 4 games a year max (plus all my backlog that I replay). 10/month would be max as I wouldn't get the value out of it.For everyone who votes for "it's to expensive...
I have a library of at least 40 EGS games that I got for free and haven't played one yet...imagine if I was paying for it!
Decontamination Silo
Banned
I've always said I'd pay $60/mo for Steam Pass
During the 360 days it was my main console and back then I would've had no problem paying €20-25 a month on a subsciption, if, and only if, that would include lots of the games I like to play.
They would need a hell of a lot more Japanese support for that though. Gamepass as it stands right now just doesnt offer me enough value, even if you include the potential Activision games.
They would need a hell of a lot more Japanese support for that though. Gamepass as it stands right now just doesnt offer me enough value, even if you include the potential Activision games.
dorkimoe
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Yeah
The price right now is actually low and I wouldn't be upset if they raised it. Halo alone would have cost me $60
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
I would be okay with 25 if the value remains.
Majima Everywhere System
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Most of the games im interested in are 5-15 on sale. I'll do just fine without it, so 15 is max.
reinking
Gold Member
For full time subscription? When I can no longer get it through deals. Anything past that I will only sub on the months there is a game I want to play.
edit- I wonder how many people are currently paying full price. Especially out of those that voted $25 or more.
edit- I wonder how many people are currently paying full price. Especially out of those that voted $25 or more.
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Elysion
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Yeah, the lack of flexibility in regards to ownership of a game is my biggest gripe with these subscription models. I thought an interesting idea would be a kind of time-based payment system for games, where you pay a small amount of money per hour of playtime, but each dollar you spent that way gets subtracted from the game's full price.
So let's say you want to try the newest Assassins Creed, which allows you to play for 1 dollar per hour. If you like the game and keep playing, the money you spend adds up, until you eventually have spent an amount equal to the game's full price, at which point you're recognized as the owner of the game, and can play from then on without paying anymore. If you stop playing before that, the amount you've spent until then will nonetheless remain subtracted from the game's full price permanently, allowing you to purchase it for this reduced price at any later point if you want.
The advantage of such a system is that it would combine the big advantage of a subscription model – namely the ability to try many different games without spending too much money – with the biggest advantage of the traditional model – namely the potential for full ownership of any game you desire.
The prices would probably have to be adjusted for different kinds of games (shorter single-player games would probably offer less playtime per hour than big rpgs, for example). Though I have no idea whether something like this would be viable and (more importantly) profitable in the long run. One one hand, the ability to pay for short amounts of playtime could mean that people might spend less time and money on games they would've bought at full price otherwise. On the other hand, without having to commit to buying a full game immediately, they might spend time and money on games they wouldn't have touched at all otherwise, so it might still work out.
BigBooper
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I loaded up on the gold transfer deal for three years so I haven't weighed a normal monthly subscription against it yet. I suspect if it were more than $20 a month then I would only subscribe when there were a few things built up that I wanted to play and then cancel for a while.
At $20, I feel like I'd probably stay subscribed.
At $20, I feel like I'd probably stay subscribed.
ChuckeRearmed
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.I expect the price increase - somewhere in the future - from 15 to 18 to 20. But it is at least 2-3 years from here.
I believe hard limit is 20 for the next 5-10 years. Depends on inflation.
I believe hard limit is 20 for the next 5-10 years. Depends on inflation.
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mekes
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I'm not currently willing to pay extra. I'm glad they are adding to their first party for as far as gamepass is concerned. But in reality those publishers don't really create games that I enjoy. I have an interest in seeing what this does to the service over the next couple of years, but there is no saying I will enjoy it. So I'm pretty weary about price increases at the moment. The value is decent at the moment.
Torrent of Pork
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I'd eat another $10 a month for GP as it is, and still come out on top at the end of the year. Roll something else into it that I'd be willing to pay for, and that might change.
llLeonhart
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Granted MS games never leave the service, 20$ max.
BusierDonkey
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If the price goes up a little as time goes on I'll evaluate my time spent vs my cost and go from there. If it becomes a bad deal or the content goes to shit for some reason I'll drop it as fast as I dropped Netflix when they turned into a garbage dump. Currently I'm playing way more games than the money I'm spending on the service. I used to rent cartridges as a kid for $7 for two days (in 1980's money) so $15 for a selection of hundreds of games including new ones every month still seems like an insane price to me.
Kacho
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I do. I only want to pay for what I'll actively use and it was only a month or two. I have a huge existing library on my Xbox already so I don't need access to an additional 200+ games.
Fuz
Banned
I know nothing about finance, but this seems... really bad.
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From price increase and missed subscribers number.
Why did it happen?
grfunkulus
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I'm mean, there's the 'for plebes' answer and then there's the answer for folks that get deals using conversion deals and shady gray market sites that get you 3x the value for a little "lookin' the other way". If it ever gets too expensive going the legit way, I'm out.
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From price increase and missed subscribers number.
The fundamental issue with Netflix is that they don't have another revenue stream and don't get their gaming strategy yet unless they plan to take gamers onboard before introducing fakes with mtx/DLC.
Lukaku's First Touch
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Fill me in bro. How do I cheat the system?
16 -18 euros / dollars. For ultimate , maybe twenty a month .
Maybe tiers,
tier 1 : BC and indie
Tier 2: bc , indie , MS games
Tier 2,5 Indie and call of duty
Tier 3: all games / ultimate
Anything is possible .
Bonus tiers : Warcraft tier, blizzard tier, Bethesda tier etc etc
Maybe tiers,
tier 1 : BC and indie
Tier 2: bc , indie , MS games
Tier 2,5 Indie and call of duty
Tier 3: all games / ultimate
Anything is possible .
Bonus tiers : Warcraft tier, blizzard tier, Bethesda tier etc etc
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Kagey K
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The other problem is they seem to be eternally set in growth mode.
Thier only answer is to raise subscribers and prices.
If either of those misses they get hooped. They have no plan beyond that.
If 7.8 billion people subscribed tomorrow, how do they continue growth?
Investors need to realize this is no longer a growth stock and it needs to start paying dividends.
Only then will we see what it's really worth.
The adjustment coming 8n the next couple months (and beyond if DC stops printing money) should really show how overinflated some of these valuations have become.
(Thus wasn't why I pointed this out in this conversation though, OP said they raised prices without a flinch, and I thought it was the wrong example as there was a giant flinch)
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Fess
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You could prepay the subscription with XBLG and EAPlay cards and they got transfered to Gamepass Ultimate for about half the usual price. It's not a monthly subscription anymore but more like an investment, if I split it up I pay roughly $5 per month for Gamepass Ultimate until mid 2024. Worth every penny for sure.
Not sure if those deals work anymore though. There is also an even cheaper way where you farm $1 Gamepass 1 month deals.
You can use Microsoft Rewards to earn extra Gamepass months too.
Caio
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20 euro per month, even though it will never go so high. I pay 39 euro every 3 months, and it's perfect considering how many great games I'm playing right now. I just downloaded Hitman Trilogy, and considering Hitman III is one of the best Game on XSX, plus all contents, well, you do the math by yourself.
JimmyRustler
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I don't think they'll be charging more until they have a bigger market share than Sony. Ans this is going to be a while. My guess is that for this generation MS will mainly aim to increase the subscriptions and not touch the price point in any way.
Brofist
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Well considering this question is for current subscribers that option is met by not clicking on this thread.
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Tams
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I knew someone would make that comment (but hoped you'd have had the brains not to).
I doesn't exist in a bubble. And '0, because it doesn't appeal to me/I disagree with it' is a choice, and a valid one. OP was asking about its value to people and that is a value.
Psychostar
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Talk about an unpopular opinion. You'd happily pay the price of a new triple a game each month to have access to a service that doesn't let you keep any of them when you are not paying it?
Gamepass is fucking awesome but it is desirable due to it's affordability for people in many different walks of life.
70 a month would have you afford to just flat out buy many of it's games straight up instead of using the service , as many of the games are cheap to buy due to their gradual decrease in price for having been out and discounted over time or simply not popular enough to make the purchase .
GHG
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I subscribe on and off to try out a bunch of games and decide whether they are worth buying.
Anything above 15 and it's not even worth me doing that.
Their growth potential hit a wall - the vast majority of people that could subscribe are already subscribed. They aren't making enough money as a business, hence they raised their prices to get more money from their existing customers because the outlook looks bleak from a revenue growth perspective.
This is why I just laugh when people behave like these subscription services can grow quickly with huge YoY % increases forever. It's just not realistic. There will come a point when everyone knows about it and the people that want to subscribe will have already done so.
And with what are they going to pay these dividends with? Debt? They don't have the cash flow to do so if they also want to continue to create/acquire content for the platform.
Anything above 15 and it's not even worth me doing that.
Their growth potential hit a wall - the vast majority of people that could subscribe are already subscribed. They aren't making enough money as a business, hence they raised their prices to get more money from their existing customers because the outlook looks bleak from a revenue growth perspective.
This is why I just laugh when people behave like these subscription services can grow quickly with huge YoY % increases forever. It's just not realistic. There will come a point when everyone knows about it and the people that want to subscribe will have already done so.
And with what are they going to pay these dividends with? Debt? They don't have the cash flow to do so if they also want to continue to create/acquire content for the platform.
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Dr.Morris79
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I thought i'd never hear 'too cheap' in regards to things you dont own
We live in the best timeline
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
If every game from every publisher released on the service from day one, plus with the guarantee that the games will never leave the service, then yes, I'd pay £70 per month.
StealthGoblin
Banned
It's great value for what it is, but I don't think I'd want it any higher. Given that it doesn't have Sony or Nintendo games which I'd have to pay for still, and I have subs for Netflix, Amazon and Disney, I don't think I'd eat a price increase. There just aren't enough 'big games' to my tastes on it (even with Zenimax and Activision) that hold my attention.
TheGodfather07
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Most people are used to subscriptions being under £10 a month. I think £15 would be the upper limit and that's with a very high quality service.