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[MikeM]

With the launch of the 9070xt and the wide price gaps between it and the 5070ti, i’m wondering what the maximum % difference you would pay for a Nvidia card over the AMD equivalent?

For me, I got the 9070xt TUF OC for $1,059 before tax. The 5070ti is $1,449 which is a 37% “Nvidia tax” but it seems many pay it. Now I know this is an Asus comparison and not MSRP cards, but MSRP is largely a fairy tale so am comparing identical AIB cards as a reference point.

Edit: Canadian “free healthcare” pricing.

 

[Spukc]

Fuck all

 

[Three]

With the launch of the 9070xt and the wide price gaps between it and the 5070ti, i’m wondering what the maximum % difference you would pay for a Nvidia card over the AMD equivalent?

For me, I got the 9070xt TUF OC for $1,059 before tax. The 5070ti is $1,449 which is a 37% “Nvidia tax” but it seems many pay it. Now I know this is an Asus comparison and not MSRP cards, but MSRP is largely a fairy tale so am comparing identical AIB cards as a reference point.

Honestly at the midrange performance level I wouldn't even buy nvidia, so I guess 0?

 

[Magic Carpet]

Fuck all

This,
Nvidia has clearly shown they don't want my money or my 'tax'.

 

[poodaddy]

Nada.

 

[MrTroubleMaker]

 

[Topher]

Not going to pay any "tax" moving forward. It just isn't worth it. I'll buy the best $600-700 card available. Right now, that's AMD so that's what I bought.

 

[ssringo]

~$800 is my limit on a GPU and I'll buy the best GPU I can get for that price. I don't care who makes it.

 

[delirium trigger]

Did you pay the scalper tax?

 

[GHG]

Not much now that AMD have got their house in order with FSR4.

If they can further close the RT performance gap then nobody who is only using these cards for gaming will have any reason to pay "Nvidia tax" at all.

 

[Topher]

Did you pay the scalper tax?

I think he paid the "it sucks to be Canadian" tax

 

[ReBurn]

None. I bought my 40 series card just before the 50 series announcement just to get what I wanted at the price I wanted. It’s not the latest but it’s pretty great.

 

[GHG]

I think he paid the "it sucks to be Canadian" tax

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

 

[cinnamonandgravy]

I got the 9070xt TUF OC for $1,059 before tax.

9070xt advertised as a $600 gpu and it cost you $1100?

sitting this crap out

 

[MikeM]

9070xt advertised as a $600 gpu and it cost you $1100?

sitting this crap out

CAD

 

[delirium trigger]

I just assumed you had to be paying scalper prices because the chances of being able to get both at msrp is one in a million right now.

 

[MikeM]

I think he paid the "it sucks to be Canadian" tax

“Health care tax.” Came in handy when I tore my Achilles and it cost me $0 for all the specialist visits, MRI and ultrasounds.

Elon “needs 20 baby mommas” Musk. He almost cried on a Fox interview today lol

 

[DaleinCalgary]

Not up on my PC stuff anymore but I would only pay for comparable performance. I never had an issue in my old days with a AMD cpu.

 

[Danny Dudekisser]

I'd pay the $2,000 if it wasn't just software gimmicks tacked onto a borderline non-upgrade in terms of hardware. It's still a fucking stupid price tag, though.

 

[hououinkyouma00]

Fuck Nvidia. Unless they do something very customer forward in the future (they won't) they can suck my dick.

Enough of you people deepthroat them all the time that they don't care.

 

[LavitzSlambert]

Spoiler

$3.50 not $350

 

[flying_sq]

When the 30 series cards came out I picked up a 6900xt as my first AMD card after using Nvidia since a 7600GT. I was happy with a performance, playing BF5, then I found out about AMD driver issues that I heard about since the ATI days. Went to zoom in with a certain rifle, and it just hard crashes the game, no way around it. Found out about various issues like that with AMD. As soon as I got a chance, went back to Nvidia with a 3090 ti. So unless there is a serious performance gap in AMD's favor, I'll just stick with Nvidia until they implode or something, which seems to be happening with the 50 series cards.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

AMD doesn't have a competitor to the 5090 that I want so I guess the maximum tax is infinity for me

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Moore's Law Is Dead dropped a truth bomb a while ago:

People want "competition" against Nvidia not because they want to buy AMD or Intel, but because they want to buy Nvidia at a lower price.

Jensen has everyone by the balls.

 

[BennyBlanco]

AMD needs a high tier card again. FSR4 actually seems good and they are getting better at raytracing.

Honestly that Nvidia CES presentation told me so much about where they are currently at as a company, which is to say all over the fucking place. That absolute assault of buzzwords was insane. AI HR agents. AI chef arms. AI warehouse cameras. They are done giving a shit about GPUs for gamers unless AMD really threatens their market share. Will be interesting to see how the steam hardware survey shakes out the next few years.

 

[T4keD0wN]

Id pay double for 5070ti compared to 9070xt, but its more like id pay half for amd than paying double for nvidia.

People want "competition" against Nvidia not because they want to buy AMD or Intel, but because they want to buy Nvidia at a lower price.

 

[Kacho]

The 4070 TI is probably the last GPU I buy

 

[R3TRO]

Pretty much whatever…I’m not interested in some underpowered amd hardware.

 

[rm082e]

Moore's Law Is Dead dropped a truth bomb a while ago:

People want "competition" against Nvidia not because they want to buy AMD or Intel, but because they want to buy Nvidia at a lower price.

Jensen has everyone by the balls.

Yep. That's true, and I've always been one of those people. I just want Nvidia to have to work for the money I'm going to give them.

Because Nvidia doesn't have to work for the money I always give them, they've lost their damn minds with this 5000 series. It took things getting this bad to make me open to AMD. It seems like they knocked it out of the park with the 9070. Sadly, I'm just in the market for that tier of performance.

 

[Shodai]

After this generation + AMD's response, not a damn thing.

I can't believe it, but whatever generation comes next, I'm probably going AMD if they bring a high-end offering.

 

[StereoVsn]

I decided that about 20% is what I would pay more. 9070xt is $600 and chances of getting 5070Ti for $720 are between and .

 

[jaydogg691]

I didn’t realize my 4070Ti Super was $800 MSRP, but had a $200 GC to offset some the cost.

Now I don’t feel that bad with this years GPU launches.

 

[dgrdsv]

For me, I got the 9070xt TUF OC for $1,059 before tax. The 5070ti is $1,449 which is a 37% “Nvidia tax” but it seems many pay it.

That's because 9070 XT is nowhere close to 5070 Ti i.e. your comparison is wrong.

 

[Pagusas]

Depends.

For gaming only hardware? 2.5k for a GPU is my line in the sand. When the 5090 Astral came out at 3k, I decided I wouldn’t buy it even if it was in stock, even though I like the card a lot.

For my business though? No limit if it saves time and helps bring in money.

 

[CLW]

 

[Three]

That's because 9070 XT is nowhere close to 5070 Ti i.e. your comparison is wrong.

It's not that far off

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Moore's Law Is Dead dropped a truth bomb a while ago:

People want "competition" against Nvidia not because they want to buy AMD or Intel, but because they want to buy Nvidia at a lower price.

Jensen has everyone by the balls.

Everyone's known this for years though, it's not something that nobody realizes

The problem for AMD has always been, how can they actually make a product that is so good people are willing to switch from Nvidia

The 9070 is good yes, for the first time in almost a decade AMD is almost at feature parity with Nvidia

But that still isn't enough to make people switch from Nvidia, it needs to be much better just not just almost as good

It's the same dilemma Apple's competitors have been grappling with for years too

 

[bender]

Not going to pay any "tax" moving forward. It just isn't worth it. I'll buy the best $600-700 card available. Right now, that's AMD so that's what I bought.

 

[RafterXL]

Until AMD gets their heads out of their asses, I'll pay retail (not scalper) prices, for a flagship Nvidia card, because AMD has no alternative. I own a 4090 and was going to sit out the 50xx series anyway, but when the 6090 drops I'll probably end up buying that because there simply isn't another option at the highest end.

Even if I were buying a mid range card, I'd have to get 90% of the performance AND features of a Nvidia card, regardless of how much cheaper, to consider an AMD card.

Moore's Law Is Dead dropped a truth bomb a while ago:

People want "competition" against Nvidia not because they want to buy AMD or Intel, but because they want to buy Nvidia at a lower price.

Jensen has everyone by the balls.

He has everyone by the balls because he has no competition. Performance isn't the only metric for buying a graphics card. Nvidias feature set just blows AMDs out of the water, so even an exactly performant card from AMD would be less preferable. Of course we want to buy an Nvidia card at a lower price, but if AMD released a card just as fast as a flagship Nvidia card, and had just as robust a feature set, I'd 100% have no problem buying an AMD card. But they don't, and they probably never will, so the best most of us can hope for is they make a fast enough card that it makes Nvidia lower prices so we can get a cheaper Nvidia version.

 

[Crayon]

I think you might be over valuing the mind share and marketing. There's some of that going on, but up until a week ago, their cards were offering features that were a step and a half ahead of AMD.

With the 9070xt, I think a lot of us were saying it had to be 500 or $550 to really excite people. But as it turns out, AMD caught up pretty close on the dlss and rt. Word got out pretty quick on that. The value gap has closed in a real way.

Just saying the buying public deserves a little credit, here. I don't think they're willing to pay much of a premium just to have the Nvidia logo buried in the case of their pc.

 

[Black_Stride]

For purely gaming..........probably nothing.
Seeing that the 9070XT and 5070Ti are pretty much neck and neck for such a difference of price.
Realistically id never buy a 5070Ti............unless I needed CUDA.

That's because 9070 XT is nowhere close to 5070 Ti i.e. your comparison is wrong.

On average across a number of games the 9070XT is like ~5% slower than a 5070Ti
Even in RT games the 9070XT is maybe ~10% slower than the 5070Ti.

They are direct competitors.

 

[Soodanim]

nVidia arent just taking the piss with their prices, but they're taking the piss with their spec too. Every VRAM tier is designed to push you to the next one, and we are all well aware that the lower tiers lack any sort of future proofing. The reason I was looking to AMD is because nVidia put me in a position where I didn't want to get a gimped lower tier but I didn't want to pay their stupid prices for anything higher. We all KNOW they fake bumped their tier system, too.

AMD have come along and offered a competent product that provides what people want at a decent enough price again and the result hasn't been surprising. Unless my eventual 9070 XT turns out to be an absolute disaster I have no trouble ignoring nVidia for the foreseeable future. AMD might be frustrating in their lack of willingness to compete a lot of the time, but they got it right this time round and that's all I need. We'll address what happens in 5+ years when we get to it.

 

[nkarafo]

I will never pay more than whatever something is worth. Especially for a luxury item such as a GPU, even if i can afford it. And right now no Nvidia card is worth their price.

I love PC gaming but i find myself spending more time with older games and emulation anyway. If i have no choice for cheaper access to modern games i can just get a console.

 

[Zathalus]

I have a specific budget, whatever gives me the best performance and feature set for that budget gets my money. Be it Nvidia or AMD doesn’t really matter to me.

 

[GymWolf]

Depends on how superior they are, right now it seems like amd is catching up with fsr4 so i would not pay a huge tax.

 

[Jinzo Prime]

Moore's Law Is Dead dropped a truth bomb a while ago:

People want "competition" against Nvidia not because they want to buy AMD or Intel, but because they want to buy Nvidia at a lower price.

Jensen has everyone by the balls.

Not me. I went team red because paying $250+ more for raytracing and DLSS wasn't worth it.

 

[dreamstation]

Zero. Need to build a new PC for the missus and the whole situation is ridiculous. How do you have a release date but no stock to go with it? It's all a scam to drive up pricing. Should be illegal.

 

[Makoto-Yuki]

I paid £1800 over the retail price for my 5090 which is £1940

totally worth it. this card is amazing. trying to get a 9950X3D to let the 5090 go even further

 

[Hawk The Slayer]

Around 50 dollars so for example if the RTX 5060 TI is 400 dollars and AMD released a GPU that has the same spec as it for 350 dollars. I would still get the Nvidia card for 50 dollars more since I have never used AMD before so don't know how long they last while my GTX 1070 has been in use for around 8 years now and still working. I would imagine Nvidia cards might generate less heat at least that's the narrative I got around a decade ago with the whole thing about how AMD runs hotter than Nvidia back then.