The wrist watch thread.

jason10mm said:
I don't wear Rolex as a beater. To the pool/hot tub to impress the ladies is one thing, but if I KNOW I'm gonna be sticking my hand into a nest of iron pipes and concrete or working with power tools, I wear a cheap watch that can get scuffed or scratched, pop a strap pin and fall off, whatever, and I won't cry (much) about it. But if I drag a rolex across concrete.....no way. Despite their origins as tough and reliable tool watches, Rolex has loooooooong since past that by just due to the economics of fixing anything.

Tudor....maybe. I would wear a Pelagos or FXD to go diving, which I wouldn't do with ANY Submariner. A. you don't need that type of dive watch anymore, B. there are 'as good' options, and C. good luck getting it fixed/repaired in a reasonable amount of time or cost.
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This is just reality. Rolex has long LONG since forsaken their "tool" watch origins. Yuppies like to say that their Rolex has all this functionality (and, they do), but very VERY few are using them for their original built purpose. For most people treating a 10K-15K (retail) jewelry piece is either (i) incredibly stupid because 10K is a nice little chunk of money for most people, or (ii) you are a complete douche treating your 10K piece of jewelry like shit because 10K is, in fact, nothing to you. (Don't get me wrong, there are some awesome Rolex pieces).

Specifically with "divers", anyone scuba diving is using a dive computer. And, if I know Im going to absolutely beat the fuck out of my arm doing something, Im strapping on my G-Shock Rangeman (but most G-Shocks will do). Its more accurate, tougher, and has better functionality and features than any mechanical watch. (But its not jewelry).

Tudor is definitely closer to what Rolex started doing with their sports watches in the 50s. That Black Bay 58, specifically, is quite good, but then you run into other issues. Namely, they still aren't cheap, there are better tools out there, and some idiots (not that it should matter, but, it does to at least a little extent), think its just someone who wanted a Rolex, but couldn't afford it.

(And, if one is choosing a watch to try and pick up women with it....LOL, that's beyond silly. I would be very wary of any women that is attracted to a person just because they have a Rolex (and there are way better and more expensive watches out there) strapped to their wrist. BUT, that said, if it gives a person more confidence, then that may matter. )

Days like these... said:
I don't want a Rolex. I'm damn nearly destitute. Im not trying to look like I have money. If I had money sure I'd buy one but owning one would make me feel like a fraud.
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If you are "damn nearly destitute", then why are you wanting to buy a watch at all?

If this is truly the case, but you still just want a watch, then consider

a Tissot PRX,
a Seiko Turtle Diver,
a Seiko 5, or
a Casio "Oak" GMB2100SD-1A (if you have a bigger wrist), or a Casio GST-B600D-1A (if you want something smaller).
OR, if you want to look a big hipster, a
G-Shock GWM5610-1,
or even cheaper hipster, the Casio F91w.


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Days like these... said:
Thanks for the advice that's why I posted. In America I can get it for $500 still not worth?
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Days like these... said:
I don't want a Rolex. I'm damn nearly destitute. Im not trying to look like I have money. If I had money sure I'd buy one but owning one would make me feel like a fraud.
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IMO it's not about money, this is just a tacky Frankenwatch, as we call them. Double aperture date window is found on some high end brands and requires serious engineering to change at midnight i.e. the spring is wound throughout the day to execute the change exactly at midnight. This is serious horological engineering called "instantaneous date change". Exactly the same as "jumping seconds" which is shown as a difference between a quartz and mechanical watches - typically in a mechanical watch the seconds hand will glide, however you can also engineer a "jumping seconds" hand, which is much more difficult to do, watches with this functionality sell at a premium.

Week subdial is a bit easier but still, requires a (usually) mechanical movement to have a few extra pieces, which adds complexity. There is a famous brand Ochs and Junior that has both annual and perpetual calendars with minimum number of extra pieces, but that is because they were designed by Ludwig Oechslin, who is as close as you can get to a watchmaking superstar. Also their perpetual runs 21k CHF.

The case of that monstrocity you posted looks to be Gerald Genta inspired, he is the one that famously designed Royal Oak, Nautilus, Omega Constellation, etc. Their worldtimers are direct copy paste from Patek's worldtimers. I guess if you steal you steal from the best:

SHIT
HOT

To sum up: The only people that this watch will impress know nothing about watches, and if they know anything they will not hold a watch like this in high regard.

If you can make it work I heavily recommend you get Tissot Powermatic PRX (US MSRP $725 before tax), for this amount it is a ridiculous deal:
1. Mechanical
2. 80 hour power reserve which is really good
3. Blue dial + steel watch which is the hottest thing on the planet and has been for at least a decade now
4. Real horological company with tradition

I ran a Chrono24 search HERE, for full set new and in the US the prices $550-$600.
 
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Raven117 said:
If you are "damn nearly destitute", then why are you wanting to buy a watch at all?

If this is truly the case, but you still just want a watch, then consider

a Tissot PRX,
a Seiko Turtle Diver,
a Seiko 5, or
a Casio "Oak" GMB2100SD-1A (if you have a bigger wrist), or a Casio GST-B600D-1A (if you want something smaller).
OR, if you want to look a big hipster, a
G-Shock GWM5610-1,
or even cheaper hipster, the Casio F91w.


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OK, I might have exaggerated a little. I do ok but I don't want one I'd feel like a fraud. Let's not try to unpack that I know it's a me problem. I appreciate all you guys watch suggestions
 
Cyberpunkd said:
IMO it's not about money, this is just a tacky Frankenwatch, as we call them. Double aperture date window is found on some high end brands and requires serious engineering to change at midnight i.e. the spring is wound throughout the day to execute the change exactly at midnight. This is serious horological engineering called "instantaneous date change". Exactly the same as "jumping seconds" which is shown as a difference between a quartz and mechanical watches - typically in a mechanical watch the seconds hand will glide, however you can also engineer a "jumping seconds" hand, which is much more difficult to do, watches with this functionality sell at a premium.

Week subdial is a bit easier but still, requires a (usually) mechanical movement to have a few extra pieces, which adds complexity. There is a famous brand Ochs and Junior that has both annual and perpetual calendars with minimum number of extra pieces, but that is because they were designed by Ludwig Oechslin, who is as close as you can get to a watchmaking superstar. Also their perpetual runs 21k CHF.

The case of that monstrocity you posted looks to be Gerald Genta inspired, he is the one that famously designed Royal Oak, Nautilus, Omega Constellation, etc. Their worldtimers are direct copy paste from Patek's worldtimers. I guess if you steal you steal from the best:

SHIT
HOT

To sum up: The only people that this watch will impress know nothing about watches, and if they know anything they will not hold a watch like this in high regard.

If you can make it work I heavily recommend you get Tissot Powermatic PRX (US MSRP $725 before tax), for this amount it is a ridiculous deal:
1. Mechanical
2. 80 hour power reserve which is really good
3. Blue dial + steel watch which is the hottest thing on the planet and has been for at least a decade now
4. Real horological company with tradition

I ran a Chrono24 search HERE, for full set new and in the US the prices $550-$600.
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Thanks for the lesson. I'm learning.
 
Days like these... said:
Thanks for the lesson. I'm learning.
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No worries, and sorry if I was too critical, that was not my intention. Let me know what type of watches you like, we will be able to suggest something. Raven117 Raven117 posted good suggestions as well, Seiko is really good if you are on a budget, although I would only go for Turtle, never for 5, it looks too plasticky for me.
 
Days like these... said:
OK, I might have exaggerated a little. I do ok but I don't want one I'd feel like a fraud. Let's not try to unpack that I know it's a me problem. I appreciate all you guys watch suggestions
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No worries, why don't you check out Cyberpunkd's and my suggestions and see if any of those look good to you? From there, we can help better identify your style and come up with better suggestions.

I would suggest thinking about watches more like jewelry/accessories. You have to try them on, see how it looks like on you. What looks good on on you, may look terrible on Cyber or me. You just have to see how it all fits into your style. And perhaps most importantly...when you first put it on, it sings to you. (I know this sounds silly, but when you find YOUR watch, you will have this feeling).
 
Raven117 said:
No worries, why don't you check out Cyberpunkd's and my suggestions and see if any of those look good to you? From there, we can help better identify your style and come up with better suggestions.

I would suggest thinking about watches more like jewelry/accessories. You have to try them on, see how it looks like on you. What looks good on on you, may look terrible on Cyber or me. You just have to see how it all fits into your style. And perhaps most importantly...when you first put it on, it sings to you. (I know this sounds silly, but when you find YOUR watch, you will have this feeling).
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I like the look of the nomos that someone posted a few posts ago the most I also liked the Tissot and Seiko you guys posted
 
Days like these... said:
I like the look of the nomos that someone posted a few posts ago the most I also liked the Tissot and Seiko you guys posted
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You may be able to pick up a used Nomos for just shy of 1000 (but you will need to do some hunting). That Tissot PRX and Seiko Diver do represent some great value. You probably do need to think about going to a watch store and try some of those on.

Any one of those 3 would do you well!
 
Cyberpunkd said:
I don't understand, it's an iconic diving watch. You buy watch as an investment or to wear it?
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The sub, in the 50'-60s when it was introduced, was an expensive piece of kit but there were few options. ALL watches were mechanical, there were no dive computers, and very few other companies had the robustness and water rating of Rolex. The OG models were 'just' a few hundred bucks, which would translate to around $2K today. But if you needed/wanted a relaible dive watch, thats what you had to fork over.

Today there are numerous $200-400 high quality dive watches that do everythign the Rolex can do. AND there are near infinite quartz dive models as well as computers. The NEED for a mechanical tool dive watch is largely gone. Rolex has also eschewed a lot of their tool watch qualities. The bezel is expensive ceramic, not easily replaced painted aluminum. The wrist band is much more complex and expensive. The polishing and bevels of the case are not as easily cleaned up. MUCH more use of precious metals. No question the sub of today SMOKES the sub of yesterday, but it does so at 100X the cost (10x accounting for inflation). It is jewelry, not a tool.

So yes, I bought my sub not as a tool (though I do take it swimming) because there are far better options when diving that don't equate to 10K on my wrist. Hell, I don't think I'd even wear a seamaster diving. I have a drawer of seikos for that stuff. The sport aesthetic allows me to greater durability with daily tasks and I just like the way it looks. Kind of like a fancy 1911 tuned by a master gunsmith. Sure, I COULD carry it daily, but it's 3-5k on my hip when a $400 glock does the same job and I'd cry a lot less if it were impounded by the police.

I didn't buy my watches as investments either but it's a nice little perk. I'd be happy with a 50%-90% fall in grey prices though, because then I could afford to collect more! I have lots of hobby collections that have little to no resale value, watches, at a certain level, are the gift that keeps on giving.
 
jason10mm said:
I have lots of hobby collections that have little to no resale value, watches, at a certain level, are the gift that keeps on giving.
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Outside a very narrow selection of watches (namely, stainless steel sport watches from PP, AP, Rolex, and a few others) that is simply not true. 99% of watches depreciate in value, those that do not are: A. Impossible to find at retail B. selling for multiples on the grey market C. might be part of a fad that will at some point go away (early 1990s you had dealers just throwing Daytonas at you, nobody wanted to buy them). Look at Omega, where older Speedmasters (so sport, stainless steam and from a company with great history in horology) trade at way below the prices of a new models, as mentioned you could easily get a Speedy for 2.5-3k. Same for Rolexes, you might not get that DD by walking into a boutique, but 3-6 months and it's a done deal (except some super sought-after dials).
 
I had a buddy that was so into luxury watches. I just didn't understand paying that kind of money but I did come across a video of how to make your own watch and that led me down a rabbit hole of watch building. I do like to build things and when I saw you could buy Seiko movements, select from different dials, hands ,cases, and bezels i got hooked. tools were cheap and i could fit all the tools in parts in a shoebox.

these are some of my builds here. Reddit seikomods or Casiomods if you're interested. I can tell you something you personally built that's one of a kind is so much more satisfying than buying a watch off the shelf. I'll likely do this as a side hustle because it's fun for me, not so much to make money. while wearing my customs, I've had 3 people ask about my watch and ordered me to make them customs to their style and colors. that digital watch in the middle is my current favorite and is a cheap $20 casio AE1200. I replaced the plastic case and strap with a heavy black brass case that I patina'd to reveal the brass and paired with a leather strap that I oil stained. it's gorgeous in person and I wouldn't part with it for $200 even though all parts cost about $60.

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I reserved a Nomos Club Campus Starlight (36mm) from an authorized dealer here. It was a spur of the moment purchase because the supply is limited and I didn't want anyone beating me to the punch.
 
ForAcademicPurposes said:
Have you tried other models?
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Tried the Metro from Nomos, looked better on a picture than in real life.

Also tried a Meistersinger Perigraph 38mm (still really want one, someday) and some used Grand Seiko's.

I've been gathering knowledge and interest for 2 years. I wanted something simple and, relatively speaking, unknown.

This checked all boxes.
 
Yerd said:
This is my tiny collection.

The Luminox caught my eye when I noticed they have the white face with green band and a blue face with a blue band. I thought it would look great with white face/blue band. I still haven't bought a blue band for it. I bought a bunch of extra straps for these 3 watches from amazon. I want to get the metal band for the Luminox, but that single watch with the metal band was the first "fancy" watch I ever bought, back in the 90s I think, and it plays hell with my arm hairs, so I've been afraid of any watches with metal bands ever since.

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I don't give a rats ass about watches, but that Luminox has caught my attention.
 
Paasei said:
Tried the Metro from Nomos, looked better on a picture than in real life.

Also tried a Meistersinger Perigraph 38mm (still really want one, someday) and some used Grand Seiko's.

I've been gathering knowledge and interest for 2 years. I wanted something simple and, relatively speaking, unknown.

This checked all boxes.
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The Metro put Nomos on the map for me. I don't know why I don't have one.

I suggest trying the Ahoi Neomatik with the sport bracelet because it is *chefs kiss*

If I had to get another Nomos, then it would probably be this (but different color dial) or the Tetra.

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Ahoi neomatik 38 date Atlantic — NOMOS Glashütte

Sporty automatic watch from NOMOS Glashütte, Atlantic blue, unisex, in-house movement, date, 20 atm, screw-down crown, 38.5 mm, with glass back 9.8 mm high.
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I hsve a Meistersinger Neo 36mm. it's a very fun piece to own.
 
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I am a sucker for a nice green dial.

I have two in particular that I wear regularly. The daydate 40 rosegold / olive and the Tissot PRX in stainless steel / green

as you can see both are pretty well used and loved :)
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ForAcademicPurposes said:
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I don't know what to think about that tiger….. it kinda feels unRolex, but looks kinda cool. Need to see a better pic.

As for the sprite, I'm sure folks with love it.

Don't get me wrong, I like Rolex. But I'm not the biggest fanboy.
 
Nocty said:
I am a sucker for a nice green dial.

I have two in particular that I wear regularly. The daydate 40 rosegold / olive and the Tissot PRX in stainless steel / green

as you can see both are pretty well used and loved :)
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Those look great, how long have you had the Rolex?
 
ResilientBanana said:
I don't give a rats ass about watches, but that Luminox has caught my attention.
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It's a huge watch. Fat and wide. I'm still trying to find a nice band to match it. They used to sell a blue face/blue band and I intended to get the blue band on the white face, but never did.

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Celcius said:
Those look great, how long have you had the Rolex?
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~5 years ish. I originally bought it as an investment but loved it so much I sold most of my collection to justify it and recoup some funds 🤣 and now wear this quite a lot.

My next one will hopefully be a PP if fuds permit sometime soon but not decided on model
 
Need some strap suggestions for the Hamilton Pilot Day Date. Ref: H64615135

Went to the Breitling dealer. The new Top Time B31 is very nice and maybe the best in that price segment.
 
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Celcius said:
How much was the blue Omega/Swatch? Looks awesome!
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