Oh god that review caused one of the biggest shitstorm's I've ever seen....
Zelda fans were mad.
Fuck, I forgot how bad it was. No wonder he seems to hate most of the internet and message boards in particular, I don't blame him.
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Exactly six years ago*, GameSpot reviewed The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess.
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Fuck, I forgot how bad it was. No wonder he seems to hate most of the internet and message boards in particular, I don't blame him.
DidntKnowJack
Member
And six years later, it's clear that Jeff was right on the money.
Hey now, I kick up a stink about everything Persona related!
ViewtifulJC
Banned
11 point scale
I agree with this, but I actually quite like Jeff's opinions about games and gaming in general usually, and even if I don't like them, I always find them interesting.
I thought it was one of the best games I ever played. Even with the disguting NPC designs and the horrible fishing village segment. The dungeons were still mindblowing, the wolf was cool, some of the best music, and a really great ending.
I still haven't managed to play Skyward Sword.
I still haven't managed to play Skyward Sword.
MrChocolate
Member
Too high.
Sveitadurgur
Member
Bingo, I did enjoy playing it and it is a well made solid game, but as a sucessor to games such as ALttP, OoT, MM and Wind Waker it pales in comparison to all of them. It felt like they were just executing on a formula, probably after all the asinine rage people had over Majora's Mask and Wind Waker being "too different" so they made just another 3d Zelda game with the basic stuff and precious little that gave it any flair or specific identity.
love the game. i agree with his score - in that it's basically what i'd give the game - but not his specific complaints.
reaction is still hilarious. my favourite is the gamefaqs thread just titled: "fuck you girthmann". i wonder if nintendo will create that much fervour in anticipation of a single game again. probably not.
reaction is still hilarious. my favourite is the gamefaqs thread just titled: "fuck you girthmann". i wonder if nintendo will create that much fervour in anticipation of a single game again. probably not.
hydrophilic attack
Member
This is one of the reasons that game journalism is stuck in Doritosland.
Why give up free stuff and advertising money in order to keep game press apart from game marketing when no one will thank you for it, but in fact will probably hate, flame and threaten you for it?
Why give up free stuff and advertising money in order to keep game press apart from game marketing when no one will thank you for it, but in fact will probably hate, flame and threaten you for it?
... Uncharted 3?
People need 9's to justify their purchase, especially when it comes to a new console launch.
Beelzeboss
Member
Twilight Princess is not an 8.8 game.
It's at least an 8.9
It's at least an 8.9
TheGreatDivide
Banned
How can a game vastly superior to Wind Waker pale in comparison to it? I don't understand.
Syphon Filter
Member
lol not even close.
To Far Away Times
Member
This was even bigger than the Uncharted 3 review thread. The meltdowns were unprecedented and have never been matched since.
Disagree all you want about the score (I think attaching a number to a review helps to devalue the text portion, but I digress) but he's entitled to his opinion about the game and I think he was more or less spot on.
Disagree all you want about the score (I think attaching a number to a review helps to devalue the text portion, but I digress) but he's entitled to his opinion about the game and I think he was more or less spot on.
Wasn't U3 highly acclaimed? What happened?
SatelliteOfLove
Member
TheGreatDivide
Banned
Ocarina: 10 [via being ground breaking]
Majora's Mask: 6
Wind Waker: 6
Twilight Princess: 9
Skyward Sword: 3
Majora's Mask: 6
Wind Waker: 6
Twilight Princess: 9
Skyward Sword: 3
I don't know, out of all the Zelda games, it definitely is one of them.
Freedom = $1.05
Banned
In retrospect, he gave it too good a score. That game was a 3/5 at best.
I humbly disagree, sir.
funkystudent
Member
The internet got in a bit of a tiff over the UC3 review but this was a bit diffrent.
No one sent death threats to the Eurogamer reviewers home as far as I can remember.
And in hindsight Jeff probably over scored TP but the 8.8 reaction just shows how dumb the 100 point review scale is.
Syphon Filter
Member
it was a disappointment. very easy and the combat was off like wind waker. didn't feel as satisfying as oot.
TheGreatDivide
Banned
You're complaining about awful design decisions while praising WIND WAKER AND ZELDA 2?!
Supermanisdead
Member
Twilight Princess was a 10.10 game
I loved Twilight Princess, but the reactions to the reviews were really stupid, thankfully it didn't really happen with Skyward Sword...
Eurogamer gave it an 8 and some people got really mad before even playing the game. Almost always happen when a game in an highly acclaimed exclusive franchise gets an "average" score.
Eurogamer gave it an 8 and some people got really mad before even playing the game. Almost always happen when a game in an highly acclaimed exclusive franchise gets an "average" score.
I don't think that's possible, since the number scale only goes up to 10 even.
Lion Heart
Banned
I don't know, maybe I'm old now but gaming forums and communities don't have that epic feel they once had. I know thats a bad way to put it but nothing feels special anymore to warrant that type of response. Anything can get a 7.5 these days, and there is so many outlets that they just get lost in the pile.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Not on my 11 point scale, bro
Iacobellis
Junior Member
I miss GameFAQs.
grimshawish
Banned
You lack a soul.
lol what am I reading?
Wind Waker is my favorite game of all time but Twilight Princess dumps on WW design-wise.
At first I was mad! (at gamespot and Jeff) but then I realised I was just mad at Nintendo... for making a great, albeit not amazing Zelda game.)
If you look back on it objectively... 8.8 was a completely reasonable review score for that game. As someone said, it rounds up to a 9. Nobody is going to scoff at a 9.
Some people can be unreasonable about things they feel passionate about. Some people can also just be unreasonable.
The only person reasonable here was Jeff doing a good unbiased job.
Also: this is a strange topic to bring up 6 years later.
If you look back on it objectively... 8.8 was a completely reasonable review score for that game. As someone said, it rounds up to a 9. Nobody is going to scoff at a 9.
Some people can be unreasonable about things they feel passionate about. Some people can also just be unreasonable.
The only person reasonable here was Jeff doing a good unbiased job.
Also: this is a strange topic to bring up 6 years later.
ARE YOU A WOLF IN ZELDA 2 OR WIND WAKER? NO. AND ZELDA WAS FUCKING BAD ASS IN WIND WAKER.
Mama Robotnik
Member
Yeah, the Uncharted situation was mainly here to be fair, and not really as widespread as the TP reaction.
The only fanatical reactions that I can recall as being similar were during the Geohot situation (when Gaffers were unashamedly calling for George Hotz to be sexually assaulted for his crimes against Sony), and the Bayonetta 2 Nintendo resurrection, in which people on Twitter were making death threats, and in one ugly case, advocating the nuclear genocide of Japan. These were utterly venomous, but no where as widespread as the Zelda TP explosion.