TrumanBurbank
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Guess I sounded like too much of a hater.
Not a disaster but not great.
Or is saying that also blasphemy?
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Guess I sounded like too much of a hater.
Not a disaster but not great.
Or is saying that also blasphemy?
Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs 2 could do well, and Neill Blomkamp's Elysium. Plus they have that One Direction film which could make Sony a lot of profit - I guess it won't have a large budget (-10 million) and could make up to a 80/100million?
Sony also have the Resident Evil franchise and seem to be churning out sequels for it.
Manmademan
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not sure what your distinction is. You mentioned men in black, but sony doesn't own that IP any more than they own spider man. That franchise was created by Malibu, and currently owned by Marvel (who bought malibu back in the 90s.) Sony owns the film rights. The smurfs probably fall under the same category.
Film rights are really all that matters- I can't see the ability to create videogames and comic books as really being relevant. No one else can make Spiderman or MIB films as long as sony continues to make them. Sony owns all rights to related characters as well, and can make all the spin offs they want. Fox has the same deal.
As for the bond films, if Sony is contractually obligated to fund 1/4 of the next two films, that makes them part owner of these films. It's their franchise for the forseeable future, barring something catastrophic that tanks MGM or Sony in the meantime.
Again Resident Evil is owned by Capcom not by Sony. The Resident Evil films are produced by a German company called Constantin Films who I believe also either self of co finance with Sony who distribute worldwide.
The Resident Evil films are solid performers. Not 'AAA' franchise for the studio.
DAMN!
I wasn't expecting that, like everyone I assumed that figure would be for the entire run. How does it compared with bigger blockbusters?
I'll concede your point about Men In Black as I forgot it started life as a comic (I had heard that Sony 'bought' this IP lock, stock and barrel) and I can't argue otherwise.
First off the difference is huge. Sony does not own the Smurfs IP. It does however own everything else. Sony essentially controls the IP and reaps all the benefits from the tie in merchandise etc, etc. For all intents and purposes it's studio controlled if not studio owned.
When it comes to Bond Sony ONLY benefit from the theatrical revenue. Whatever else is generated from the film (Bond has also had tons of tie in merch and spin offs) belongs to MGM. MGM and the Brocollis are the ultimate owners of the IP. Not Sony.
When it comes to Spider Man the case is even more clear cut. Sony (to get themselves into a profit one year) sold their share of the theatrical licensing rights back to Marvel so now Sony only get the cash that Spider Man theatrically and in the ancillary markets such as home video etc.
All the cash from the various Spider Man film tie in toys etc all goes to Marvel/Disney in future. Sony gets nothing.
Compare those situations with Warners and Batman. WB makes all the money that the Batman IP generates. All the merchandise money. All the licensing money. It all goes to the studio because it's studio owned.
The distinction is clear.
It is NOT Sony's franchise for the foreseeable future. They distribute ww. MGM are the producers, the majority financier and through the Brocollis serve as the main creative force.
Sony have the distribution and co-financing rights to next two Bond films. After that they either re-negotiate the deal of MGM might be sold to another studio like WB or FOX. Anything can happen once the deal is up.
This is clearly NOT a studio owned IP thus there wouldn't be such uncertainty about it's future.
Boom goes the dynamite.
http://variety.com/2013/film/box-of...ns-dominates-domestic-with-27-mil-1200573849/
Barack Lesnar
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This is literally the first time I've heard of 2 Guns and I follow movies pretty closely. Where did this come from, and Denzel's in it too.
In a good or bad way?
Good. Film is almost at 300M now.
outunderthestars
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I can't get anyone to go see Pacific Rim in 3d imax with me. Is it worth catching in the format and paying the extra $8?
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I hate 3D in general, but it is widely acknowledged that Imax 3D is the absolute best way to see Pacific Rim. It is amazing in that format.
"‘Smurfs 2′ Tops Global Box Office, While ’2 Guns’ Dominates Domestic. Sony's sequel opens at #1 worldwide, but only #3 domestically" article title is now "‘Pacific Rim’ Beat ‘Smurfs 2′ in Overseas Upset"
Oh yeaaah, nice. Pacific Rim deserves all the box office it can get
And the China opening is actually $45 million, it's time to point fingers. Record-breaking opening in China.
My guess would be that a huge chunk of the population doesn't have access to movie theaters or any money to go to said theaters.
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KillerMan91
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Well chinese market is expanding something like 30% every year. It's only matter of time before it overtakes US.
Like many others here I'm sure, I've been a huge Wolvie fanboy since I was a little kid, at least 25-30 years, if not more. I was in my seat on day one for every Xmen and Wolverine movie ever made.
I have very little desire to go see this one. X3 and Origins really took away all of my interest. I imagine it's the same for a lot of people.
Mr.Wreckless
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This exactly. Origins was so bad it killed any interest i had in future Wolverine movies. That was one of the few movies i left feeling embarrassed for dragging someone to see it with me.
Hasn't he only got two movies that made more than $200 million? He doesn't seem that impressive when it comes to hits. Denzel Washington always seem to be a bit of a safe choice. If I'm gonna buy a movie with him in it, I know it is going to be decent, not bad, not great, but decent.
I was just about to post this. Imagine World War Z's numbers without Bradd Pitt. haha.
People parroting numbers without knowing them ..
Yeah being a zombie movie or based on a super popular books had nothing to do with it.
Ignoring the article that CREMSteve posted about it doing 45 million its opening weekend in China? It's not that many posts above this one, either.
BattleMonkey
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Zombies movies have never done big numbers. And a book only geeks know? We've gone over many times how low the geek crowd money draw is.
It didn't. Zombie movies are not popular, they don't do blockbuster numbers, not even close.
And the book might have been well known among online nerd fandom, but it had nowhere near the mainstream popularity of twilight or even hunger games.
He's been a big draw overseas for quite some time; even domestic duds like Seven Years in Tibet were saved by how well they did internationally.
It's true that World War Z is the biggest film of his career as a leading man, but he's definitely a big name where it matters these days.
I wasnt clear probably but I meant that "45-60M TOTAL" was ignorant.
Pacific Rim doing 40M+ just in it's opening take was known for a few days now, it's just a few people reading one article and wrongly assuming 45-60M TOTAL!!!
Christopher
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Bombs are a dropping wow
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You misunderstood, he was saying people like Ghaleon were suggesting they knew PR's China numbers before they even came out.
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