Black Mamba
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Lakers playing a zone for the 1st time I can ever remember.
Yeah, they have no idea how to do so.
Yeah, they have no idea how to do so.
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ItWasMeantToBe19
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WolstatSun said:
I like Valanciunas a lot, but he's not making the Raptors contenders for the playoffs in the next two years so that would be a pretty bad move. Then again, just some random reporter, but their coach seems pretty focused on getting to the playoffs next year as well. Their talent level isn't good enough for it though.
I kind of agree with this.
Although I didnt watch enough college basketball this year to really comment on guys like Perry Jones, Sullinger, Tyler Zeller, or Henson. Guys that are apparently expected to go near our Minny pick.....I just hope we dont fuck up this draft because our team healthy wont pick high like this again.
MorisUkunRasik
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Cats trying is straight trash. All that arrangement will do is make teams like Nola and Sac be more strategetic with their tanking and it would screw legit shit teams by making it less likely to get the best players. I have no problem with teams tanking as is, cause the teams that are truly aren't going anywhere.
The only kind of tanking that needs to be fixed is The Spurs tanking for Duncan type tanks.
hmmm, what are your thoughts on who some of those franchise guys later in the first round are?
Frankly ive only really payed attention to the guy projected to go in the first 13 picks and some of them only very minimally.
ryutaro's mama
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SHAMEBALL HIGHLIGHT OF THE FOREVER
Raptors could get really lucky if a guy like Barnes slips to #7/8.
Forceatowulf
G***n S**n*bi
dat white on white oop
MorisUkunRasik
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What happened, I'm in class =l
ReturnOfTheRAT
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Kings announcers love McRoberts.
Hell yeah, one of my fav Disney soundtracks. The end of Son of a Man with Tarzan going batshit insane on the vines sent chills down my spine as a kid, and still do!
ryutaro's mama
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Blake over the back no look alley oop to a diving McBobs for a Shaq in Blue Chips-esque dunk.
Black Mamba
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Would be hard to be strategic there.
And I'm fine with "screwing" the worst of the worst. The draft is supposed to be a good chance to help bad teams, but no one says it has to help the worst teams. Let shitty run teams rot.
Red Blaster
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I meant only a franchise guy or two in the whole first round (Davis and maybe one of those other Top 5 guys like Beal or someone).
Idiots (Chad Ford) overhyped the draft because they thought guys like Drummond and Perry Jones would pan out and because they didn't they've been trashing the entire class since the tournament. I definitely think it'll be way better than the last two years overall.
FantasticMrFoxdie
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Oh god. Just tuned in and theres a Garth Brooks song montage dedicated to Kings Fans?
MorisUkunRasik
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Murphy is The Lakers leading scorer.
Troy Murphy.
Troy Murphy.
Such a dumb statement.
Gotcha.
I think Davis could definitely be dominant. I also like Beal.
Unlike a lot of others I dont hate Barnes. I dont think he'll be an allstar but in the right system I think he can be a solid scorer and with the right coach a competent defender.
I remember when many Hornets fans were pissed they didnt get Murphy in the Collison for Ariza trade.
Not that I actually want Ariza anymore, but at least he still has some worth.
ryutaro's mama
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But y u h8n doe?
Black Mamba
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Why? Why should the worst team in the league have the best odds for the 1st pick? Let it be the 4th worst team. A team that's bad but not fucking trash.
rewarding total inadequacy is why teams are this bad.
Knux-Future
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At the very least this draft will produce a bunch of solid starters and number 2's.
Even dudes like Barnes will be solid starters/contributors.
Even dudes like Barnes will be solid starters/contributors.
That was such a Lakers-fan statement to make.
Again, a dumb statement.
Why 4th? why randomly choose 4th? lets use other dumb metrics.
Team with the worst crowd attendance! no no, team with the best cheer leaders!
The point of a draft based on your record is to make sure talent goes to where its needed the most to try and make sure every team in the league has a chance of being relevant. The lotto is designed to try and discourage shameless tanking.
If you want to be picky, it's the second part of that, that is broken, not the first.
The worst team in the league should get the most talent.
Black Mamba
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How do you stop tanking without also stopping the reward for the worst of the worst?
4th is arbitrary, but it feels like a good position to start from. And the only metric i used was wins...
Re: bold - yes, but the problem is teams TANK which means this isn't what actually happens. And again, the worst records would still have a shot at a top 3 pick. Just a lesser shot.
Knux-Future
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You can't stop tanking....without it being unfair to legit shitty teams...like the Bobcats.
Hell this league has too many shit teams as it is. The market on star level talent is small and a team won't be shit until they get a star.
If anything the Lottery system is broken in a sense that the worst team often gets shafted.
I don't remember the last worst team that got the best pick. The Cavs got Kyrie with the Clippers pick.
MorisUkunRasik
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The Cats weren't tanking, I mean they lost 13 more games than the next worst team, they suck. Wiz went on a 6 game winning streak.
Cavs legit suck, Nola didnt tank they have a bunch of d leaguers and Gordan was injured most of the year. Sac is a party platter of potential but no current talent outside of DMC. Nets are ass and are losing DWill, so will suck harder next year, raps are ass.
I mean, god, why reward Raps and not Bobcats, you can't cite poor management, they've both been poorly managed and it could be argued that the cats are better managed, same goes for the nets.
So basically, fuck teams that have no talent, yall should never get the best player?
Awesome.
Then you'll have retarded tanking strats based on people trying to make sure they have the highest lotto win % for the 4th pick instead of the first. It won't prevent teams from throwing games. Lots of games.
It doesn't solve a thing and defeats the purpose of a draft entirely.
Black Mamba
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Well, the lotto isn't designed for the worst team to get the #1 pick. And I think that's good. It's designed to have the best individual shot to get it and a high probability of top 3.
The draft is supposed to give the best talent to the bad teams, but the notion that it should be in reverse order misses the beat. The Bobcats are an outlier, but generally speaking the difference in the say bottom 6 teams isn't that much. Why design a system that would include more tanking?
Which is why either proposal I gave would mostly disincenticize tanking but still provide the bottom 6 with good odds to improve.
Do you read? I said to affect the ODDS of getting the 1st pick. Not the 1st pick.
Do you know how fucking hard that would be. Stop and think for once.
MorisUkunRasik
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That would suck so so so so much.
Vire
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ryutaro's mama
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Black Mamba
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The Bobcats would still be guaranteed a top 4 pick...in no way am I saying for them to get the 14th.
The Cats wouldn't have let Diaw go if they weren't tanking. Cavs would have won more games and would Nola without a tank. They sat Kaman for no reason as well as others. Nets sat DWILL.
Why reward putting out the worst possible product? I'm not saying to hurt them, but give more incentive to win. And again, Bobcats are an outlier. To design a system around an outlier is near-sighted.
No way, lol. He hops to have a thousand by Saturday. It might really be D Rose then. Adidas probably pushed him to it.
I did, i'm replying to someone who obviously isn't thinking about what they're posting, but they had a thought, so put it on the internet for all to see.
This is why i don't bother replying to a lot of your shit. You don't ever want to discuss what you post, your idea is dumb, it's flawed, goes against the nature of what a draft is and the whole purpose of a draft.
Everyones thinking it, i'm one of the few pointing it out.
But i'm done with it.
Go be free.
MorisUkunRasik
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There's no future in Diaw, DWill played in tons of losses and is gone next year. Nola seems like the only team with a decent roster who are bottom of the barrel.
Maybe do Worst team gets best odds of #1 and give 2-6 an additional first round pick thats untradeable.
I would say Nola is more of an outlier than The Cats.
Black Mamba
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All you've said "it's dumb" and that's it.
If you're the 3rd worst team, losing barely helps you and winning helps a lot. If you're 5th worst, losing can help but you jeopardize dropping to the 3rd spot. 4th worst can't possibly know whether to win or to lose.
it is not easy in an 82 game season to sit on a "sweet spot." You clearly aren't thinking it through. You might end up with a game or 2 in the final week, but not an entire 2 weeks stretch or more of it.
Point is they could have won more games.
Nola isn't much of an outlier. Every year some team get decimated by injuries.
An additional 1st rounder after the 1st round?
CoffeeJanitor
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Hmm
Some NBA player got RT'd on my homepage, endorsing the account. That tweet is gone now, though. Probably isn''t him
But we also could've played Varejao shortly after the All-Star break.
Black Mamba
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The schedule for the Lakers first-round playoff series against the Denver Nuggets has been spread out from Sunday to Sunday next week
Game 1: Sunday at Staples Center, 12:30 p.m. (all times Pacific), ABC
Game 2: Tuesday at Staples Center, 7:30 p.m., TNT
Game 3: Friday at Pepsi Center, 7:30 p.m., ESPN
Game 4: May 6 at Pepsi Center, 6:30 p.m., TNT
Game 5 (if necessary): May 8 at Staples Center, TBD, TBD
Game 6 (if necessary): May 10 at Pepsi Center, TBD, TBD
Game 7 (if necessary): May 12 at Staples Center, TBD, TNT
The schedule for the Lakers first-round playoff series against the Denver Nuggets has been spread out from Sunday to Sunday next week
Game 1: Sunday at Staples Center, 12:30 p.m. (all times Pacific), ABC
Game 2: Tuesday at Staples Center, 7:30 p.m., TNT
Game 3: Friday at Pepsi Center, 7:30 p.m., ESPN
Game 4: May 6 at Pepsi Center, 6:30 p.m., TNT
Game 5 (if necessary): May 8 at Staples Center, TBD, TBD
Game 6 (if necessary): May 10 at Pepsi Center, TBD, TBD
Game 7 (if necessary): May 12 at Staples Center, TBD, TNT
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