This is the world we live in now. I just booked some flights: base cost which was frankly appalling, choosing a seat costs money, adding luggage costs a fortune, they want to charge you for getting on the plane early, they want to sell you insurance incase their flights don't depart on time....then the extras...do you want a car at the destination? a hotel? do you need holiday insurance? Then when everyhting is ready its taxed and surcharges are added because i booked something myself. Everything is itemized to oblivion...it's tiring and perhaps I'm getting old but easyjet can fuck off and so can gaming companies.
$30 plastic stands sold separately. $70 and $80 games. Charging for upgrades and cloud saves. Console gaming has become a money sink
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rofif
Can’t Git Gud
You don't play on a madcatz controller either.
Peripherals must be good. Mouse don't need to be 150 but no1 10$ either. Anyway - the point is that everything is pricey on pc
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
of course. What peasant pcmr plays on a shitty wired mouse.Good grief man. $1000 gpu is mid? $150 mouse?
Razer viper v2 pro here. Had v1 before.
Both scrolls shit the bed. Now looking for something new.
1000$ gpu is a 4080 or 5080. Compared to 5090, 5080 is mid.
besides, the silicon also says so. Nvidia is giving us MID, no high end and then ultra high end for suckers (5090).
XX80 USED to be high end. not this gen. Not last gen.
It's not hate. It's a fact.
bighugeguns
Member
Line must go up.
HeisenbergFX4
Member
I have been playing guitars for over 40 years and agree they can be a very cheap hobby and tuned right a $100 guitar can sound almost as good as a $3000 guitar
Also as someone who has played for so long I can easily tell the difference in said guitars but that's not to say a cheaper guitar isn't worth buying, it 100% is
Oh and fools like myself have way more money tied up in that hobby then gaming so it can become ultra expensive
You can use cheaper peripheral and be happy with them
I LOVE my 8Bitdo controllers
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Besides. I don't see what's so crazy about 150$ mouse. You guys pay more for keyboards. Not that any of it makes any difference in a grand scheme of things.
I use 8bitdo keyboard and had more expensive ones before. It's amazing. 8bitdo makes the best stuff. Nothing cheap or bad about it.
That's why I can't settle with a mouse. Razer and logitech fucking sucks ass. The encoders they use for scrolls are guaranteed to break.
I will get 8bitdo mouse if it comes with any other color than xbox green.
Anyway - Nobody spends 3k$ on pc and then plays on a 10$ peripherals.
Let's respect ourselves here. Interacting with your expensive pc must bring you joy. You are touching that keyboard and mouse.
HeisenbergFX4
Member
I duont know I have been using one of the Razer DeathAdder mice and one of their Huntsman keyboards for a quite a while now and pretty happy with them and have not had any issue with its scroll
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
old ones were good.
Now logitech and razer are using kalih and ttc encoders and they are all shit except gold ones supposedly. There is not much research on this.
v3 pro, v2 pro, deathadder v3 pro, logitech dex and gpx2... all have same scroll issues. it starts skipping up and down however it wants.
I can clean it and it's fine for a week. Then problem happens again. It's a shit design.
very happy with v2 pro otherwise....
I had huntsman mini keyboard for few years. Loved that keyboard but it was shit at first. Needed new firmware because it was crashing start menu lol.
Then, for years I had stuck/sticky software keys issue. Razer never resolved it. It's to do with their optical keyboard switches.
Puscifer
Member
Pulsar & Wooting >>>>> Razer and Logitech
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
I bet pulsar is supplying the same encoders though... They are all trying to copy viper v3.
Wooting makes keyboards and I am happy with 8bitdo in this regard.
Generally, the peripherals industry sucks ass nowadays. Where are all the cool stuff we had 15 years ago... These companies are a shadow of themselves. Only 8bitdo is fun
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Puscifer
Member
Pulsar makes their own
LordCBH
Member
Sure. I wouldn’t play on a $10 mouse or a madcatz controller either, but exactly nothing is stopping people from doing so if that’s what they have to do.
LordCBH
Member
I just got my 8bitdo ultimate 2 controller in and I freaking love that thing.
Killer8
Member
Digital distribution is not free, it simply changes the type of costs which the manufacturer incurs. The retailer's cut becomes the data server provider's cut. Logistics costs become bandwidth costs. Newer games have to subsidize the continued availability of older games which no longer sell, and even games no longer available to purchase need to be kept on the server in perpetuity for owners to download again. There are also infrastructure costs related to maintaining the digital store over time.
Miyazaki’s Slave
Gold Member
This is a Q1 2026 bonus reactions TikTok video and its from my uncle...he works at nintendo and this is what they all got for a fantastic year of sales in 2025.
Everyone one at nintendo...even the folks that were on the Treehouse live videos this week.
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Topher
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R6Rider
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MarV0
Member
My razer mouse wheel also broke, never looked at razer products again.
PeteBull
Member
Meanwhile majority of our GAF bros right now while preording switch2 bundless:
This is a Q1 2026 bonus reactions TikTok video and its from my uncle...he works at nintendo and this is what they all got for a fantastic year of sales in 2025.
Everyone one at nintendo...even the folks that were on the Treehouse live videos this week.
Miyazaki’s Slave
Gold Member
Hopefully the pre-order "Stuff" gets sorted here in the US this week. Personally, I don't want 90 days of "how bad will be to get a S2 bundle in the us: Poll below" threads.Meanwhile majority of our GAF bros right now while preording switch2 bundless:
I also think that MKW comes with 6 to 12 months of Nintendo Switch online along with the game purchase, but there hasn't been any official mention of that so the "zomg nintendo game prices
" gremlin threads are appearing like the aftermath of Gizmo at a late night bukkake party.Hardware wise: Check out some of these mice from Keychron: nothing special but they have great polling, lots of connectivity options, and they even feel good in hill giant hands (just don't get the mini).
I've used their keyboads for a while as well (currently using one for one my gaming rigs, but not my office work), their high end ones are nice with a great key feel and they have a metric truck load of switch, dampner, and cap options.
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Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Oh come on, they are nowhere near similar. It is comparatively free for all intents and purposes. Inventory management is such a non issue (this alone was a huge issue in the N64 vs PSOne war) and retailer’s cut is a large percentage of your game price and you have little control over store visibility and discoverability vs what you have on your store.
They are charging for convenience despite essentially cutting out the middle man… they even went on record when they had digital games costing more than people could find in retail…
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Sony and Nintendo. Like I said in the OP.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
nobody is charging you for updates on ps5.
But for saves? only cloud saves...
ACtually surprising steam got free cloud saves. That 30% is going somewhere good
DoubleClutch
Banned
No such thing as a free lunch. For PC it’s “free” because Valve makes a pretty penny every time you buy a game. GOG/Epic do it to compete….
If cloud storage is truly “free” it’s probably because they’re making money on your data.
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Topher
Identifies as young
Selling data isn't related to cloud saves at all. Valve could sell data and still not provide cloud save access.
Xbox 360 slim
Member
Looking forward to some of these guys preordering 1000 dollar PS6's. WIth 90 dollar physical copies (disc drive not included).
DoubleClutch
Banned
No I mean like Dropbox, OneDrive, etc. if someone is giving you free storage it’s with a greater purpose in mind and not from the kindness of their heart.
Valve could, but they won’t because it’s lucrative to keep you locked in. GOG recently cut the size of cloud saves, so it’s not like there aren’t limits.
Radical_3d
Member
Xbox 360 slim
Member
I've spent 340 dollars on steam over 6 years and own over 150 games. Still using the same keyboard I bought in 2020.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
so? I have 600 games on steam and I am not maniac enough to know how much I spent on them.
And I absolutely 1000% do not believe you. You perfectly managed to keep track of your spendings on steam store for 6 years?
I also used my previous keyboard for 4-5 years.
Nobody is saying these things break. Keyboards are rather sturdy. Mice nowadays are shit. Different story.
Xbox 360 slim
Member
You can check how much you've spent in steam. I agree with you on mice. Had a Gpro superlight give me the scroll wheel issue.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
you can't really though because most of the keys I get are from 3rd party websites...
Unfortunately that’s not the case on PlayStation and Nintendo
marjo
Member
Heck you even look at Legos…this thing even more expensive than Switch 2.
What about Nintendo Lego?
Danjin44
The nicest person on this forum
Lego in general is expensive hobby and even more so than video games.
Chuck Berry
Gold Member
Nice, about time we had another Switch 2 thread.
Miyazaki’s Slave
Gold Member
Of course it is related. It is tied to your Steam profile which is tied to (in many users cases) multiple devices where that user is logged in.
Then, (based on the permissions granted by users on those platforms), it is tied to your location permission data, along with contacts and text/message data across devices, hell even your photos and videos, all collected to build your consumer profile.
The reason valve provides free cloud saving capability, patch/updates, and community tools is to keep you in their ecosystem.
Topher
Identifies as young
I said game saves are unrelated to Valve selling your personal data (if they even do that). I agree with you. They provide these perks to keep folks as customers. That's how it should work.
Muddy
Member
ByWatterson
Member
The only people who think gaming is prohibitively expensive are zeitgeistophiles who can't wait six to twelve months for sales.
awwr999999
Member
The best selling console of all time (PS2) has 2 different OEM stands available in a massive range of colors.
Proprietary physical components separate game consoles from PCs and allow users to invest in their systems.
VeganElduderino
Member
The games aren't $100. They are $80 or $70. And the fact is they remain substantially cheaper compared to minimum wage today. And thus for a young person much easier to obtain than back in the 80s and in other eras.
And you get much more for your $$$$ as well compared to that era. Pitfall was a 38 minute game according to Google. And maybe 3hrs for completionists.
I think the logic says you have it a lot better than you think you do.
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IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
The games aren't $100. They are $80 or $70. And the fact is they remain substantially cheaper compared to minimum wage today. And thus for a young person much easier to obtain than back in the 80s and in other eras.
And you get much more for your $$$$ as well compared to that era. Pitfall was a 38 minute game according to Google. And maybe 3hrs for completionists.
I think the logic says you have it a lot better than you think you do.
Nonsense.
The gaming market was a lot smaller in the 80s and 90s. This combined with the fact that publishers only received money via physical games sold at retail resulted in high prices for the time.
Look, if you think games should be 80, 90 or even a 100 then that's your opinion. If you want to bend over for Nintendo and beg them to take more of your money then so be it.
No one likes paying more money for something than they did a week ago.
It isn't an argument against these recent price hikes still being more affordable today compared to minimum wage.
You have it better than you think do.
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