Yes. And its share is declining every year. The topic was whether the lack of physical release impacted the apparently lacklustre performance of AW2. I stated it was likely not the main reason.
You say that as if it was a fact and not just your opinion. The sequel got lot of attention, that's why we expected it to do pretty well. It still might over time. And yes, it's a great game.
But we still don’t know the numbers for big/main AAA releases. Maybe the numbers of digital are inflated by sales and tons of small games that are not on disc.
Apparently it was as we have this thread.
Would be very poor if that's the case. Whilst the game uses cutting edge tech which would imply a high budget, it also uses a lot of tricks to get mileage out certain scenarios. For example you revisit a lot of environments over and over again. So perhaps the budget wasn't crazy high.
It's been a few years since that became the preferred term among industry professionals. Since the rise of GaaS and subscriptions, they don't really care about enjoyment or completion. They're happy for us to be a little bored or even miserable just so long as we feel compelled to buy season passes, complete the dailies, etc.
It has the pretties.
NeoGAF is not representative of the market in general.
Huh? Gaf didn't make this news up.
Tell that to Spider-Man 2 or Baldurs Gate 3, both games are far more woke then this.
I didn't realise going "Woke" meant being digital only on console and PC and having the game require an RTX Series GPU as minimum to run which also cut out a large portion of the market. Some of you here are more obsessed with "woke" than actually playing games.
An argument some make:
There's nothing good about the story, and certainly nothing good about the way it's told. It's Twin Peaks, only if it wasn't written by a genius filled with love and respect for his setting but by a 18 year old college student who's never stepped out of California.
When it's a sequel to something that was really successful and wasn't "woke" the damage is minimum, it's successful based on the originals reputation but not as successful as the original.
Because Sam lake knows what sort of games he wants to make, and what sort of stories he wants to tell. We bitch literally all the time about devs taking some popular media friendly ideology, or making games by committee designed by sales and marketing guys chasing just profits with no care for the craft. Yet here we are bitching about a studio that ignores all that bullshit and makes their vision and makes well received games efficiently and with modest budgets and are happy not setting sales and profit statistics on fire.
The insomniac thread gives me reservations about whether the company is losing focus, but I really don't consider Spiderman 2 to be woke. I'm near the end, and while it definitely had me rolling me eyes a couple times, it's a Spiderman game at heart IMO. If it doesn't have the legs of the first game I would guess its more due to being more of the same than the other stuff.
You were saying?
I don't hate Druckman, but fully admit that I was pissed when I read the leaks about Joel.
SM2 not woke? GTFO. They literally invade popular franchises to spread their message. I watched 10 mins of into the spiderverse and I got a 'support trans kids' message to swallow. Shit like that should not be in there in there.
I'm over 80% complete and did not see that message in SM2. I completely object to pushing that stuff on kids, and feel like it would have stood out if it was in there.
There's a very high concentration of homosexual couples and damn near everyone seems to be bi or pansexual, even ignoring they all have the hots for the main character. Nothing wrong with gay couples, but I can practically count more same sex couples than straight ones which is strange to say the least.
Forspoken sold at least 9 copies so bang goes your theory…..
Not woke, and will have legs. Game fuckin rules m8
As far as i know, TLOU2 has sold more in 3 years with a single sku than the original TLOU with 2 generation releases up to that point.
It's always the same people saying the game underperformed, yet they rarely discuss actual sales of the game in depth.
I loved AW1 back in 2010.
You can't want a game to flop if it's already sold well, people are just saying it hasn't sold as much as expected or much as people are saying and some just can't handle that.
