Snowdonhoffen
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And this is on console only, right? So it must already be at 1 million if we include PC.
So yeah, I guess it is almost certain it will sell as much as Control did, and if Epic ever releases this on Steam it would do even better.
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Alan Wake 2: Lack Of Sales Update Suggests It Didn’t Sell Too Well
And this is on console only, right? So it must already be at 1 million if we include PC.
So yeah, I guess it is almost certain it will sell as much as Control did, and if Epic ever releases this on Steam it would do even better.
Flutta
Banned
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Some of these responses let me know the majority of peoples opinions ain't shit.
God damn. I'm not surprised this awful easy paint by numbers gaming is so big.
God damn. I'm not surprised this awful easy paint by numbers gaming is so big.
ChoosableOne
ChoosableAll
Yeah, it was, for some people.Death Stranding was amazing what you talking about.
HoodWinked
Member
this game had the most anemic pre-release marketing strategy I've ever seen.
it felt like it was accidently announced then just a couple months later just showed up in digital stores.
it felt like it was accidently announced then just a couple months later just showed up in digital stores.
Starbuck2907
Member
I’m a big fan of this franchise. But, the first game did not sell well, particularly because it launched at the same time as a RockStar game. The game was great though. The second game, they make most of the promotional material focus more of the detective lady than the actual main character. It makes no sense.
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
I think one of my biggest complaints is that it all feel so mundane and they pretty much ignore stuff from the first game and American Nightmare. Sam Lake even admitted he forgot a lot of stuff about the first two games and uses Wikipedia to try to keep everything consistent.
A good example for me is how they mention alien intelligences and lovecraftian beings that supposedly dwell in the Dark Place in the first two games. There's no weird creatures or no appearances by any kind of lovecraftian type being and instead it's just a bunch of shadows. I guess you could count the Dark Presence that only shows up a couple times as one of these beings but all it shows up as is a warp in the air.
They had a chance to really do something interesting with the game and instead pretty much ignore the really interesting parts of the first two games.
A good example for me is how they mention alien intelligences and lovecraftian beings that supposedly dwell in the Dark Place in the first two games. There's no weird creatures or no appearances by any kind of lovecraftian type being and instead it's just a bunch of shadows. I guess you could count the Dark Presence that only shows up a couple times as one of these beings but all it shows up as is a warp in the air.
They had a chance to really do something interesting with the game and instead pretty much ignore the really interesting parts of the first two games.
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Basically this.
PixelatedBeast
Member
This is the karma they get for reselling Control 60fps next gen patch for the price of a new indie game. Not even a discount for previous owners was offered. I had to wait until it was on sale. Now I own Control digitally and physically. Yeah, this time I'll wait until this goes on a deep sale and releases with all of the DLC and patches.
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Alan Wake
Member
The first Alan Wake didn't do well either. It was beloved and adored by us fans, but it took a long time to break 1 million (after many discounts). Control wasn't a huge hit either. Remedy make quirky and unique games that don't appeal to the masses. So while I'm disappointed it apparently didn't do well, I'm not shocked. I hope the attention from TGA may help a bit and that we'll get some positive news soon. The game deserves to be played.
Vick
Member
No physical, EGS, lovely trend of replacing protagonists in their own games, extremely questionable gameplay..
It at least exposed an awful lot of frauds/hypocrites who entirely change their tastes/standards/videogame priorities based on hosting platforms.
Maybe Remedy should have put more of what made them famous in this industry in their latest game.
It at least exposed an awful lot of frauds/hypocrites who entirely change their tastes/standards/videogame priorities based on hosting platforms.
Let me take the emotional derailing bait on behalf of all PS bros.. "QTE" wouldn't help when simple PlayStation folk's woke walking simulators play like this.
Maybe Remedy should have put more of what made them famous in this industry in their latest game.
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Alan Wake
Member
I doubt the digital only release did much damage, tbh. But being an Epic exclusive most certainly did. On the other hand, without Epic no Alan Wake II.
Snowdonhoffen
Member
To be fair, 505 Games were the ones who took that decision not Remedy.
Same thing with AW2 physical edition, that was up to Epic not Remedy.
VolticArchangel
Member
There are a culmination of reasons why this didn't do well commercially.
- Sandwiched among high profile IP's, specifically Spider-Man 2, Super Mario Bros. Wonder, Assassin's Creed Mirage and Forza, to hit deadlines probably set by EPIC to release during the halloween timeframe thinking it would be a great PR move to maximize revenue. There's a reason why Alone in the Dark was postponed. They're not stupid.
- No physical console release or a pc steam release, means a death sentence, to a niche IP like this one.
- Very minimal PR. Understandable that EPIC's footing the bill. They only care about recouping the cost of devices, and the console initial sales will do that for them. They don't give a crap about later sales as it's already EGS exclusive on pc.
- The game is visually phenomenal, but their previous outing, Control, is not that far off. They could have tried and squeezed in a PS4/Xbox One port if they tried, but again that's more work and deadlines strike again. Also, Control was an absolute shitshow on lastgen consoles, at launch. Playable, post patches later. Outsourcing is a gamble until you know the team well enough.
- Relying on 3rd party publishers like EPIC, will always bring in bad PR and loss of freedom. Remedy are too big of an "indie", in 2023, to not self-publish their games. Believe in your work more than external investors, for once, maybe?
Those are some things on the top of my head when thinking why this game underperformed.
- Sandwiched among high profile IP's, specifically Spider-Man 2, Super Mario Bros. Wonder, Assassin's Creed Mirage and Forza, to hit deadlines probably set by EPIC to release during the halloween timeframe thinking it would be a great PR move to maximize revenue. There's a reason why Alone in the Dark was postponed. They're not stupid.
- No physical console release or a pc steam release, means a death sentence, to a niche IP like this one.
- Very minimal PR. Understandable that EPIC's footing the bill. They only care about recouping the cost of devices, and the console initial sales will do that for them. They don't give a crap about later sales as it's already EGS exclusive on pc.
- The game is visually phenomenal, but their previous outing, Control, is not that far off. They could have tried and squeezed in a PS4/Xbox One port if they tried, but again that's more work and deadlines strike again. Also, Control was an absolute shitshow on lastgen consoles, at launch. Playable, post patches later. Outsourcing is a gamble until you know the team well enough.
- Relying on 3rd party publishers like EPIC, will always bring in bad PR and loss of freedom. Remedy are too big of an "indie", in 2023, to not self-publish their games. Believe in your work more than external investors, for once, maybe?
Those are some things on the top of my head when thinking why this game underperformed.
This game has more walking and talking in its first two hours than the entire RE franchise.
Personally, RE games are my favourites these days together with From's, and I got bored of AW2 a few hours in.
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Unknown Soldier
Member
The detective lady is the main character. Alan Wake was just a minor supporting character.
SantaC
Member
Sam Lake has dementia? How do you forget the script for your own game. I mean it is not THAT old.
Snowdonhoffen
Member
Huh?
The character you literally play half of the game with is a minor supporting character?
Buggy Loop
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surprisedpikachu
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Don't think I've heard anything more disrespectful towards RE fans.
RE games actually got gameplay
PCFanboy64
Member
This battle is getting dumb but I'll join in. For some reason when I was playing Alan Wake 2 I couldn't put it down. Now I'm trying to play through the RE4R after never playing the original and I'm super bored.
People have opinions man
Crayon
Member
I thought it just meant you look at the character's back most the time.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
but there is not time in re4 for it to get boring... ok enough antagonizing. you do you
alstrike
Member
Epic fucking funded the game, of course it was gonna be exclusive to the EGS. I don't know why people are still going "they should have put it in Steam etc".
About the physical release I don't understand why they did it, to be honest I don't care because I'm all digital but some others rightly do so that one is on Remedy/Epic.
About the physical release I don't understand why they did it, to be honest I don't care because I'm all digital but some others rightly do so that one is on Remedy/Epic.
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demigod
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But I was told this game wouldn’t flop, lol.
genesisblock
Member
Economy sucks balls, I'd buy it next month just to support them but I have way too many games to play and so little time to complete them.
xrnzaaas
Member
Alan Wake Remastered was also published by Epic and it got a retail release on day1.
Also if it wasn't for Epic's funding Alan Wake 2 would never see the light of day, because it was a very risky project in terms of needed funding and (lack of) potential sales. You can hate them along with their exclusivity deals, but they still made the sequel happen.
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BacklashWave534
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My game of the year. I feel like Steam and a physical release definitley would have helped it. Not many people like the Epic store and buying digital on Xbox or Playstation means you never really own the game.
El Muerto
Member
If I can't buy it on Steam first (or if it's a half-assed port) then i'll buy the physical disc for consoles. It will probably be locked to EGS since they backed it, but that store isnt going to be around forever since it's not profitable. And if we're not getting a physical release then I'll wait for it to hit gamepass.
DavidGzz
Member
RE3 Remake and RE4, for sure. RE2 Remake? Alan Wake has a dodge, a mechanic to remove armor, and fast enemies. Wake has better gameplay than RE 2 Remake. Did you even play it?
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
Waiting for it to come to the Pass
DavidGzz
Member
You bought it and only played a few hours? Or maybe you watched a stream and pretending that you bought and played it. You're missing out if so, also what a waste of money, lol! The newer RE games(7&8) are really slow in some parts with long cut scenes. Maybe you're only talking about the Remakes.
BacklashWave534
Member
A good, complex story to much for you? AW2 puts Resident Evil to shame. This coming from a lifelong RE fan.
Mr. PlayStation
Member
Lack of disc release hurt the sales perhaps? Didn't see AW2 pulling off a BG3 in sales (BG3 was a digital-only release across PC and PS5)
Apocryphon
Member
It’ll do fine like Control over the long run. It’s not for everybody but it’s an incredibly well produced game with some of the best visuals I have ever experienced. The writing is.. fine.. but it works.
It reminds me of the Silent Hill games more than anything else. I’d certainly rather play AW2 than dogshit games like RE5/6/RE3R/Village.
It reminds me of the Silent Hill games more than anything else. I’d certainly rather play AW2 than dogshit games like RE5/6/RE3R/Village.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Considering Epic funded the game with exclusivity fees of some kind, Remedy probably doesnt care about unit sales. As long as they get marketing/funding to cover costs they are happy. Their game library has a history of hardware platform and e-store exclusivity deals. Being digital only is another limitation on their end, but they dont seem to care about releasing games holistically for everyone.
They know their games have limited appeal and sales, so it's too risky to release them on their own hoping for big sales the traditional way going disc and digital across every key platform at the same time.
BG is different IMO. Even though the last BG game came out 25 years ago (not including those Diablo-ish spin off games), it's still got a legacy across RPG gamers. On the other hand, there is no way the average modern day gamer thinks Alan Wake 1 is such a fantastic game, everyone would be stampeding to buy AW2 no matter how good the reviews are.
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Power Pro
Gold Member
What sucks about this is that I'm in the middle of the game right now and it's the best game I've played this fall so far. Spider-man 2, Super Mario Bros Wonder, Super Mario RPG, I found to be all lacking big time this fall. Had no expectations for Alan Wake 2 cuz I didn't like the first one, but I loved Control, so I felt I had to check this out, and I'm super into what it's doing. Spider-man 2 is gonna sell millions just for the character and it's not even half as good of a game Alan Wake 2 has been so far.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Thats the power of branding. Superman 64 is always on any site's worst games list. It sold around 1M units, which at that time was pretty good considering the N64 user base count.
existensmaximum
Member
I would love to play it but I'll never buy it unless it's released physically, or unrealistically heavily discounted 
Edit: It's not on Steam? Oh, guess I'll never buy it then.
Edit: It's not on Steam? Oh, guess I'll never buy it then.
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CrustyBritches
Gold Member
I’ll wait for 1 of the following:
-Steam release
-GoG release
-EGS free giveaway
-Steam release
-GoG release
-EGS free giveaway
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SimTourist
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People have no taste, no big revelation here.