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[bender]

The next Xbox came sooner than anyone expected.

 

[Lunarorbit]

Hopefully this works cause I'm so fucking sick of microsoft trying to put xbox everywhere. Good for you but please stop clapping yourselves on the back every couple of years when you try this initiative.

 

[Synless]

Looks like you all got an Xbox device after all .

*Xbox is now the best selling system ever created”

 

[gokurho]

Now that Google is gone and Amazon a partner, it seems like Xbox has no competition. Fucking monopolies!

Phil Spencer: "We see Amazon and Google as the main competitors"

As Microsoft continues its shift into game streaming and digital-only, Xbox boss Phil Spencer says PlayStation and Nint…

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When you talk about Nintendo and Sony, we have a ton of respect for them, but we see Amazon and Google as the main competitors going forward

Our King

 

[Eiknarf]

Is there gonna be mad glitches and bugs and things not functioning properly?

 

[PropellerEar]

Possibility to use PS controller!

"BIGGEST TECHNICAL LEAP" for Xbox!

 

[Gamer_By_Proxy]

Your experience is the minority. Don’t make an assumption on these types of products based on just your experience. ShadowPC did not work well where I was before, worked great once I moved.

I gotta Eero Pro mesh WiFi and pretty good internet. If I’m the minority, they’re in trouble.

 

[kapshin]

I will actually use this, I have some sideload jank on mine but it works decent. When they say soon like days or what anyone know?

EDIT: found it July apparently

 

[Starbuck2907]

Yep. You can already stream Xcloud over newer Samsung tvs, too. I’ve never had a problem with it. Works great.

 

[LavitzSlambert]

This is Microsoft doing what they do best, software on everyone else's hardware. Their whole strategy involves making sure their games get released where the people are, they are killing it.

 

[UltimaKilo]

I gotta Eero Pro mesh WiFi and pretty good internet. If I’m the minority, they’re in trouble.

Not sure what that is, but you probably live far from a server and should also try Ethernet for all streaming services.

 

[Sorcerer]

Yes, and they chose Amazon, which was curious. I would have gone to Roku and Google first.

I get the feeling these companies would not give Microsoft the time of day if they are not promised some kind of exclusivity. I believe Samsung is still the only TV manufacturer to offer Gamepass on it's sets. Sucks that Samsung killed Steamlink on it's sets by the way.
Kind of odd that Gamepass is only mentioned for the lowest end Fire devices. Nothing for the Cube or any Fire TV sets? Perhaps it's by design so Microsoft could emphasize the value of getting Gamepass on a very inexpensive device? And maybe then you would not question the price of the subscription too much?

Also Google just released Playables for Youtube. I had no idea it was cloud gaming. Although easier to pull off with the games they are offering. Perhaps they had no interest in Gamepass overshadowing them in this area.
If Google can actually pull legit cloud gaming through Youtube in a few years, I think it will be game over for everybody else in the cloud gaming space.

 

[Gamer_By_Proxy]

Not sure what that is, but you probably live far from a server and should also try Ethernet for all streaming services.

nah, i'm right outside Atlanta. I mainly used xcloud on my steam deck, so no ethernet, didn't dock it.

 

[Fess]

Sooner than expected, their infrastructure isn’t there yet, and needs to be on Apple TV too, and needs to be unlocked from console hardware on the server side. But it’s a start.

 

[alphachino]

Sony need to get PlayStation streaming onto Netflix next, or bundle it in with a premium Crunchyroll tier. PS3 streaming is still holding back their streaming ambitions IMO.

 

[reinking]

Do people think this is going honestly to move the needle? Not fantasy numbers but a true increase in subs for Game Pass? I'm not seeing it but I have been wrong before.

 

[Sorcerer]

Do people think this is going honestly to move the needle? Not fantasy numbers but a true increase in subs for Game Pass? I'm not seeing it but I have been wrong before.

If Microsoft can keep up the momentum from the showcase, you may get casuals who would never pony up for a Series X or S, to take a chance on a cheap firestick (they may already own anyway) to try out some games. Problem is they may drop in for a game, drop out when they are done with the game if they are that casual anyway. That's always a problem when going for the lowest common denominator, loyalty is never a guarantee. I suspect Doom will drive some subs for sure. Call of Duty players are probably a bit more than casual.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Do people belive this is a big deal? I have seen some thumnails... but this is so inconsequential. It's just a natural and obvious move.

 

[CS Lurker]

Sad that xcloud still has the same shit bitrate

 

[BearNecessity]

Isnt xcloud still on 1080p?

 

[kapshin]

Isnt xcloud still on 1080p?

Unless something changed recently yes

 

[Starhowl]

I don’t care how many devices they put it on until they fix their servers. They are absolute shit. Graphics quality is horrible and the latency is worse. They need to quit expanding the service and fix the service first then maybe people will care it’s an absolute crying, shame, how bad they are compared to the competition.

What I dislike most is that the colors are off.

 

[KungFucius]

Then why wasn't this done years ago?

Really? Was Microsoft reaching out to get streaming on devices years ago? Was the Fire Stick 4k gen 1 compatible? Was the service available on other, similar products and TV Oses that compete against FireTV years ago? Why does something need to happen in the past to validate a claim that Amazon puts competing services on their devices? They do this because FireTV is their attempt to provide a winning solution as a TV OS/UX upgrade device and MS reached out to them and the time was right. With the way people sub/unsub streaming services having Xbox on a FireStick could actually strengthen Luna because people could try that service after setting it up for Xbox. Amazon can directly sell subs and link it to your account too.

 

[SmurfMustard]

Possibility to use PS controller!

"BIGGEST TECHNICAL LEAP" for Xbox!

When everyone plays, we all win.....

 

[Topher]

Really?

Yes. Really. Phil Spencer infamously called Amazon (and Google) Microsoft's "main competition" just a few years ago, moreso than Sony and Nintendo. Now Microsoft and Amazon are partners.

"Rivals are now partners" sums that up pretty well.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Are they upgrading Xcloud?

I feel they need to do that before they push forward with any of this stuff. They should be providing the best experience out of anyone, not the worst.

 

[j0hnnix]

shoot and i already switched back to my shield in the living room. i really did love using geforce now but didnt want to pay for the extra sub.

 

[Schmick]

Get Minecraft on xCloud please MS (with keyboard and mouse support). I wont have to keep my Xbox One anymore and can my upgrade my TV to a new Samsung one with Xbox Gamepass and Geforce Now preloaded!

 

[Gambit2483]

Do people belive this is a big deal? I have seen some thumnails... but this is so inconsequential. It's just a natural and obvious move.

Yea, until MS somehow manages to get the "Xbox app" pre-installed in the major TV brands this kind of cloud/streaming strategy is not going to do much if anything.

 

[Ev1L AuRoN]

The FireTV OS has quite a lot of input lag. Good luck for the users

 

[Eiknarf]

So if you could play Next Gen Gaming with a $60 FireStick, does that mean consoles are overpriced? Why would anyone pay $499 for a PlayStation 5 XBOX Series X?

Shouldn't they be no more than $199??

 

[YCoCg]

So if you could play Next Gen Gaming with a $60 FireStick, does that mean consoles are overpriced? Why would anyone pay $499 for a PlayStation 5 XBOX Series X?

Shouldn't they be no more than $199??

$60 + $40-60 for a controller + $20 for an Ethernet Adapter + $120 for a year of Games Pass.

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

Probably the reason why they decided to drop the xbox cloud device. Makes sense though - there are millions of fire sticks already.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

Probably the reason why they decided to drop the xbox cloud device. Makes sense though - there are millions of fire sticks already.

It wasn't going to sell. Streaming games is a niche market for now and the foreseeable future. They're simply putting their hands in every basket they can.

 

[Eiknarf]

$60 + $40-60 for a controller + $20 for an Ethernet Adapter + $120 for a year of Games Pass.

So $60 plus $60 for the controller plus $20 for the Ethernet Adapter equals $140

(I’m not including the game pass cuz peeps who don’t buy physical games use that to play games on their consoles already)

So $199 sounds right for the next XBOX console (if they make one) and the next Play-Station 6 (if they plan to compete).

People won’t drop $499 for a PS6 when the competition is $60 plus a controller

So no, the PS6 will no longer be $499

 

[StreetsofBeige]

I dont do cloud/stream gaming, so all I can go on are what people say on forums.

Are any of these streaming services good? So even for twitchy MP games, its good enough to be competitive? Or in MP games, you'll always get smoked by wired gamers?

By the sounds of it, stream services are junk(?) on gaming forums.

 

[YCoCg]

I dont do cloud/stream gaming, so all I can go on are what people say on forums.

Are any of these streaming services good? So even for twitchy MP games, its good enough to be competitive? Or in MP games, you'll always get smoked by wired gamers?

By the sounds of it, stream services are junk(?) on gaming forums.

Only REAL good one is Geforce Now by Nvidia since they use their custom hardware to stream at the lowest latency possible and can even stream up to 120fps to help it out even more.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

So $60 plus $60 for the controller plus $20 for the Ethernet Adapter equals $140

(I’m not including the game pass cuz peeps who don’t buy physical games use that to play games on their consoles already)

So $199 sounds right for the next XBOX console (if they make one) and the next Play-Station 6 (if they plan to compete).

People won’t drop $499 for a PS6 when the competition is $60 plus a controller

So no, the PS6 will no longer be $499

"People won’t drop $499 for a PS6 when the competition is $60 plus a controller"

Why not? You've frequently been able to get a series s for huge discounts and they still haven't sold. You're overestimating the mainstream appeal of Ms and streaming by a huge margin.

 

[poppabk]

Only REAL good one is Geforce Now by Nvidia since they use their custom hardware to stream at the lowest latency possible and can even stream up to 120fps to help it out even more.

And MS are now starting some kind of partnership with Nvidia for Geforce Now.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

ok. I just heard a good analysis.

This "partnership" is going to be one of those things were the Xbox community/influencers are going to hype it to the stratosphere to: "set xbox for world domination"... it seems the market interesting in gaming via Amazon luna/free games is around 300,000..

let's be optimistic and say that GP on the Amazon stick could bring 1M subs....whats else? how is GP going to achieve 100M+ subs by '27-'28?

 

[AJUMP23]

Is this available. I wanted to check it out.

 

[fudgybrownie]

Jezz thinks this will grow the install base of xbox console hardware. Lol.

 

[SportsFan581]

Good get for them. Roku would probably be even bigger, if the controller connection requirement wasn't a thing (that's where one of those controllers that connects directly to the cloud would do wonders).