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AMD Radeon RX 9070 expected to start at $479, available as soon as late January.

rm082e

Member
I will be very surprised if this card can actually match frame rates in gaming with a 4080.
 
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StereoVsn

Gold Member
If you say so, I'm just telling you how it was, and how it currently is, and how 480 to ~700 has nothing to do with VAT.
It would be most likely $500 to €600. Basically it’s mostly 20-% difference which is VAT. If companies are charging €700, well then it’s BS or something really weird with shipping (partially can thank Houthis for that).
 

SolidQ

Member
I will be very surprised if this card can actually match frame rates in gaming with a 4080.
What is mystery for us, it's amount of caches, that why a lot leaks around 4080

P.S got some info. Caches in changes
 
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Assaulty

Member
Exact reason why I'm going Nvidia this gen was hoping AMD release a successor to the 7900 XTX but nope

I was also waiting out for a new flagship card to retire my 6900xt. Will probably get a 5070TI, unless the 9070XT 3dmark figures translate into real gaming performance and the card really is close to the 4080, for the rumored msrp, that's a bargain.
 
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Axelon

Neo Member
Nvidias high-end cards aren't just used for gaming. They will sell bucketloads to people who need the compute power without spending 15k for a workstation card.
Yeah exactly. The 4090/5090 aren't actually made for gaming, but they market it to the mass as so. More for workstations as you said.
 

SighFight

Member
My hope would be 479$/550€ for the 9070 and 579$/670€ for the 9070 XT.

If they could then lower the price of the 7800 XT and 7700 XT by 100$/€ each they would have a compelling lineup.

But if they fail to deliver the ~4080 performance, this generation is lost anyhow.
 

00_Zer0

Member
I need to experience it first hand. I always have a more negative experience with FSR than what reviews claim. I’ve had the opposite experience with the Nvidia stuff.
The newer FSR requires dedicated ML cores in the hardware to take full advantage of it unlike any other AMD GPU before, so I'm this case I fully expect for AMD to compete with DLSS in that way.
 
If it's just 7900 GRE performance for 550, that's meh. The GRE is nowhere near 4080 levels of performance

There's lots of info going around, we need reviews!!
They already have 7900xtx cards.

Those are being positioned as 7900gre level cards for this gen. With FSR4 and whatever ray tracing improvements they have done.

9070xt has TBD of 330 watts so its definitely more powerful than GRE.
 
If it's just 7900 GRE performance for 550, that's meh. The GRE is nowhere near 4080 levels of performance

There's lots of info going around, we need reviews!!
It has better Raytracing performance and has FSR 4.0 how the hell is this a 7900 GRE??
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CrustyBritches

Gold Member
If those new scores are accurate and the price is good, they could have a winner on their hands. The most important thing by far is to get FSR4 into Cyberpunk, Wukong, Indiana Jones, R&C Rift Apart, and Alan Wake 2.
 
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Ivan

Member
Sounds interesting. I really hope their collaboration with Sony will bring something good in the area that was their weakest spot for years.

And it will be interesting for future consoles too. Can't wait to see if amd actually made something good.
 

FireFly

Member
Let me fix that for you - It might have better ray tracing performance. Nothing is confirmed.

Also when comparing raw performance numbers (or tiers) - we don't factor in upscaling tech.
We can be pretty confident that the ray tracing improvements Cerny talked about in the PS5 Pro are from RDNA 4, since he described them as coming from a "future" AMD architecture, and UDNA doesn't seem to be close.
 

FingerBang

Member
This is big if true. 4080super performance at half the price is pretty much what we used to get (good old Moore's Law) every generation, but it also means they'd be sacrificing profit for market share.

But AMD has been a constant disappointment on the GPU side, I really struggle to believe it's true.

The only thing that makes me think they'll be competitive on the mid-range is Nvidia reducing their prices for the 5070 and 5070ti.
 
AMD have a long way to go.

FSR4 needs to match DLSS in quality. They also need 'FSR HDR'

But it's a start.

This would be a good upgrade for 3000 series owners that are looking to get 4080 performance if the leaks are true though. The 4080 is a great card imo; runs absolutely everything without a hitch.
 

FlyyGOD

Member


AMD living up to its promise of aggressively targeting the affordable midrange. Flagship GPU that undercuts the RTX 5070 in price.

Feels like the 2010’s again!
At these prices I wonder if some variant of this card or tech goes into the new xbox .
 

SABRE220

Member
The new AMD APUs with 4070 tier performance and much lower power requirements would be a better bet.

However, yeah, this would be good for a more powerful box when coupled with say 9800x3D.
What apus are these? Any laptop high end apus for 2025?
 

Kataploom

Gold Member
Let me fix that for you - It might have better ray tracing performance. Nothing is confirmed.

Also when comparing raw performance numbers (or tiers) - we don't factor in upscaling tech.
Frank Azor from AMD confirmed RDNA 4 have much better RT performance, way above simply generational improvement
 

StereoVsn

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SABRE220

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Gaiff

SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Black Monkey
4080S
4K 33
2K 77
1080 99

XXXX XT
4K 30
2K 73
1080 97

4070Ti S
4K 28
2K 67
1080 87

Don't forget it's pretty heavy NV game, where 4060ti matches 7700XT/6800 which shoudn't
Good stuff. Where are those numbers from?
 

SolidQ

Member
Good stuff. Where are those numbers from?
Same as price/3d mark chipell. Only question it's final driver or not. Usually AIBs get lower perf drivers
RT on 4070tiS level in pro NV games

For people who writing is 64cu can't get XTX level, i was writing long time ago WGP is reworked
 
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Invalid GR

Member
Since AMD switched their product naming to better match Nvidia:
RTX 5070 549 $ > RX 9070 479$-499$
RTX 5070 Ti 749$ > RX 9070XT 679$-699$
 

Bojji

Member
People are again overhyping AMD performance. Why are you doing this to yourself?

RDNA3 was rumored to be 3x faster than 6950XT, then near launch AMD inflated numbers on slides.

It would be great if GPU has current rumored performance level but at the same time can it have rumored price? AMD doesn't do that, when they have performance they also have high price.
 

SolidQ

Member
People are again overhyping AMD performance. Why are you doing this to yourself?
Because we can have fun? :p
Above numbers not from AMD, it's China guy directly tested AIB card.


same time can it have rumored price?
They literally hint to you 7800XT/7900GRE prices
 
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Thief1987

Member
People are again overhyping AMD performance. Why are you doing this to yourself?
And this is somehow hurting you? Don't worry jacket's honor is safe.
Even if it will turn out true you will find another 100 reasons to be "concerned". Fanboys just aren't reasonable, no matter how hard they try to pretend.
 
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Bojji

Member
Because we can have fun? :p
Above numbers not from AMD, it's China guy directly tested AIB card.



They literally hint to you 7800XT/7900GRE prices

They also hint 7900XT price with their own chart.

And this is somehow hurting you? Don't worry jacket's honor is safe.
Even if it will turn out true you will find another 100 reasons to be "concerned". Fanboys just aren't reasonable, no matter how hard they try to pretend.

AMD underderlivers in GPU space 75% of the time. Every hardware launch is the same, inflated expectations and grim reality after launch.

RDNA4 is end of the line architecture (like Vega was) before UDNA, I don't think major IPC gains and stuff is going to be here.

Jacket man fucked his honor himself with that bullshit 5070=4090 statement and mediocre power jump in raw performance between 4xxx and 5xxx series.

I also owned few AMD cards in recent years so calling me a fanboy of green team is cute.
 
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