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AMD RDNA 4 and RX 9000 Series Reveal Event |OT| February 28th | 5am PST/8am EST (9070 XT $599 USD / 9070 $549 USD - Availability Starting Mar 6)
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GHG
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GHG
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No respectable outlet would break the street date intentionally.
That channel does the same thing ahead of every single GPU launch, and every time it becomes apparent that the numbers are completely made up.
Crayon
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Hopium? The announcement came and went already.
//DEVIL//
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fake. this whole channel is fake.
//DEVIL//
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Man. this tariff thing will hit really hard even if the items are not into tariffs, greed will add tariffs on everything and we will just end up suffering. this is no fun.
buying PC parts or consoles gonna be super pain in the future if things continue like this.
//DEVIL//
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This is why I got a 5080 to be honest. i think its powerful enough to run me through the next couple of years. and if i did end up getting the 5090 Astral, i can always sell the 5080 in a build or on its own msrp or 50$ below
depending on how the tariff goes here.
Crayon
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I grabbed something cheap but would get me through the console generation. Now? Errr..... A $600 9070XT might not be a terrible idea. I can keep it in the box for a few months and see how things shake out. If things calm down, I can sell if and just eat a bit on the tax. I things get nuts, I can hang with that and sell the 6800. Probably for a profit. I bought that at the lowest price before they were all gone.
ResilientBanana
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Real world benchmarks aren't here though
StereoVsn
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Definitely grab it if you can afford it. I think prices will skyrocket.
Crayon
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I'm ready for them to be lower but if so, not by much. I am reserving judgment on FSR4 though. A few people saying it looks really nice but we've hardly had anything to look at.
Dammit now I'm scurred. :/
I think I'll try to get in on an $600 one for the preorders and sit on it new in box for a minute. I don't need it at the moment and it will even outstrip my cpu, but jfc who knows what's going to happen with the economy and our prices on these things.
StereoVsn
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Yep, going to try for the same and I am sure fail spectacularly at getting a card.
lachesis
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I'm almost certain that I'll be getting 9070xt... but only thing at this point that bothers me is DLSS Super Resolution and RTX HDR for streaming videos for lower resolution contents.
If I'm only playing games on my HTPC, it would be okay - but I'll be using half of time on streaming some K-dramas on SD quality for my girlfriend as well.
So at this point, 5070 is another option as I know it will have Super Resolution and RTX HDR. 9070xt - hopefully AMD will bring similar video upgrades (I know they have some super resolution thingie for browser level, but not so sure how good they are..)
I guess I will also have to see the 5070 reviews tomorrow.
If I'm only playing games on my HTPC, it would be okay - but I'll be using half of time on streaming some K-dramas on SD quality for my girlfriend as well.
So at this point, 5070 is another option as I know it will have Super Resolution and RTX HDR. 9070xt - hopefully AMD will bring similar video upgrades (I know they have some super resolution thingie for browser level, but not so sure how good they are..)
I guess I will also have to see the 5070 reviews tomorrow.
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Panajev2001a
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Fun part to me is that they even moved to a more modern RDNA2 version than what they launched with… although they did not have to, but just did. They could have stayed with the older RDNA 1.5 ROPS for example, but nope… changed that too.
It was a very very deliberate “change everything that does not result in considerable effort for devs to adopt”, a lot changed over base PS5. In some cases, like with the RT improvements, devs need to change their code to take full advantage of the new units and instructions (there is a lot left on the table if not, but it cannot be helped) although even without doing that and getting say Tier 1 native Pro support the RT performance gets a nice boost.
Overall I think PS5 Pro is better designed than PS4 Pro for what it wants to be. Mothership wanted high profits margins and thus the pricing is what it is, but I bet the PS5 Pro has more price flexibility than PS4 Pro had.
DenchDeckard
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Ive had feedback from some friends and they say when benched this thing is getting seriously close to the 5070 ti in some games.
Im tempted to buy one to support AMD graphics devision.
That nitro + looks dope!
Im tempted to buy one to support AMD graphics devision.
That nitro + looks dope!
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kittoo
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When do reviews drop?
DenchDeckard
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Tomorrow at 2pm uk time I believe.
ValiantInstance
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Cheers Jensen.
winjer
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You can thank the orange man for that.
winjer
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6800XT OC vs 9070XT stock
7900XTX
for 4080 hard to find same setting 50%. Only found 60% FSR and FSR 40% (which show big diffrence between 40 and 60)
Another good reason to upgrade my 6800XT to a 9070.
Akuji
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Nice to see that AMD has closed the gap in RT Performance to this degree.
FSR needs to compete with DLSS and they need to have an insanely easy integration.
Pretty much every high demand game, needs to offer FSR, they do a good job in that regard. Every game that offers only DLSS is a bad thing for AMD.
They probably will go into FSR 3 / 3.1 will be the one for every GPU while FSR 4 will be the Locked out one for AMD users so they offer something unique.
Smart way, obviously not perfect but this way they atleast have something exclusive. Was unable to see the Transformer Model myself so far ( Running an 7900XT right now )
I dont think AMD needs to 100% match it, but it needs to be good enough that nobody that isnt pixxel peeping give a crap about the diffrence. Thats a very high bar still..
Lets see if they can do it.
FSR needs to compete with DLSS and they need to have an insanely easy integration.
Pretty much every high demand game, needs to offer FSR, they do a good job in that regard. Every game that offers only DLSS is a bad thing for AMD.
They probably will go into FSR 3 / 3.1 will be the one for every GPU while FSR 4 will be the Locked out one for AMD users so they offer something unique.
Smart way, obviously not perfect but this way they atleast have something exclusive. Was unable to see the Transformer Model myself so far ( Running an 7900XT right now )
I dont think AMD needs to 100% match it, but it needs to be good enough that nobody that isnt pixxel peeping give a crap about the diffrence. Thats a very high bar still..
Lets see if they can do it.
winjer
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AMD Radeon RX 9000 Series Works Best with UEFI-Only Systems
AMD has announced that beginning with its RDNA 4 architecture, only Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) Mode will be officially supported for the Radeon RX 9000 Series graphics cards and later models. This decision is intended to harness the full capabilities of the advanced UEFI...
SolidQ
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Imtjnotu
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You can't afford this leather
Corporal.Hicks
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My RTX4080S results with the same settings6800XT OC vs 9070XT stock
7900XTX
for 4080 hard to find same setting 50%. Only found 60% FSR and FSR 40% (which show big diffrence between 40 and 60)
But these are not the optimal settings for this game IMO. Very high settings look pretty much the same as cinematic, while performance is noticeably better.
With medium PT the performance improves even more and the lighting still looks amazing.
Results with lunem instead of PT. 13fps more compared to medium lumen, but the lighting looks much.
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Zathalus
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Based on that, the 9700 XT RT performance is around 4070 Ti Super level. Which is a very impressive generational improvement in RT.My RTX4080S results with the same settings
But these are not the optimal settings for this game IMO. Very high settings look pretty much the same as cinematic, while performance is noticeably better.
With medium PT the performance improves even more and the lighting still looks amazing.
Results with lunem instead of PT.
FingerBang
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This is what the leaks have been saying all along. 4080S raster performance and 4070ti RT performance, for $600.
It's a huge uplift and it makes me hopeful about the future for AMD. I would recommend this card to basically everyone over anything in the 5000 series (5090 excluded).
64gigabyteram
Reverse groomer.
If AMD wanted to bury Nvidia they would have priced these at 480 XT and 400 9070 like I wanted, but I guess those margin profits are too important for them
I'll be getting them at 480 anyways. It's AMD so stock is never low. I'm still convinced this will do nothing for marketshare since even Intel with the B580 being the second coming of the 1060 didn't make a dent
Luipadre
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From DF in that 5070 review: "The 9070/XT reviews won't be out until tomorrow, so we can't talk about numbers there, but everyone will be talking about about AMD's answer to Nvidia's 50 series lineup, let's just put it that way. And I'm not sure it's going to be particularly great news for team green."
Please have a good price in my country and availability. Im ready to jump ship
Please have a good price in my country and availability. Im ready to jump ship
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Corporal.Hicks
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RT performance is massively improved, and let's not forget that path tracing in Black Myth Wukong relies on the OMM engine built into the RTX 40/50, so that's the best case scenario for Nvidia and the worst case for the AMD card.
Imtjnotu
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Sanepar
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i'm so happy for amd, my next pc will be all red: rdna5 + zen6 x3d
iQuasarLV
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goddamn I really hope inventory is there. I do not want to have to fight scalpers and bots to get my hands on a model. Let alone a basic one, and not some overpriced RGB monstrosity.
SolidQ
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should be enough, but after that probably April/May should be with Trump tarrifs every card raise up prices
dgrdsv
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Do not set yourself up for a disappointment.
9070 XT's RT performance will likely be noticeably below 5070 Ti's (-20% or so). They will be close in non-RT games most likely.
9070's RT should be some 10-15% below 5070's probably - unless 12 vs 16GBs will come into play in places. 9070 should be +10% faster than 5070 in non-RT though.
Im pretty sure the 9700xt has very high settings in the comparison withe the 6800xt for full raytracing while you have high settings for your 4080s. Whats your fps for very high rt settings?My RTX4080S results with the same settings
But these are not the optimal settings for this game IMO. Very high settings look pretty much the same as cinematic, while performance is noticeably better.
With medium PT the performance improves even more and the lighting still looks amazing.
Results with lunem instead of PT. 13fps more compared to medium lumen, but the lighting looks much.
I think the 6800xt vs 9700xt has very high rt settings meanwhile his 4080s used the high settings so not a fair comparison. That being said cant read mandarin so a disclaimer in advance.
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SolidQ
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Only Sapphire Pulse
UK seems also fine
UK seems also fine
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Corporal.Hicks
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I run built in benchmark with full RT settings set to "very high". There are no "high RT" settings in this game, only "medium" and "very high".
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