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Apple is way overpriced, who agrees?
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NeoIkaruGAF
Gold Member
No, I didn’t.Did you know you can pin it to the menu bar?
And I thank you for this.
Still silly to remove the dedicated button, but hey, a shortcut is a shortcut. I’m really grateful for this tip.
NomenNescio
Gold Member
Look at the competition. Put an Apple machine and a competitor's machine side by side. Feel the build quality of one against the other. They're unmatched. Competitors are constantly trying to play catch up with them (using aluminium finishes, etc.), yet they'll never be the real thing, always just a copy.
They have the price customers are willing to pay, and they get away with it because they're the best.
They have the price customers are willing to pay, and they get away with it because they're the best.
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DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
I mean ... You can believe that but it's not true. LoL!
calistan
Member
You're welcome! I don't think anyone was happy that they changed those keys, but there's a free app called Karabiner-Elements that lets you remap the keyboard. You'll just have to remember that the brightness keys are labelled Dictation and Focus (who even uses those?)
DaleinCalgary
Member
okay
Topher
Identifies as young
The best when it comes to a product's build quality? Absolutely. Put that Apple machine and a competitor's machine side by side and compare specs and price. I mean.....your base price 16" Macbook Pro is $2500 and with that you are getting 512GB of storage. I can buy one hell of a non-Apple laptop with that kind of money.
There are always trade-offs.
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Mobilemofo
Member
I never even look at apple products. Very happy with android.
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
It's massively over hyped and over priced.
For a fraction of the cost of getting an iPhone, a apple watch and air pods you could get other brands that perform equally as well or even better.
Apple is to tech what brands like Gucci are to clothes. You're paying the extra money for the brand. Not the quality.
For a fraction of the cost of getting an iPhone, a apple watch and air pods you could get other brands that perform equally as well or even better.
Apple is to tech what brands like Gucci are to clothes. You're paying the extra money for the brand. Not the quality.
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DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
I was at Christian Audigier's South Beach opening of one of his stores over a decade back... Me and my friends got free shirts that somehow cost $100 ... That my sister could have made for $25... Just to further your point with the Gucci brand. Just reminded me of that... It was a fun party tho.
spoken like a true brainwashed person.
Madserb2023
Member
They are too expensive. I can somewhat justify their laptops and tablets as they are genuinely good and arguably deliver the best power to performance ratio on the market. Their desktops and phones on the other hand are just a waste of money.
David B
An Idiot
Have a good time with those high per month prices with Verizon or AT&T.
MikeM
Member
Canadian so
David B
An Idiot
Things leave my mind a lot. I forgot about the overprice thing, I was searching google and boom my old thread showed up. Now while I like Apple products they still are overpriced. Especially those headphones they have, starts at like $500 dollars. WTF? Headphones be like only $20 to $50 from normal companies.
Cyberpunkd
Member
Nothing is overpriced as there is not a one objective standard for how much should something cost. It might be overpriced for you, but unless the company is going out of business that is not shared by the majority of customers. You can however make an argument that Apple's main strength is the interconnectivity of devices, not so much raw hardware specs.
David B
An Idiot
Look at the poll results.
Apple is way overpriced, who agrees?
Yes (Overpriced)
Votes: 173 77.6%No (Not overpriced)
Votes: 50 22.4%
WhiteWaterM00se
Member
So, for context. I have been an heavy Apple user since 1998. Apple is terribly overpriced, but the eco system is what keeps people there.
No joke, and a point of contention (I know)… Apple iMessage crushes every other texting on the market.
Apple is now selling privacy and health which is the aim of the products going forward. Much to the angst of the Google ceo.
But the product quality has gone down since the pandemic, and (I understand why, as they establish new supply chains)
And even before the pandemic, the product quality has dropped substantially since Steve Jobs death. Look at the build quality of the first MacBook Air, or iPhone 4, 5, IPhone 6. iMac, MacBook Pro 2010-2014. Amazing products.
Yes, the Apple products are overpriced though. In fairness, what tech is not overpriced? Seriously. Samsung
are equal to Apple, and it isn’t good. Xbox is a joke of product.
Nintendo Switch stick drift, the biggest gaming mishap since RROD.
Hell if you offered me a free ps5 with the stipulation it has to be used every week, I would decline. My wife and I don’t want that abomination under my TV.
You really want to talk about bad product quality. My son chose a Surface Book over a MacBook for college because of his loyalty to pc gaming and Xbox.
Guess what died in 14 months?! And now he uses a MacBook which I had to provide.
Tech has been a race to the bottom for years now.
I’m on my 3rd set of AirPod pros since launch because Apple considers me a “power user” and I’m hard on them.
Apple TV could be a whole thread discussion on what the hell they are doing with that, and even as misguided as it is, it is Still far And away the best interface for television.
No joke, and a point of contention (I know)… Apple iMessage crushes every other texting on the market.
Apple is now selling privacy and health which is the aim of the products going forward. Much to the angst of the Google ceo.
But the product quality has gone down since the pandemic, and (I understand why, as they establish new supply chains)
And even before the pandemic, the product quality has dropped substantially since Steve Jobs death. Look at the build quality of the first MacBook Air, or iPhone 4, 5, IPhone 6. iMac, MacBook Pro 2010-2014. Amazing products.
Yes, the Apple products are overpriced though. In fairness, what tech is not overpriced? Seriously. Samsung
are equal to Apple, and it isn’t good. Xbox is a joke of product.Nintendo Switch stick drift, the biggest gaming mishap since RROD.
Hell if you offered me a free ps5 with the stipulation it has to be used every week, I would decline. My wife and I don’t want that abomination under my TV.
You really want to talk about bad product quality. My son chose a Surface Book over a MacBook for college because of his loyalty to pc gaming and Xbox.
Guess what died in 14 months?! And now he uses a MacBook which I had to provide.
Tech has been a race to the bottom for years now.
I’m on my 3rd set of AirPod pros since launch because Apple considers me a “power user” and I’m hard on them.
Apple TV could be a whole thread discussion on what the hell they are doing with that, and even as misguided as it is, it is Still far And away the best interface for television.
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Mattyp
Not the YouTuber
What the? Their $500 noise cancelling are in the same price realm as the competition.
Sony, Bose, Apple, all these products pay for themself with one long term flight I’ve got 5 pairs of Bose QCs at this point.
Smiggs
Member
But how would everyone know I have an iPhone if I'm using a case? I mean, yeah, basically every case has a whole cut out on the back for the logo (lol), but you know what I'm saying!!!
Lambogenie
Member
Most of these fuckers are overpriced.
At least you sometimes had brands like OnePlus challenging with a great value proposition but even they suck now.
At least you sometimes had brands like OnePlus challenging with a great value proposition but even they suck now.
NeoIkaruGAF
Gold Member
Apple’s ecosystem and brand recognition is what saved them from losing it all in the face of their inevitable stagnation.
They used to innovate constantly. Always setting new goalposts for everyone.
But in time the feature creep felt more and more like feature cutting, keeping stuff for the next yearly iteration.
The backpedaling has also been pretty embarrassing. That awful “butterfly” keyboard, the touch bar, the removal of the magnetic charging port. Just to backpedal a few years later. I can’t wait for the day they admit a notch on the screen is dumb. But I know that when they remove it, they’ll put in something just as dumb.
And they keep raising their prices for what at this point amounts to marginal improvements in many of their products. Except for the top-of-the-line ones, that 99% of people don’t need anyway.
It’s a shame that the rest of the industry followed straight into Apple’s footsteps, basically killing originality, innovation and practicality for more than a decade. Every top product from any other manufacturer has to be an Apple wannabe, and all the rest must look and feel like a poor man’s Apple. Apple strips a port from their devices? Cool, we’ll strip it too!
It’s not like they have a choice. Apple has convinced everyone that if they do something it’s the thing to do, and if they don’t do something, whoever does it fails to catch on. The mantra is, “if Apple does it, it’s ready for the masses, and if it doesn’t, then it’s not ready”.
Fbh
Member
Those $20-50 headphones aren't going to be as good as the more expensives ones from Apple. And the ones from other brands which are going to be comparable in quality and features are going to be in a similar price range.
If you want something similar to the Airpods Max you'll be looking at Sony's WH-1000XM5 or the Bose Quietconfort line, not the entry level $30 JBL ones.
That's a big difference between Apple and other brands.
A company like Sony will make a whole range of headphones going from affordable $40 ones to premium $400 ones. Apple usually skips the low end devices and only makes the mid and high end ones.
To be clear, Apple products still tend to be overpriced, but not like 10X as much as other brands.
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DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
Umm... No they don't. The OnePlus 13 is more than great value... Their cameras now rival iPhone and Samsung...
Fastest charging in the US market, biggest battery, smoothest OS, best water resistance, one of the toughest phones as demonstrated by JerryRigsEverything ... Ordering direct from OnePlus with one of their cases gives you everything in a phone. It's better than iPhone at this point.
Edit... While also being cheaper than the competition
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WhiteWaterM00se
Member
I agree with your statement.
Apple is the trendsetter and everyone else seems to follow. Innovation in general has stagnated.
The VR revolution and the Metaverse was a “fools errand” thinking we would all live in the VR world for our daily lives. Ridiculous. Knee jerk reaction to the pandemic. Same with all these companies believing their “own” streaming service is the answer. We don’t need 50 streaming services. Combine and follow a modified Spotify method where most watched content gets the most royalties.
Ironically, some of the things that will drive growth, are what companies are scared about and won’t do. For example, When Steve Jobs suggested that TV companies create “dumb panels” and allow Apple and Google to create the software for TV’s. Similar to Car Play and Android Car.
Companies don’t want to diminish their brand and refuse to comply. Even though, the consumer world be better off long term from a compatibility standpoint.
Same with gaming, even Nintendo. If everyone was on the same platform it would expedite gaming growth. But MS, Sony, Valve, and Nintendo will not agree to that. Nor does Nvidia or AMD want them too. But it would be pro consumer.
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Lambogenie
Member
Their pricing sucks now, I mean. Better value but they're not what they once were in my opinion.
ResilientBanana
Member
iPad Pro is worth the money for the power. How is $1000 overpriced when it has a plethora of functionality? You also don’t need to buy the latest iPhone. So no, I don’t think they are overpriced when you are buying the latest technology they have to offer.
You could just get a 10th gen iPad and an iPhone SE, 13, 14, or what have you. But you need to make a decision on want vs need.
You could just get a 10th gen iPad and an iPhone SE, 13, 14, or what have you. But you need to make a decision on want vs need.
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DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
If they want to grow and have value ... They have to include the best tech... But it STILL comes under the competition. Especially Apple
Walter Matthau
Member
Really depends on the product or accessory. Mac mini is an absolute steal for what it's capable of. Meanwhile, there's the "Pro Stand" with a price so absurd that you would think it's satire.
But who pays full retail for a sammy? I've been rolling my old one into a new one for YEARS, can't even remember the last time I paid more thana few bucks/month at most for the newest flagship model.
Days like these...
Have a Blessed Day
I wouldn't pay over $1000 for any phone doesn't matter the brand unless it's a foldable.
MilkyJoe
Member
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
OnePlus is your best bet in the States. Under 1k for a candybar phone... And their foldable is the best there is.
Days like these...
Have a Blessed Day
Their new foldable is about to launch and it's a game changer. I always import my phones from Aliexpress
Walter Matthau
Member
The lowest spec iMac these days is 16GB. The meme still works for storage though since the default is 256GB.
Cyberpunkd
Member
Pro tip: never buy the base version if everything, margins are the highest there.
ReBurn
Gold Member
I recently went in for a 14" M4 Pro MacBook Pro with 24 GB RAM and 1 TB SSD and for the work I do on it I don't feel like I paid too much, especially considering the productivity I gain for some workloads. I don't use it as a fashion accessory, though. I put it to work. It doesn't work like a Windows PC and that's a good thing. It's so much better for pretty much all software development I do that isn't Windows/C#.
Working locally with smaller LLM's like Llama3.2 via Python is faster to set up and smoother to execute on the MacBook Pro than it is on any of my x64 Windows machines, even my i9 Lenovo mobile workstation with 64 GB RAM. Plus quality of life features like being able to wirelessly extend a second screen to my iPad keeps wires and clutter to a minimum.
I'm thinking of trying out one of the Windows copilot machines with the ARM chip to see how that performs compared to my other machines.
Working locally with smaller LLM's like Llama3.2 via Python is faster to set up and smoother to execute on the MacBook Pro than it is on any of my x64 Windows machines, even my i9 Lenovo mobile workstation with 64 GB RAM. Plus quality of life features like being able to wirelessly extend a second screen to my iPad keeps wires and clutter to a minimum.
I'm thinking of trying out one of the Windows copilot machines with the ARM chip to see how that performs compared to my other machines.
bitbydeath
Member
This.
Any/most? computers involving MacOS is high value and worth the price.
OSX - iPhone/iPads are borderline, but their value is enhanced if you have MacOS or even just other Mac devices.
Their accessories however are quite often overpriced.
MilkyJoe
Member
Pro tip: never buy apple products
Ipad is Apple's best product. Anyone who says the ipad is expensive and i'm talking the bottom line one, buy and Android tablet for the same price and compare it. Iphones are crazy expensive, but so do the Samsungs etc. Macbook Air has a fair price in my opinion, in line with pretty much all the ultrabooks on the market, i have a Zenbook and it's almost the same price.