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[Draugoth]

The recently released Redfall really didn't fall to the taste of the players and what they are playing are just finding bugs, and an "AI" that's more artifficial than intelligent

The game has been available for a few hours, but it was enough time for players to test the game and get an idea, but unfortunately the result is not the best. On social networks, for example, we already have videos highlighting how the enemy AI is doing during the game, which unfortunately is weak and does not seem to work correctly. The AI is horrible on any difficulty. Enemies in Redfall just don't react, even with you running and shooting like crazy on the side, and those who try to do something are slow.







Due to this low-quality AI, the game has virtually no challeng, which makes the game easy on all difficulties Anyway, given the current situation of the game, players are waiting for updates with improvements.

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As of right now, Redfall (Xbox Series X version) has a 64 Metascore on Metacritic, making it Arkane's lowest rated game of all time. Just to give you an idea, thegame surpassed the classics Arx Fatalis (71 of Metascore) and Dark Messiah Might and Magic (72 of Metascore) in negativity. The user notes option will be released tomorrow for Redfall, which will likely be very low. The situation regarding Redfall is worrying even on Steam, as the title has registered 589 negative reviews and only 233 positive reviews - at the time of this post.

 

[feynoob]

Kill it

 

[LaughingStock]

There's bad AI and there's whatever Arkane had been doing. It's like they didn't even try.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Already uninstalled

 

[Sgt.Asher]

They somehow made the AI worse than deathloop.

 

[GymWolf]

More like IQfall.

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

Why are people on steam spending $70 on this?

 

[SlimySnake]

More like IQfall.

Redfail?

 

[SmokedMeat]

Didn’t anyone play test this??

I can’t imagine these vampires taking over a nursing home, let alone a town.

 

[kyussman]

Blimey,Fallout '76 vibes,lol......Bethesda on a roll!

 

[Rayderism]

Artificial Ignorance?

 

[Fbh]

But I was told in another thread that the reason this is 30fps on Series X despite looking like an early last gen game is because running so much complex AI in a Co-op open world is impossible on consoles.

 

[diffusionx]

Deathloop's AI was bad, but like bad by normal standards. This is bad by 1997 normal standards

 

[GHG]

But I was told in another thread that the reason this is 30fps on Series X despite looking like an early last gen game is because running so much complex AI in a Co-op open world is impossible on consoles.

We were told lots of things. Funny that those who told us those things are nowhere to be seen at the moment.

 

[feynoob]

Already uninstalled

I run away when the reviewer said enemies don't detect you if you run away from them.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

a disaster like this will shut down the studio.

 

[SirKicksalot]

Is it cloud AI? They're acting like Titanfall's bots.

 

[BossLackey]

Who was this game even made for?!

It looks so abysmally generic I legitimately don't understand what they were thinking.

 

[Buggy Loop]

A glimpse of the AI system in this game :

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

More like IQfall.

Redfail?

Redflag

 

[R6Rider]

Probably the worst AI I've seen since Metro Exodus.

 

[Tomofdahook17]

Ok wow, this is much worse than I initially thought it was. This has to be the worst first party game release I've ever seen.

 

[CherryFalls]

The studio must be shut down

 

[demigod]

Never have i seen piss poor AI like this in a game. It’s like they didn’t bother testing their game. They need to hire QA folks.

Also didn’t they fly folks out to preview the game? Did those folks miss this or were they only shown prerecorded shit? I thought IGN had hands on, how the fuck did they miss this or intentionally gloss over it?

 

[DeepEnigma]

Never have i seen piss poor AI like this in a game. It’s like they didn’t bother testing their game. They need to hire QA folks.

Also didn’t they fly folks out to preview the game? Did those folks miss this or were they only shown prerecorded shit? I thought IGN had hands on, how the fuck did they miss this or intentionally gloss over it?

 

[feynoob]

Never have i seen piss poor AI like this in a game. It’s like they didn’t bother testing their game. They need to hire QA folks.

Also didn’t they fly folks out to preview the game? Did those folks miss this or were they only shown prerecorded shit? I thought IGN had hands on, how the fuck did they miss this or intentionally gloss over it?

This is the result of patching the game after release.

Companies are lazy these days.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

This is the result of patching the game after release.

Companies are lazy these days.

is not laziness my duuude staph

 

[ThisIsMyDog]

CD Projekt when they see now tsunami of unfinished, untested games being released to the market.

 

[FrankWza]

Already uninstalled

Too late man... You've been "reached,"

 

[feynoob]

Ok wow, this is much worse than I initially thought it was. This has to be the worst first party game release I've ever seen.

They saw Bethesda fallout 76 and said hold my cup.

 

[feynoob]

is not laziness my duuude staph

It's lazy leaving the patch after release.
These companies need to release the game with less bugs. Not shit like this.

 

[Nankatsu]

Poor Arkane. How the mighty have fallen.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

It's lazy leaving the patch after release.
These companies need to release the game with less bugs. Not shit like this.

is not laziness. find another word.

 

[Tomofdahook17]

They saw Bethesda fallout 76 and said hold my cup.

I know right. But even that was third party. Can you imagine a new Playstation game coming out from Insomniac or someone and performing like this!?

 

[G-DannY]

"immersive sim"

 

[3liteDragon]

How did this go through QA? I guess the real question should be if it even did.

 

[feynoob]

I know right. But even that was third party. Can you imagine a new Playstation game coming out from Insomniac or someone and performing like this!?

It will be fire here.

 

[feynoob]

How did this go through QA?

Pressure from higher ups.

 

[Kataploom]

I don't get how can they do such a bad job, I'm solo developing my game and had more issues making my AI not overwhelm the player with actively attacking... and that was for about 1 hour or so before implementing a couple behavior nodes... And I was new to Behavior Trees.

I don't like calling devs "lazy" because no one in a company is "lazy" unless higher ups don't care about paying a non-working employee, but there's definitely some incompetence there, yes, supervision is necessary to avoid going out in that state but how a dev in a AAA studio even send something like that to revision?

IDK, seems like something happened because in the trailers the AI seems WAAAAAY more aggressive and pro-active.

 

[Neilg]

lol people are making this out to be that the AI is inferior, but it's clearly just a software bug.
it shouldnt have been released in this state, yeah, but it's not like it's universally low quality with no challenge... it just breaks really easily.

 

[Fake]

Plot twist: Devs make the AI learrn to play from game journalist.

 

[GHG]

lol people are making this out to be that the AI is inferior, but it's clearly just a software bug.
it shouldnt have been released in this state, yeah, but it's not like it's universally low quality with no challenge... it just breaks really easily.

Before we were told this AI is a "feature". Now it's a bug?

What to believe.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Pressure from higher ups.

i thought it was just laziness

 

[Neilg]

Before we were told this AI is a "feature". Now it's a bug?

What to believe.

I dont believe anyone has claimed that an enemy not responding when shot at was a feature. and if someone did say that, they're an idiot and i'm still right.

 

[feynoob]

Before we were told this AI is a "feature". Now it's a bug?

What to believe.

It can be the case.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.po...lonial-marines-fixing-code-typo-ai-xenomorphs

the devs needs to find the issue ASAP and fix as fast as possible. This shit is bad.

 

[GHG]

I dont believe anyone has claimed that an enemy not responding when shot at was a feature. and if someone did say that, they're an idiot and i'm still right.

Here you go:

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/redf...ook-ign-first-gameplay.1655160/post-267810848

More in that thread as well.

 

[Black_Stride]

The studio must be shut down

They made Prey so absolutely not.

 

[Buggy Loop]

Is it cloud AI?

Very good question

I would hope so

As in it works fine if servers are fixed, but if this is local AI... yikes

 

[GymWolf]

"immersive sim"

Enemies are too immersed in their thoughts to notice you.

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

The human AI is piss poor unless they’re grouped together but I think that’s kind of by design, they are supposed to be the enemies you wipe through. I’ve played almost three missions and some free roam and the vampires I’ve come across are all aggressive and interesting to face.

Only real glitch I have come across so far was a cultist human walking backwards.