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[ReBurn]

Cutting 7000 jobs. Wow... here it comes...

I wonder if the conversation starts with "Imagine you still had stable income"

 

[DeepEnigma]

All praise Iger! The savior!

 

[Harlock]

ClownfishTV and MidnightEdge are having an orgasm right now.

 

[MrA]

I wonder if the conversation starts with "Imagine you still had stable income"

Who's hr at disney this guy

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Let's go Mickey Mouse Clubhouse x Gargoyles collaboration porn incoming.

 

[Sonik]

lol they're fucked

Disney+ Drops 2.4 Million Subscribers in First Loss, Bob Iger Heralds ‘Significant Transformation’ Underway

 

[Cyberpunkd]

The parks are far too crowded these days, mostly because the ticket price is too low to keep folks away. Going back to the "e ticket" type system they used to have is a solution, the genie app and process was just not ironed out yet.

I am a father of two small kids, fast pass you can pay for is a godsend. You should not subject 5-6 year olds to stand 2 hours in a queue for a single ride. As a parent you should be fucking ashamed if you do that.

Visiting Disney is not a right. Yeah, I will gladly pay to skip the line, you can queue if you want.

Cutting 7000 jobs. Wow... here it comes...

Did anyone imagine otherwise? Capitalism baby.

 

[BadBurger]

Well, I missed the news (wasn't much out there, seems to be a forgotten story), but the dissolution of the special tax district was rolled back (more) as most predicted it would be (surrounding residents obviously weren't happy with having their property taxes increased). I guess this is good for Disney? Certainly good for the region around Disney World and something Iger could point to as a win in a way. A small victory in the face of the various losses already listed in the thread.

 

[Jinzo Prime]

Well, I missed the news (wasn't much out there, seems to be a forgotten story), but the dissolution of the special tax district was rolled back (more) as most predicted it would be (surrounding residents obviously weren't happy with having their property taxes increased). I guess this is good for Disney? Certainly good for the region around Disney World and something Iger could point to as a win in a way. A small victory in the face of the various losses already listed in the thread.

Seems to be mutually beneficial to both parties, Disney keeps its tax status, but DeSantis can appoint anyone he want's to the governing body. The point is that companies shouldn't be able to threaten or bully elected governments. We will see if this is enough to keep the Florida government and Disney happy.

 

[Toons]

Disney's gonna end up buying Florida lol

 

[BadBurger]

Seems to be mutually beneficial to both parties, Disney keeps its tax status, but DeSantis can appoint anyone he want's to the governing body. The point is that companies shouldn't be able to threaten or bully elected governments. We will see if this is enough to keep the Florida government and Disney happy.

The government did the bullying, obviously. That's a really weird take to try and paint Disney as the aggressors here, when a legislative government body (the literal power brokers in our society) attempted to punish a private corporation for the having the temerity of voicing an opinion in a democracy.

The change regarding the board doesn't have any tangible effect it seems, it's just a performative act to try and save face: the board members are obligated to run the district competently. So it doesn't matter who gets placed on the board or by whom - if they screw things up, especially maliciously, it's their own asses on the line.

As for both parties being happy: they basically just hit the reset button - everyone was cool with the situation before, so they should therefore be happy now. The local residents are certainly thrilled I'd imagine, as now they won't have to pay thousands of extra dollars in property taxes annually for the next decade or so, all upon the altar of the latest culture war du jour down in Florida. They were basically going to be financially punished for something they had nothing to do with.

To elaborate on what I wrote before, it's probably good for Disney PR wise, but I am guessing they would probably just assume never mention it again. It ultimately changed little, and one of the last things families want to think about when they're planning a trip to the Happiest Place on Earth is stuff like this.

 

[BlackTron]

The government did the bullying, obviously. That's a really weird take to try and paint Disney as the aggressors here, when a legislative government body (the literal power brokers in our society) attempted to punish a private corporation for the having the temerity of voicing an opinion in a democracy.

It's not a good look or a good precedent at all.

Disney isn't just another private corporation, they control a big piece of land with special status, and that's a very big entity to feel is "going after the kids". So the strong pushback is not really surprising either. It's a weird confluence of events that made something that feels uncomfortably un-American happen, to be penalized for a public opinion by the government, and that is really not good. But Chapek should have managed this giant company better too and not imperiled it by stepping in dog shit by getting involved in a controversy about a gender-issue-packed Kindergarten curriculum. It's bad yes, but it's also a message that if you go after our kids the rules don't matter anymore, you get a black eye anyway.

It still sets a dangerous precedent that could have future consequences. The culture war continues to erode at everything, regardless of who wins the individual battles now everyone will lose in the future. If there's some panel of evil villains manipulating everything to get us to fight and create weakness to be exploited, they unlocked the cheat codes. Playing us like fiddles.

Edit: Also this is not only in response to voicing their opinion. Looking at the timeline of events. Disney spoke out about it, but the bill passed anyway. Disney then vowed to help get the bill repealed. At that point they became a rallying political opponent. And because it's about kids, yeah. They massively fucked up and Bob Iger was probably screaming at the stupidity of the hot water they got into.

 

[Irobot82]

It's not a good look or a good precedent at all.

Disney isn't just another private corporation, they control a big piece of land with special status, and that's a very big entity to feel is "going after the kids". So the strong pushback is not really surprising either. It's a weird confluence of events that made something that feels uncomfortably un-American happen, to be penalized for a public opinion by the government, and that is really not good. But Chapek should have managed this giant company better too and not imperiled it by stepping in dog shit by getting involved in a controversy about a gender-issue-packed Kindergarten curriculum. It's bad yes, but it's also a message that if you go after our kids the rules don't matter anymore, you get a black eye anyway.

It still sets a dangerous precedent that could have future consequences. The culture war continues to erode at everything, regardless of who wins the individual battles now everyone will lose in the future. If there's some panel of evil villains manipulating everything to get us to fight and create weakness to be exploited, they unlocked the cheat codes. Playing us like fiddles.

Edit: Also this is not only in response to voicing their opinion. Looking at the timeline of events. Disney spoke out about it, but the bill passed anyway. Disney then vowed to help get the bill repealed. At that point they became a rallying political opponent. And because it's about kids, yeah. They massively fucked up and Bob Iger was probably screaming at the stupidity of the hot water they got into.

It's a little different with Disney too. They were also essentially a quasi-government in themselves with their own land.

 

[BlackTron]

It's a little different with Disney too. They were also essentially a quasi-government in themselves with their own land.

Yes, thanks I did mention this

 

[RoboFu]

I am a father of two small kids, fast pass you can pay for is a godsend. You should not subject 5-6 year olds to stand 2 hours in a queue for a single ride. As a parent you should be fucking ashamed if you do that.

Visiting Disney is not a right. Yeah, I will gladly pay to skip the line, you can queue if you want.

Did anyone imagine otherwise? Capitalism baby.

Lightning lane has improved, still not as good as fast pass was, but it’s been better than the start since Dec. before the change in Dec you were lucky to get three LL a day. But since they changed it that you can only choose the very next opening you can def get 5 or more a day.

It’s still a pretty horrible experience over all though. You have to get up at 5:30 to purchase LL. Then you have the anxiety of having to jump on at 7 to have any chance of getting any virtual queues. Not to mention you have to glued to your phone the whole day.

We are definitely hitting up other theme parks for the next couple of years but if you haven’t been on guardians on the galaxy i strongly urge any of you to go ride that at least. Definitely one of my favorite rides.

 

[GeekyDad]

Seems to be mutually beneficial to both parties, Disney keeps its tax status, but DeSantis can appoint anyone he want's to the governing body. The point is that companies shouldn't be able to threaten or bully elected governments. We will see if this is enough to keep the Florida government and Disney happy.

The government did the bullying, obviously. That's a really weird take to try and paint Disney as the aggressors here, when a legislative government body (the literal power brokers in our society) attempted to punish a private corporation for the having the temerity of voicing an opinion in a democracy.

The change regarding the board doesn't have any tangible effect it seems, it's just a performative act to try and save face: the board members are obligated to run the district competently. So it doesn't matter who gets placed on the board or by whom - if they screw things up, especially maliciously, it's their own asses on the line.

As for both parties being happy: they basically just hit the reset button - everyone was cool with the situation before, so they should therefore be happy now. The local residents are certainly thrilled I'd imagine, as now they won't have to pay thousands of extra dollars in property taxes annually for the next decade or so, all upon the altar of the latest culture war du jour down in Florida. They were basically going to be financially punished for something they had nothing to do with.

To elaborate on what I wrote before, it's probably good for Disney PR wise, but I am guessing they would probably just assume never mention it again. It ultimately changed little, and one of the last things families want to think about when they're planning a trip to the Happiest Place on Earth is stuff like this.

Since when did we start having elections (not referring to entertainment), and since when has the government not been run by private interests/companies?

Now, that would be news.

 

[NickFire]

It's a little different with Disney too. They were also essentially a quasi-government in themselves with their own land.

This 100%. Which is why I see it as Disney was simply removed from office for going against the will of the state's voters. Doesn't matter what side of a coin you are on, or if you have governmental authority, employment authority, or even volunteer level authority. If you are given authority but work against the policy of the entity granting that authority, you will lose that authority.

 

[NeoGiffer]

 

[ipukespiders]

Bye bye Bob.


Hello Bob.

 

[Toons]

This 100%. Which is why I see it as Disney was simply removed from office for going against the will of the state's voters. Doesn't matter what side of a coin you are on, or if you have governmental authority, employment authority, or even volunteer level authority. If you are given authority but work against the policy of the entity granting that authority, you will lose that authority.

The state is the one who gave them that authority in the first place lol

 

[Dural]

It's not a good look or a good precedent at all.

Disney isn't just another private corporation, they control a big piece of land with special status, and that's a very big entity to feel is "going after the kids". So the strong pushback is not really surprising either. It's a weird confluence of events that made something that feels uncomfortably un-American happen, to be penalized for a public opinion by the government, and that is really not good. But Chapek should have managed this giant company better too and not imperiled it by stepping in dog shit by getting involved in a controversy about a gender-issue-packed Kindergarten curriculum. It's bad yes, but it's also a message that if you go after our kids the rules don't matter anymore, you get a black eye anyway.

It still sets a dangerous precedent that could have future consequences. The culture war continues to erode at everything, regardless of who wins the individual battles now everyone will lose in the future. If there's some panel of evil villains manipulating everything to get us to fight and create weakness to be exploited, they unlocked the cheat codes. Playing us like fiddles.

Edit: Also this is not only in response to voicing their opinion. Looking at the timeline of events. Disney spoke out about it, but the bill passed anyway. Disney then vowed to help get the bill repealed. At that point they became a rallying political opponent. And because it's about kids, yeah. They massively fucked up and Bob Iger was probably screaming at the stupidity of the hot water they got into.

But it was Chapek that originally said he didn't want to get into politics as nobody wins. He had a "change of heart", coming from the board and Iger. All the issues Disney has had recently all come from the board and Iger, Nelson Peltz knew this and is why he was trying to get on the board. I don't love Chapek, and do blame him for the horrible policies they've added at the parks, but he wasn't the problem for the overall company. He's the scapegoat when the stupid direction they took came crashing down.

 

[BlackTron]

But it was Chapek that originally said he didn't want to get into politics as nobody wins. He had a "change of heart", coming from the board and Iger. All the issues Disney has had recently all come from the board and Iger, Nelson Peltz knew this and is why he was trying to get on the board. I don't love Chapek, and do blame him for the horrible policies they've added at the parks, but he wasn't the problem for the overall company. He's the scapegoat when the stupid direction they took came crashing down.

Oof. The situation did indeed make Chapek look bad but perhaps too much of the blame is directed at him in that case.

 

[BadBurger]

Edit: Also this is not only in response to voicing their opinion. Looking at the timeline of events. Disney spoke out about it, but the bill passed anyway. Disney then vowed to help get the bill repealed. At that point they became a rallying political opponent. And because it's about kids, yeah. They massively fucked up and Bob Iger was probably screaming at the stupidity of the hot water they got into.

Yea, this is a democracy. People speak out against things they disagree with. In a democracy, people actively work against that which they disbelieve in. I mean, it's 2023, this has been a thing in modern society since the 1940's. Why is it something new to some people?

Imagine if you had rights taken away from you just because you disagreed with those currently in power. This is horrifying but it is taking place in Florida right now.

 

[diffusionx]

The government did the bullying, obviously. That's a really weird take to try and paint Disney as the aggressors here, when a legislative government body (the literal power brokers in our society) attempted to punish a private corporation for the having the temerity of voicing an opinion in a democracy.

Despite what Mitt Romney and (for some reason) prominent liberals claim, corporations are not people and do not have opinions. They are just a bit of government fiction, an accounting trick to simplify commerce and make it easier. It is literally impossible for a corporation to "voice an opinion" and obviously whatever policies or proclamations that emanate from it do not have the best interests of any citizens in mind, but what "it" needs to perpetuate itself. It's a disaster. Corporations do not exist to hold untold power and swing it around wildly, yet that is what they do these days. The amount of power they claim to hold and exercise is absolutely outrageous these days and has to be reined in. Companies like Disney, Google, Apple, Facebook, etc. are absolutely out of control.

 

[DeafTourette]

Despite what Mitt Romney and (for some reason) prominent liberals claim, corporations are not people and do not have opinions. They are just a bit of government fiction, an accounting trick to simplify commerce and make it easier. It is literally impossible for a corporation to "voice an opinion" and obviously whatever policies emanate from it do not have the best interests of any citizens in mind, but what "it" needs to perpetuate itself. It's a disaster. Corporations do not exist to hold untold power and swing it around wildly, yet that is what they do these days. The amount of power they claim to hold and exercise is absolutely outrageous these days and has to be reined in. Companies like Disney, Google, Apple, Facebook, etc. are absolutely out of control.

Not to mention that they were given "personhood" so they could give to both political parties without consequence.

 

[belmarduk]

Disney's gonna end up buying Florida lol

I really hope so.

 

[NeoGiffer]

Disney's gonna end up buying Florida lol