A one shot red check town cop, a one shot role pm stealer neutral, and a scum vanilla cop. I like dragging cabots name through the mud as much as the next chap but it's less farcical when put into context.
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BREXIT MAFIA | Pro-Having Our Lynch And Pro-Eating It
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That's fair. It's good to keep the assumptions you are making in mind so you can reassess every so often and make sure you aren't blundering the game because of them.
I think looking for just a single scum versus a pair of scum does differ pretty significantly though, as obviously a team of one can't collude and scheme.
Confused at the refusal of the neutral to come forward. Definitely poor play.
I think looking for just a single scum versus a pair of scum does differ pretty significantly though, as obviously a team of one can't collude and scheme.
Confused at the refusal of the neutral to come forward. Definitely poor play.
Idk if he's neutral but he's definitely been posting some wack shit today.
Spoiled Milk
Banned
Theoretically I want the neutral to come out because it's better for everyone but (and this is meta) I really don't like that all they have to do is claim they're survivor and they get to skate through to the end of the game! Their partner is dead so the role's been verified and no one would in their right mind pose as the other neutral. Seems a little bit broken, Cabot 
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I remember thinking Poltergust is scummy but I don't know if I have any reasons for this or it's just been incepted over the whole game. Can we at least review?
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I remember thinking Poltergust is scummy but I don't know if I have any reasons for this or it's just been incepted over the whole game. Can we at least review?
Poltergust
Member
Theoretically I want the neutral to come out because it's better for everyone but (and this is meta) I really don't like that all they have to do is claim they're survivor and they get to skate through to the end of the game! Their partner is dead so the role's been verified and no one would in their right mind pose as the other neutral. Seems a little bit broken, Cabot
No, I don't think it's necessarily the case that they're guaranteed to make it to the end. Sure, we won't be lynching them, but the threat of a night kill does exist. Even if someone's a neutral, they are still a known factor that makes us less likely to mislynch, so I can see scum prioritizing killing the neutral over someone like, say, Fireblend, whose alignment and role we still don't know about.
The more unknowns that remain in the game, the more likely scum can survive.
Spoiled Milk
Banned
Vote: Poltergust
Scum wins when town is dead. Neutral reveal lets scum avoid needless night-kill.
Scum wins when town is dead. Neutral reveal lets scum avoid needless night-kill.
Poltergust
Member
No, scum wins when they reach 50% of the total vote, as shown by Gorlak's and Kalor's PMs. That includes themselves, townspeople, and neutrals.
So night killing a neutral will still bring them towards that goal.
That's only L-1 if I'm not mistaken. Believe it or not it's actually okay to put people one off hammer. In fact other strong mafia communities typically hammer to end the day and hardly ever have a plurality lynch. We could look to learn.
Spoiled doesn't need to unvote but anyone planning on hammer should declare intent to do so and let it sit for a while for any final thoughts from everyone.
Spoiled doesn't need to unvote but anyone planning on hammer should declare intent to do so and let it sit for a while for any final thoughts from everyone.
I pretty much shared my thoughts on everyone at the start of this phase and don't see my thoughts changing much before the end of the day.
I still think Polter, Zee and Splinter are the likeliest to be scum. I think Ouro is good enough that he could be scum despite me mostly agreeing with him on most things and I really don't think I can read him someone please do it for me.
Spoiled, BSB, Kawl and Flame I relatively trust to be town, but surely there are scenarios where they bussed their teammates to get that read (with various degrees of success). If I had to rate them it'd be the same order I listed them from scummiest to not.
That's pretty much where I'm at. I've been pretty transparent with my reads this whole game and this phase so I don't see a point to delaying my reads. I do think it's a good idea for everyone to share them if they haven't already.
I still think Polter, Zee and Splinter are the likeliest to be scum. I think Ouro is good enough that he could be scum despite me mostly agreeing with him on most things and I really don't think I can read him someone please do it for me.
Spoiled, BSB, Kawl and Flame I relatively trust to be town, but surely there are scenarios where they bussed their teammates to get that read (with various degrees of success). If I had to rate them it'd be the same order I listed them from scummiest to not.
That's pretty much where I'm at. I've been pretty transparent with my reads this whole game and this phase so I don't see a point to delaying my reads. I do think it's a good idea for everyone to share them if they haven't already.
Vote: Spoiled Milk
Even if claiming neutral paints you as just as much of a target as town because the scum could still benefit from your death, it saves your from a mislynch so long as no one counterclaims, which they won't because that's insane and would cause them to die on the next round once your role was flipped.
Even if claiming neutral paints you as just as much of a target as town because the scum could still benefit from your death, it saves your from a mislynch so long as no one counterclaims, which they won't because that's insane and would cause them to die on the next round once your role was flipped.
I mean if he's scum he's just gonna claim something
Sure, and they'll probably still die. But perhaps, if they're town, they have a PR and can share like some watching/tracking results before dying. If town then Poltergust will still win if/when we win and has literally no reason not to say something. If scum and they say a bunch of fake stuff, then they're going to die regardless so what possible harm is there?
Poltergust
Member
Eh, might as well now.
Yeah, there's nothing new I can tell you guys. I'm just a vanilla townie.
Hopefully I can get a PR next time around. It's far more interesting than doing nothing during the night phase, at least.
Yeah, there's nothing new I can tell you guys. I'm just a vanilla townie.
Hopefully I can get a PR next time around. It's far more interesting than doing nothing during the night phase, at least.
Poltergust
Member
If I do get lynched today, you guys better not snatch defeat from the jaws of victory lol.
YesNOnoNOYes
Member
DAY 6 CURRENT VOTE TALLY:
Poltergust (4)
Ourobolus 1583
Fireblend 1584
backslashbunny 1682
Spoiled Milk 1723
Spoiled Milk (1)
zeemumu 1732
No active vote for Day 6: *Splinter, Flame_AC, Kawl_USC, Poltergust
Day 6 Postcount: *Splinter 7, backslashbunny 14, Fireblend 34, Flame_AC 21, Kawl_USC 7, Ourobolus 28, Poltergust 15, Spoiled Milk 7, zeemumu 25
Day 6 ends:
Automated vote tally here
5 votes for majority
Poltergust (4)
Ourobolus 1583
Fireblend 1584
backslashbunny 1682
Spoiled Milk 1723
Spoiled Milk (1)
zeemumu 1732
No active vote for Day 6: *Splinter, Flame_AC, Kawl_USC, Poltergust
Day 6 Postcount: *Splinter 7, backslashbunny 14, Fireblend 34, Flame_AC 21, Kawl_USC 7, Ourobolus 28, Poltergust 15, Spoiled Milk 7, zeemumu 25
Day 6 ends:
Automated vote tally here
5 votes for majority
So, mass claim? At the moment I intend to vote for either Zeemumu or Splinter, but I haven't really given the game much thought after the last day phase.
Interesting NK though. Someone on Flame_AC's votes column from the thunderdome. I still think that's where the remaining scum is tho.
Interesting NK though. Someone on Flame_AC's votes column from the thunderdome. I still think that's where the remaining scum is tho.
Crab protected himself on the no kill night
I mean we are assuming that, since he never specifically said so, hence why I'm asking for diligence's sake
What? Crab protecting himself is the most likely scenario, but the chance exists that you also/or blocked scum.
Since you're already claiming roleblocker, I don't see why it's an issue.
and then splinter claims he blocked me and this all backfires and we lynch me and oops
Sigh, fine.
Yes, I agree if you are telling the truth, which would clear both you and zee.
which leaves
Kawl
Fire
Flame
Ouro
Milk
as the remaining potential scum.
I claimed Miller
Flame claimed Vanilla
and Fire, Milk, and Kawl have not claimed.
Do you get confirmation that your block was successful *Splinter?
Who did you target the other nights?
I'm gonna cautiously trust Splinter for now because if he was scum he could get refuted by Zee if he has some role that went through tonight, but then again scum did have a vanilla cop so he could've known Zee didn't have one beforehand.
Do you guys want me to claim now, or do you want the others to chime in first? I don't think the order is that important but eh.
Who did you target the other nights?
I'm gonna cautiously trust Splinter for now because if he was scum he could get refuted by Zee if he has some role that went through tonight, but then again scum did have a vanilla cop so he could've known Zee didn't have one beforehand.
Do you guys want me to claim now, or do you want the others to chime in first? I don't think the order is that important but eh.
Thinking about it a bit more, roleclaiming blocker is a bit risky for scum, no? because they basically have to clear a townie on top of killing one every night until they win. Unless they kill their claimed targets every night, which is gonna look suspicious.
Plus if Splinter now claims to only have blocked dead townies in the previous nights that's gonna look at least a bit suspicious too.
Plus if Splinter now claims to only have blocked dead townies in the previous nights that's gonna look at least a bit suspicious too.
I'm still operating on the "1 scum" theory. If it's wrong, then...whoops.
Roleblocker would be a weird thing to claim if they have to keep it up. But before I ask Splinter my next question I wanna hear the others chime in.
For a second I thought you meant you muted me on here, ahaha
BSB no! You were my best GAF friend!
Well I'm vanilla so he shouldn't have had a successful block and could be telling the truth.
Well I'm vanilla so he shouldn't have had a successful block and could be telling the truth.
Maybe I did zeemumu
Maybe I did.
Also I just realised I've been mis-capitalizing your name this whole time. Apologies.
Spoiled Milk
Banned
I'm vanilla. Michael Gove was to get scum to erroneously target me on day 1.
Vote: Ourobolus
You've been steering us from the beginning and you're extremely defensive when people target you. Also fuck your miller claim.
Vote: Ourobolus
You've been steering us from the beginning and you're extremely defensive when people target you. Also fuck your miller claim.
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