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[GhaleonEB]

The Brute chopper is just badass. It looks wicked and it looks Like something a Brute would drive. It was also originally made out of farm vehicles. An engineer made it for the humans out of farm vehicles. The Brutes were like hell naw we're taking that and using it. They mounted the canons on it and bam Brute Chopper. Again books were really good at covering it.

And beyond that, the Chopper was not a sign that Bungie was struggling creatively. It's a unique vehicle with a deep skill curve and is hugely fun to use. Huge parts of missions were built around its implementation.

The Revenant was a sign Bungie was struggling creatively.

 

[ElRenoRaven]

I agree. When ODST came out I thought it was the best campaign Halo Bungie had put out. Reach may have topped it in my mind, but when ODST came out I thought very highly of it. Not to mention it introduced us to Firefight.

I can explain that easily. There are two big reasons. Those are that it does not have Master Chief. At the time this was unheard of. Hell even Halo Wars had Spartans. Then it wasn't your intergalactic romp through the universe that the main series is. Those two reasons alone are the huge causes of hate. The game was freaking amazing and I feel it and Halo 2 work so perfectly with each other that anyone who passes it up really is damn stupid.

I was just talking singleplayer there. Multiplayer sure was Halo 3's but it brought us a mode I always wished Halo had which is Firefight. This mode is without a doubt awesome fun. Who didn't always wish for a mode where it was you against wave after wave of covies? I could play firefight all the damn time the way ODST had it. Halo: Reach I wish had a more classic setting for it but even Halo: Reach's firefight is damn fun.

And beyond that, the Chopper was not a sign that Bungie was struggling creatively. It's a unique vehicle with a deep skill curve and is hugely fun to use. Huge parts of missions were built around its implementation.

The Revenant was a sign Bungie was struggling creatively.

Nah. I liked the Revenant. It was the Spectre in Halo 2 that I didn't like. That was a vehicle that sucked. I felt the Revenant was an improvement over that a lot. If anything it felt more like a Covenant Warthog then the Spectre did.

 

[ncsuDuncan]

I think we're all forgetting the best vehicle in Halo 3, the one that Bungie decided was just too good to bring into Reach.

The Prowler.

Just kidding. I actually like the Revenant, it's my favorite vehicle to use in Reach. I can probably do more damage with a Scorpion or Banshee, but the Revenant is the most fun for me to just cruise around in and rack up kills. The only bad thing about it is the Forge World geometry glitch and the headshot bug.

I do miss the Chopper though. It was such a unique vehicle, in terms of how it controlled. On the ground you have wheeled vehicles like the Warthog and Mongoose, hovering vehicles like the Ghost and the Wraith, and the Chopper somewhere in the middle with a fun combination of the two.

Not to mention the splatter capabilities. I'd be happy to have a Chopper in Reach even if the Brute Shot was removed, I absolutely loved ramming into Warthogs with the booster; it was the vehicular equivalent of Armor Lock. With the increase in collision damage to Reach's eggshell vehicles you'd be crazy to try ramming another driver.

 

[The Lamonster]

The Revenant is stupid because it's much more powerful than the Wraith...

 

[The Librarian]

The Revenant is stupid because it's much more powerful than the Wraith...

...No it's not.

 

[Sibylus]

The Revenant was fun, but at times it definitely felt like half a Wraith painted pink. The Chopper was a better "midrange strength" Covenant vehicle in comparison. Hell of a lot of fun tearing through enemy vehicles with it. Do the same with the Revenant and it just kinda flips over awkwardly and plays the sad Price is Right jingle in a puddle.

 

[Ramirez]

The Revenant is stupid because it's much more powerful than the Wraith...

lol wat

The Wraith is just under the Banshee/Scorpion in effectiveness.

 

[Striker]

They tried creating an new Covenant transport vehicle as they did with the Spectre and Prowler previously. I don't hate the Revenant, nor do I love it. Didn't love the Chopper, either. A Covenant vehicle that can transport people but also be a viable vehicle in the battlefield is fine with me. Maybe Halo 4 can do that depending who MC and Cortana encounter.

 

[JdFoX187]

They tried creating an new Covenant transport vehicle as they did with the Spectre and Prowler previously. I don't hate the Revenant, nor do I love it. Didn't love the Chopper, either. A Covenant vehicle that can transport people but also be a viable vehicle in the battlefield is fine with me. Maybe Halo 4 can do that depending who MC and Cortana encounter.

The problem is always making the weapon piss fucking weak. The Spectre and Prowler were merely reskins of each other. At least they tried to do something different with the Revenant, even though it still has a weak and extremely inconsistent blast. But it's still a miniature Wraith, for all intents and purposes. Chopper was just an all around piece of shit that didn't need to come back.

 

[ncsuDuncan]

The problem is always making the weapon piss fucking weak. The Spectre and Prowler were merely reskins of each other. At least they tried to do something different with the Revenant, even though it still has a weak and extremely inconsistent blast. But it's still a miniature Wraith, for all intents and purposes. Chopper was just an all around piece of shit that didn't need to come back.

Yes, the Spectre and Prowler were basically just ineffective Warthog replacements. They needed to be more deadly and more unique.

The Revenant's blast is actually quite useful, especially if you have a passenger with a DMR to grab headshots. A two-man team in a Revenant can get a lot of infantry kills, and is also one of the best ways to transport a flag.

I'd be okay if they fixed the Revenant headshot bug for snipers only, leaving it in for DMRs.