Trogdor1123
Member
I’m the same as everyone else, I don’t get it. It will just push people towards more single player type games. I think. Maybe we will see a renaissance in couch coop and mp? Probably not
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Cheating on the PC has gotten completely out of control
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S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Console pvp>PC pvp
GladiusFrog
Member
That's my observation as well, have been encountering cheaters in Sea of Thieves at least a few times a week with my wife. Sometimes is subtle And other times the cheater's literally show off their abilities like god mode.
I miss early 2000's PC gaming, Cheaters existed but it was much less common... Now it seems be popular and on the rise. Hell even big streamers do it.
Unfortunately I don't think there is anything that can be done about them. And many players understand this when playing multiplayer These days. Its just the way it is.
I miss early 2000's PC gaming, Cheaters existed but it was much less common... Now it seems be popular and on the rise. Hell even big streamers do it.
Unfortunately I don't think there is anything that can be done about them. And many players understand this when playing multiplayer These days. Its just the way it is.
SenkiDala
Member
It's easy to get, it is human nature, people like to win, so if they can't win by their skills, they try to win by cheating. It doesn't happen only in video games.
But yeah it sucks. That's why couch coop is online coop with just friends (good old times with Gears of War) are king.
HeisenbergFX4
Member
As long as people have competed against each other someone has tried cheating in literally everything
R6Rider
Gold Member
Gotta keep it quiet man. Can't risk anymore people switching to console online games and then buying XIM and Cronus because they're trash at the game.
Shin-Ra
Junior Member
Hmmm. I wonder if it’s because they didn’t just ban unlicensed cheating devices but also banned unlicensed non-cheating regular controllers.No it's not. Xbox blocked unlicensed accessories last November. But of course the reaction was quite different.
Rumor - Report: Xbox will start banning unlicensed third party (wireless) controllers in November
https://insider-gaming.com/xbox-ban-third-party-wireless-controller/ In the last few days, some Xbox gamers have been taking to social circles the world over to discuss concerns with third-party wireless controllers. Put simply, they’re being banned from using them after a two-week window...www.neogaf.com
FalsettoVibe
Member
Spyxos
Member
Much of the talk about Riot's new shooter, Valorant, has been about the anti-cheat software packaged with it, called Vanguard. The name is appropriate, because Vanguard doesn't just sniff around for cheats when Valorant is running: It starts up with Windows and keeps an eye on other processes whether or not you're playing Valorant at the time.
It was very badly received by the community.
hououinkyouma00
Member
Don't. Cheaters ruined any sort of desire I had to ever play that game.
Kagoshima_Luke
Gold Member
A lot of classic multiplayer games are dead to me on PC due to cheaters.
DaleinCalgary
Member
That is the nature of PC gaming. Piracy and hacks and mods. Always has been and always will be.
Always has been and always will be.
Hibs
Member
I didn't know that. I'd take that though if meant no cheaters.
ChoosableOne
ChoosableAll
Same goes for me, on Pc.
Hoddi
Member
I don't really have specific ones. I'll usually spend a couple of months playing one game before moving onto another which can be anything from COD and BF to F2P games like Fortnite and Rocket League. I also occasionally go back to older games like TF2 and Day of Defeat.
I obviously don't play competitively which may also be a factor. But cheaters have never been anything more than an occasional annoyance in my experience.
Utamaru1706
Neo Member
lol, my friends were constantly complaining when they played Valorant or The Finals, because they often met with cheaters, especially the ones from Chinese, where these guys weren't even shy in doing it (e.g using wall hacks, aim bot, or even something as blatant like killing everyone on the map from miles away).
I myself had met with cheaters when playing Gundam Battle Operation 2, which of course also comes from China, and they literally ruined that game to the ground, to the point that Bamco needs to alter some features for the PC version, since those cheaters were abusing it to get loads of premium currencies.
I myself had met with cheaters when playing Gundam Battle Operation 2, which of course also comes from China, and they literally ruined that game to the ground, to the point that Bamco needs to alter some features for the PC version, since those cheaters were abusing it to get loads of premium currencies.
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
I am convinced this is why there is such a big push for extraction shooters right now. No direct competition, just your team vs the game and suddenly all cheating does is make it boring for the people cheating. No hassle of trying to stop it, no angry people matched with cheaters, no angry people getting false bans, etc.
Mortisfacio
Member
While PC is my #1 platform, I stopped playing Rust because of cheaters. One of my favorite online games of the last decade, but after spending so much time building up our fortress with my friends for some people to wall hack through and delete our base... I just can't keep doing it.
Phase
Member
Yeah that's pretty much what put the nail the coffin for me playing MP. I was always near the top of the leaderboards in every fps I played and I consider myself pretty good at discerning legit players vs cheaters. It just became worse and worse every year to where I stopped playing them completely a couple of years ago.
It's sad that so many feel they have to cheat. It's also far too easy to do nowadays. I have noticed it isn't as bad when a game leaves the spotlight and has a smaller playerbase. That said, companies really need to try harder to deter cheaters. Severe penalties should always be put in place, though in F2P that's almost null.
It's sad that so many feel they have to cheat. It's also far too easy to do nowadays. I have noticed it isn't as bad when a game leaves the spotlight and has a smaller playerbase. That said, companies really need to try harder to deter cheaters. Severe penalties should always be put in place, though in F2P that's almost null.
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Schmendrick
Member
Competitive FPS on PC are pretty much pointless thanks to the rampant cheating. Doesn't really matter which game, you will regularly run into obvious cheaters, and for every one of those there's probably a dozen that at least try to hide it.
TwiztidElf
Gold Member
Yeah. On PC.
I play on PS5, but I live in a lower population place, so in order to get matches I have to leave cross play on.
I'm not going to link to places to get the cheats, but the auto-counter Drive Impact is the one that really aggravates me. It's really obvious when it happens repeatedly.
panda-zebra
Member
Only game I've played that was badly affected by cheating was Outriders. Yes, I'm one of the few that enjoyed the game. PC tools allowed people to modify not only their own stats/weapons but those of others in the lobby, too - permanently screwing over another player's character and prized weapon rolls if they so wished, or maxing everything out and leaving them with nothing to aim for in playing. That's when I quit after seeing some of the damage done.
In the Helldivers 2 thread someone linked a reddit post where a player saw an unusual/never before seen event while on a mission (won't say what for spoiler reasons). Reading more it wasn't the devs using their God powers to affect the game in interesting ways as some first thought (they can/plan to do this kind of overseer stuff to spice up games on the fly), it was just a cheater in the squad using software that allows an *unreleased* stratagem to be called in - something that isn't even in the game yet normally. Looked into it further and it's of course part of a tool that gives all kinds of infinite health, infinite mission time, infinite stims, no reloads, infinite ammo etc. and the cheat tool devs are already in a game of cat & mouse with the game devs. FFS, I thought the fuss made over the kernel-level anti-cheat before launch at least meant this crap wouldn't happen, but now assume it's just something that has to be accepted in another non-competitive co-op game I enjoy.
In the Helldivers 2 thread someone linked a reddit post where a player saw an unusual/never before seen event while on a mission (won't say what for spoiler reasons). Reading more it wasn't the devs using their God powers to affect the game in interesting ways as some first thought (they can/plan to do this kind of overseer stuff to spice up games on the fly), it was just a cheater in the squad using software that allows an *unreleased* stratagem to be called in - something that isn't even in the game yet normally. Looked into it further and it's of course part of a tool that gives all kinds of infinite health, infinite mission time, infinite stims, no reloads, infinite ammo etc. and the cheat tool devs are already in a game of cat & mouse with the game devs. FFS, I thought the fuss made over the kernel-level anti-cheat before launch at least meant this crap wouldn't happen, but now assume it's just something that has to be accepted in another non-competitive co-op game I enjoy.
Hawking Radiation
Member
Senua
Gold Member
So creepy how they want to give her the tween vibe. It's bloomin crazy I tells ya.This ^^
In some multiplayer games I feel like this little white girl
Games of Today
Member
Play on the BoB community servers. I haven't seen a cheater in a few weeks.
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
Why wouldn't/wont the monitor work with a console? It doesn't have any access to the hardware, it is just doing image processing of the images the monitor receives and basically unblockable.
Diseased Yak
Gold Member
Aww man, I read this whole thread being thankful that no one was mentioning Helldivers 2 yet. How were they cheating?
I was hoping their anti-cheat required install would hold it back...
Spyxos
Member
He had absolutly no cooldown for anything. So he was spamming bombs like a maniac.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Community servers suck ass because the admins can’t loose. You shoot him 5 times and you get banned.
Edgelord79
Gold Member
The last multiplayer game I played was The Division and it was pretty bad with cheaters. I can’t imagine what games like Battlefield are like.
R6Rider
Gold Member
Reminds me of the BF4 servers where you would be banned if you shot down the admin as he chopper whores the entire match.
I could be mistaken but I'm sure when it was first posted here it was stated it was only working with PCs for now. I'm sure eventually it will work with consoles.
CuteFaceJay
Member
Use to play so much battlefield back in the day now i'm exclusively playing driving games or Diablo.
CuteFaceJay
Member
Johnny Concrete
Member
This could actually be a glitch in the game. I've seen video's from people who had no cooldown on sentries as well.
ozz ex machina
Member
As someone who plays pretty much exclusively Tarkov and CS2 I know the true pain of hackers. But these are still the best multiplayer games on the market even with the odd hacker.
The idea of going to console for PvP is just laughable to me at this point. I used to compete on console back in the day but controller input is just so absolutely pointless when it comes to satisfying pvp.
The idea of going to console for PvP is just laughable to me at this point. I used to compete on console back in the day but controller input is just so absolutely pointless when it comes to satisfying pvp.
thief183
Member
It is very invasive, but it is a solution, not sure if I would accept it... Are there cheaters in the game?
Spyxos
Member
When I played it, I didn't notice anything, but I didn't play it too much either.
Seems like it.
Toots
Gold Member
You're right, especially about doing extremely cool hacker shit between 12 and the time one gets their first real girlfriend (strangely).
The added problem is that nowdays you can build a really successfull career upon cheating if not caught, so the incentive are greater than just doing cool stuff and having fun.
Plus society as a whole have a huge problem of style over substance so no one really cares you are cheating as long as you appear successfull. Just look at any prominent western politician.
