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[tmlDan]

PC gaming LOL

its so good

 

[Von Hugh]

PC gaming LOL

its so good

*NVIDIA and Intel gaming for the last 12 months

 

[CompleteGlobalSaturation]

These guys are genuinely awesome.

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

 

[Bojji]

PC gaming LOL

its so good

It's better than console gaming for sure. No one forced anyone to wait for 5xxx series when writing was on the wall that it won't deliver.

 

[dgrdsv]

0.5% is a crazy high rate of error at this scale.

Not really considering that this is the launch shipments which aren't big.
Nvidia already said that they'll replace the cards for anyone affected.

 

[Horseganador]

 

[Darkkahn]

It's better than console gaming for sure. No one forced anyone to wait for 5xxx series when writing was on the wall that it won't deliver.

I thought it was safe to upgrade now?

 

[Bojji]

I thought it was safe to upgrade now?

Months ago, looking at specs we already knew that upgrade won't be big, price was the biggest mystery but most of the rumors pointed to very high prices.

MSRP ended up being not that bad, but MSRP means nothing in real life...

Now, power connector issues and things like missing rops are something no one (or at least most people) expected. Nvidia rushed this launch for whatever reason.

 

[hinch7]

Nvidia..

Dumbed specs, hugely overpriced (not sticker price) now borked GPU's.

If AMD has a time to release something worthwhile, its now.

 

[Zathalus]

PC gaming LOL

its so good

Yet, despite all the issues, a lot of people prefer it to console gaming. Because of all the obvious reasons that have been reiterated here ad nauseam.

 

[DavJay]

The 4090 is actually amazing now with hindsight.

 

[GHG]

Steve is about to tear nvidia a new one.

 

[LavitzSlambert]

This is comical and what monopolies look like.
Nvidia has such massive dominance that it doesn't have any f*ks left to give.
More and more we are living in a time where wealthy and powerful entities just don't suffer any significant repercussions for being shitty.

Only because consumers refuse to take action, they just bend over because they have zero willpower.

People who decided to stick with their 4000 series are looking better and better.

Those who sold their 4000 series in anticipation of 5000 are looking more and more stupid.

Hopefully this will force some of you FOMO/scalper enabling mutherfuckers to wait for reviews and steady supply.

History shows they will learn nothing.

Like I said the other day.

Being a PC-only or first gamer means that QA is your responsibility on every piece of the experience.

Even buying the top part doesn't earn you a reprieve from this fact. Last year we had the i9 debacle too.

Between performance issues, sky high prices, and the state of hardware defects, PC gaming is in a horrible place. Imagine needing to deal with this shit after you just paid $2000.

Console gamers laughing it up at PCMR right now.

 

[Bojji]

Only because consumers refuse to take action, they just bend over because they have zero willpower.



History shows they will learn nothing.



Between performance issues, sky high prices, and the state of hardware defects, PC gaming is in a horrible place. Imagine needing to deal with this shit after you just paid $2000.

Console gamers laughing it up at PCMR right now.

One Nvidia launch and you say all pc gaming is like this? Few months ago it was very possible to build pc stronger than PS5 pro (with 4070 and 5600) for 900+ Euros (vs 800 Euro for Pro).

This shit is almost exclusive to Blackwell, prices were much more normal and pretty much MSRP when 4xxx was still in stock - for YEARS.

 

[LavitzSlambert]

One Nvidia launch and you say all pc gaming is like this? Few months ago it was very possible to build pc stronger than PS5 pro (with 4070 and 5600) for 900+ Euros (vs 800 Euro for Pro).

This shit is almost exclusive to Blackwell, prices were much more normal and pretty much MSRP when 4xxx was still in stock - for YEARS.

One Nvidia launch? It has been a downward spiral since the RTX cards began. There was nothing normal about 4000 series extortion pricing and card tier rung lowering, or MSRP cards years after launch. It's not just Nvidia either - look at Intel's CPU defects on 13th gen forward.

Your "stronger than PS5 Pro" PC build not only costs more but is a worse experience to boot when you consider the awful quality of PC ports. But some people seem to enjoy paying top dollar for stutter.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

Only because consumers refuse to take action, they just bend over because they have zero willpower.



History shows they will learn nothing.



Between performance issues, sky high prices, and the state of hardware defects, PC gaming is in a horrible place. Imagine needing to deal with this shit after you just paid $2000.

Console gamers laughing it up at PCMR right now.

I honestly hope those who paid scalper prices get royally fucked with a melting cable and/or whatever damaged ROPs. That's the only way they might....just might...exercise a little self control and let things play out.

Blackwell is already nvidias worst generation in a long while.

Virtually no efficiency improvements...just better performance for more power.

 

[Bojji]

One Nvidia launch? It has been a downward spiral since the RTX cards began. There was nothing normal about 4000 series extortion pricing and card tier rung lowering, or MSRP cards years after launch. It's not just Nvidia either - look at Intel's CPU defects on 13th gen forward.

Your "stronger than PS5 Pro" PC build not only costs more but is a worse experience to boot when you consider the awful quality of PC ports. But some people seem to enjoy paying top dollar for stutter.

PC like that would give you better experience in 90% of games compared to Pro. You have SOME bad ports on PC and some fucked up Pro versions of games as well, bad ports are not exclusive to PC.

Prices of 4xxx series were very high in 2022 but then in 2024 some models got corrected in performance/vram/price. You can say that consoles are fucked too because PS5 Pro is double the price of PS5 DE and PS4 Pro outside of US.

 

[P:axMagellanic]

I honestly hope those who paid scalper prices get royally fucked with a melting cable and/or whatever damaged ROPs. That's the only way they might....just might...exercise a little self control and let things play out.

Blackwell is already nvidias worst generation in a long while.

Virtually no efficiency improvements...just better performance for more power.

Yeah, this is funny as fuck.

I hope they sit in their cuck chairs staring longingly at the soldering embers of their PCs.

 

[LavitzSlambert]

PC like that would give you better experience in 90% of games compared to Pro. You have SOME bad ports on PC and some fucked up Pro versions of games as well, bad ports are not exclusive to PC.

Prices of 4xxx series were very high in 2022 but then in 2024 some models got corrected in performance/vram/price. You can say that consoles are fucked too because PS5 Pro is double the price of PS5 DE and PS4 Pro outside of US.

Never said they were exclusive to PC, but bad ports are certainly more common on PC - especially amongst the games people actually play. Look at Sony's ports, hell look at most Japanese game ports as straight up inferior. And even when the PC ports are good, is the improvement enough to justify the extreme increase in cost? Very few PC games blow consoles out of the water, and diminishing returns kicks in hard beyond 60fps, just like it does at 1440p and above. You can check the PC spec requirements and benchmarks and you'll find you are paying a lot more for an unoptimized port most of the time.

I completely agree the PS5 Pro price is high, especially outside of the US (I'd argue within too). 799 euros includes VAT, it's more like 665 euros which is equivalent to $700. Even then, still a better experience, and a better value than where the PC industry is for gaming today.

 

[Bojji]

Never said they were exclusive to PC, but bad ports are certainly more common on PC - especially amongst the games people actually play. Look at Sony's ports, hell look at most Japanese game ports as straight up inferior. And even when the PC ports are good, is the improvement enough to justify the extreme increase in cost? Very few PC games blow consoles out of the water, and diminishing returns kicks in hard beyond 60fps, just like it does at 1440p and above. You can check the PC spec requirements and benchmarks and you'll find you are paying a lot more for an unoptimized port most of the time.

I completely agree the PS5 Pro price is high, especially outside of the US (I'd argue within too). 799 euros includes VAT, it's more like 665 euros which is equivalent to $700. Even then, still a better experience, and a better value than where the PC industry is for gaming today.

RIGHT NOW Pro might be better value because it's available vs. not available PC parts. But this situation is exclusive to 2025 because it was much different last year. Few months from now and after AMD launch everything will improve (both prices and availability).

Rest of your post are mostly onions and I disagree with most of them.

 

[The_Observer]

PC master race winning again. But like always, they will explain that this is almost a non-existining issue and besides this, pc gaming is perfect all the time and will continue harassing console gamers to go pc. What a joke

 

[RoboFu]

Wow that's some real shady shit.

 

[Xellos]

Nvidia could have just rebadged 4000 series with new FE cooler + $100 price cuts and this would have all gone a lot better. What a disaster of a launch.

 

[G-DannY]

even 5080 it seems

 

[Celcius]

The whole 50 series lineup is a dumpster fire
I'd be waiting for the Super refresh if I were upgrading this gen

 

[asdasdasdbb]

Now, power connector issues and things like missing rops are something no one (or at least most people) expected. Nvidia rushed this launch for whatever reason.

And yet I still get the impression that the 5080 and 5090 were intended to be released back in September.

 

[Bojji]

And yet I still get the impression that the 5080 and 5090 were intended to be released back in September.

There was some talk about manufacturing problems so this is probably why we see shit like this:

Blackwell GPU flaw '100% Nvidia's fault,' says CEO Jensen Huang: report

Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang has finally addressed the design flaw that pushed back production of its next-generation GPUs, laying the blame as “100% Nvidia's fault.”

www.capacitymedia.com

They probably wanted to launch last year in initial plans.

 

[Physiognomonics]

Class action lawsuit coming in 1, 2...

 

[riko]

Class action lawsuit coming in 1, 2...

Eh, as long as they handle RMAs reasonably well probably no grounds for that. Nvidia will have to make AIBs whole so I suspect (continuing to be) shorting nvidia isnt a bad idea.

 

[SolidQ]

even 5080 it seems

 

[tmlDan]

It's better than console gaming for sure. No one forced anyone to wait for 5xxx series when writing was on the wall that it won't deliver.

you'll get through this

 

[damidu]

so they knew about this, hoped it would fly under the radar, only to reply within 5 minutes after it hit the news, right?
can you get more scummy than that,
makes you wonder what else is missing

 

[Celcius]

 

[newtypepilot]

this 50 series have been an absolute dumpster fire ROFL
paper launch
blatant price gouging
power connectors issues
missing performance
knowingly shipped products with missing performance

class action in 3...2...1...

 

[CLW]

Nvidia is gonna get sued by class action by DOZENS of cards sold

 

[CrustyBritches]

“NVIDIA’s Multi Failure Generation.” Man, Steve is savage and hilarious.

He called it the worst GPU launch he’s ever seen.

 

[lh032]

i can guarantee these GPU prices is going to kept on sky rocketing .

pcmr and nvidia fanboys will continue throw money to nvidia.

 

[Bieren]

Did y’all buy the season pass and pre-order bonus?