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Chris Dring: Helldivers 2 & TLOU2R are the biggest selling new releases of H1 2024 in the UK
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vaibhavpisal
Member
More GAAS and full priced remasters incoming.
anthony2690
Member
Happy for Arrowhead, less so for naughty dog, as they will probably continue remaking/remastering everything if it's rewarded.
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
That’s what happens when a company knows how to put out highly successful games.
I know of one who could learn a thing or two about that.
Bumblebeetuna
Member
Aren’t ND already working on another remake of the original? Maybe I am wrong but I swear I remember reading that. We’ll start seeing Uncharted remakes soon enough.
yazenov
Member
Thick Thighs Save Lives
The article is out now.
Edit: sorry this is for UK June only.
Elden Ring sales jump 467% on Shadow of the Erdtree release I UK Monthly Charts
EA Sports FC 24 and Elden Ring enjoy strong sales in June in the UK
www.gamesindustry.biz
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Astray
Member
Wasn't that already released as The Last of Us Part 1?
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
Right. In his mind though, he read it…
In reality, the only recent Naughty Dog news was about a potential Drake’s Fortune remake and their new IP.
tommib
Banned
Part II Remaster had a cute roguelike mode but it was a barebones remaster. Unbelievable how that game keeps selling. Remasters are here to stay. Can’t complain about that native 4K VRR mode though.
Helldivers 2 was super exciting and fresh at time of release. Lightning in a bottle. No surprise there.
Helldivers 2 was super exciting and fresh at time of release. Lightning in a bottle. No surprise there.
rm082e
Member
I didn't play TLOU games until recently. I was happy to pay for the remakes. I haven't bought Ghosts of Tsushima on PC yet, but I probably will at some point. I like to replay my favorite games multiple times over a few years, so getting a better version of those games is cool with me.
If you don't want to pay for a remake of a game you already played, then don't. I don't understand why players hate on publishers for making them. Publishers have to make some "safe" bets to help offset the risks they take with new IP - some of which is bound to fail.
If you don't want to pay for a remake of a game you already played, then don't. I don't understand why players hate on publishers for making them. Publishers have to make some "safe" bets to help offset the risks they take with new IP - some of which is bound to fail.
Gamer_By_Proxy
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inb4 Playstation shill admits cheaper GaaS games are destroying the industry by bringing down revenue.
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Represent.
Represent(ative) of bad opinions
Well, TLOU2: R is still easily the best game I've played all year so Im glad it did well.
and you missed out on the greatest game ever made- your loss.
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DrMano
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Topher
Identifies as young
If you boycotted it then how do you know how bad the writing is?
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DrMano
Member
You can watch the story on yt without playing it. The gameplay looked like a fantastic improvement over TLOU admittedly. Then again I was talking about its writing.
FoxMcChief
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But you also love Horizon and Starfield. I remember you saying that Aloy was a top tier protagonist and that Starfield only needed 30fps.I get why people dump on remakes and remasters, but honestly, I've had a blast playing three such games this year with Ghost of Tsushima, TLOU 2 and Persona 3 Reload.
Topher
Identifies as young
Ok. Personally I didn't have a problem with the story or the writing, but that's a divisive subject. The game play was indeed fantastic.
Speaking of shitty fiction...
ReBurn
Gold Member
For better or worse it seems to be what a lot of people want. I don't know if it's because the remasters are that good or because efforts at establishing new franchises are more challenging or nostalgia is that strong. Could be a little of each I guess.I get why people dump on remakes and remasters, but honestly, I've had a blast playing three such games this year with Ghost of Tsushima, TLOU 2 and Persona 3 Reload.
vivftp
Member
They're too busy with their heads firmly shoved up their own asses, sniffing their own farts.
Fake
Member
Same place as the Faction multiplayer.
Skifi28
Member
I'm not even sure what people mean by bad writing anymore.
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FoxMcChief
Gold Member
He’s my hero.
Topher
Identifies as young
Easy filler for lean years between games, but yeah....clearly there is demand for it so a bit of both.
vivftp
Member
As always, remember that most if not all of these PS5 remakes and remasters exist because Sony are developing PC versions of those games that can punch above what the PS4 could do. Since they're putting in the work to give those games a glow-up, the PS5 gets updated versions too. Fans are happy, Sony is happy, everyone wins except for the clueless boobs who keep complaining about the existence of remakes and remasters
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That cuts! You must have used a Hell of a Blade Too but I guess the haters are all enjoying themselves listening to their own inner thoughts.
Ulysses 31
Member
Generally it could be a lack of consistency, sloppiness and characters acting out of character with the information/experiences they have. Things happening that moves the plot forward without any setup/build up(example too many coincidences). Also too much telling rather than showing usually also is a sign of not good writing.
tommib
Banned
Getting flashbacks of the rage across the forum when the Part I remake was announced. It was a total meltdown. And I was like, this is just the version they want PC gamers to have access in the future instead of the very old looking PS4 remaster.
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
Indeed. Clearly they did the exact opposite of Last of Us’ fans with their money.
Topher
Identifies as young
Pretty much. I think a lot of folks confuse not liking a story with bad writing. The story in TLOU 2 is controversial, but the writing isn't like what you are describing.
MDSLKTR
Member
How would they even track that?
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Yup. It’s like the episode “Fishes” for The Bear. I think it’s a masterpiece, but others can’t enjoy it because it makes them anxious, so they can’t enjoy it. They won’t put the writing down, just say that they don’t enjoy it.
That analogy made sense in my head, at least.
tmlDan
Member
To test you, can you write out the entire plot right now in detail. Otherwise, i don't believe you
Fake
Member
Kinda possible. Can't say for sure, but they aren't lovers of context in this regards.
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Tiago Rodrigues
Member
In an industry full of bad writing in games how is TLOU2 a great example of that? Just because a game goes to places you didn't feel like it should've gone doesn't mean it's badly written.
I really can't think of a lot of games with a narrative like this.
Are there any plotholes that failed to connect both games that i'm not thinking about? Was anything retconned for no reason?
Narrative itself isn't broken in any way...not liking something doesn't mean it's bad. I don't like 90% of Prince's discography but i know the man was a genius and great at what he did.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
They don't. Chris didn't count the upgrade path sales for the game when it first released in January.
skit_data
Member
Same way they manage to count all digital sales I presume? I assume they are provided by the publishers but I have no real idea.
Well, I could see a few people asking about that but he hasn't responded to them.
Anyway, I'm happy TLOU2 does numbers. I consider it superior to the first game in most aspects. Come at me haters.
begotten
Member
You're talking about people who live online and don't play games. They're onto their 20th game by now to hate, they probably forgot TLOU2 existed.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Wait...i don't usually care for Reddit but...how is that the game's subreddit? Everyone is trashing it? It's been 4 years! lmao
DrMano
Member
To keep it brief I'll touch on one of many points that irked me about this sanctimonious wannabe game:
They took a no-name delusional npc veterinarian doctor that Joel killed to save his daughter and retroactively shifted the narrative into him being this martyr that was going to save humanity, and turned his non-existent no-name npc family into the narrative anchor of the second game (Namely Abby0.
Till now this would've been a fine plot device, the idea that Joel finally gets killed one of these days by an npc after all the murdering he has done to survive.
The problem now is that by the end of both Ellie's and Abby's plots respectively; They've killed dozens of named NPCs in this dumb 'revenge bad' narrative. All of those killed have supposed families and loved ones and friends etc. Because of the stupid precedent that the writers set that any rando npc can now spawned a family that would now hunt down and kill the main character in a humiliating and frankly unrealistic manner--Ellie and Abby should now be completely condemned and must be hunted down to complete this 'cycle of revenge' that the writers cooked up. Essentially; absolutely NOTHING was gained from both Ellie's or Abby's journey except death and destruction. No catharsis for Ellie, no absolution for Abby. And by extension, no satisfaction for many many people that played this game.
And please don't tell me 'that was the point!'
The point sucked, it was unnecessary and it has been done way better by many pieces of literature/media before.
*eyeroll*To test you, can you write out the entire plot right now in detail. Otherwise, i don't believe you