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[Kerotan]

Is this the last expansion?

 

[dottme]

The game wouldn't have been made if it wasn't for consoles.

Videogames are made for fucking money this isn't ballet.

This. The PC market isn’t big enough for this kind of game.

 

[GigaBowser]

Cyberpunk defenders can now stop pretendings game didn't need sandbox AI

It prolly wont be great thought cuz its tacked on after

 

[noise36]

Exciting stuff but wait and see for me.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

This. The PC market isn’t big enough for this kind of game.

PC is a bigger market than all of the current gen consoles combined.

 

[Dynasty8]

Love all the changes, just wish they also added a third person mode.

 

[FireFly]

@KyoZz and @Rush2112 I also agree that this...maybe should have been free. This to me isn't really and "addition" type thing, its elements that are too core to have been missing in the first place, AI, cops and bad guys driving cars and shooting from a car isn't an "additional" type thing, it sounds like a core element that should have been in this game day 1. Yet this is the thing many would bash EA or Ubisoft for, yet its CDPR that are doing it, even with 2042, the maps should have been fixed, the game should have launched with voice support and it should have had the score board, imagine if they just tried to charge people for some "expansion" for those very features acting as if they are providing you an extra lol

If anything, I feel those BASE features they are fixing should be free and the story expansion stuff should be paid for, I have nothing against that, but the elements they are adding shouldn't be a fucking 3 year type wait thing for Ai lol

They will be free. From the OP: "The developer says it’s still discussing the exact details of when and how base game owners will receive the new systems, but that its intention is to deploy them for free."

They already announced that the police changes and vehicular combat would be coming with a future patch. Probably some of the perks and mission types will only be available in the expansion, but that's pretty standard.

 

[Low Moral Fibre]

Even with all the flaws (and there are many) Cyberpunk 2077 is one of my favourite games. I never bought into the hype so I got what I expected. Witcher 3, as brilliant as it is, is still really really janky so I wasn't surprised when Cyberpunk was too.

If they can address some of the issues which it sounds like they are trying to I'll do a full replay from the start once the DLC hits.

The lighting looks absolutely outrageous with the Overdrive raytracing. It's like looking into the future of rendering from a lighting point of view at least.

 

[Gambit2483]

Is this the last expansion?

Story expansion? Yes, this is the first and last. It's been reported they are in preproduction of the sequel though

 

[Tokio Blues]

Looks awesome.

 

[stn]

I'll definitely play this, really liked the main game.

 

[Sub_Level]

So I should wait for the dlc in September before I FINALLY pick up the PS5 version? Thats what I gathered from the OP. Not shitposting I am genuinely curious.

 

[nemiroff]

Cyberpunk defenders can now stop pretendings game didn't need sandbox AI

I'm not sure if I misunderstand but I feel that's not what most people have said and discussed at all since the CP release. Some parts of CP was indeed disappointing, the early bugs and the NPC world simulation was part of that, and no one that I'm aware of has defended that. I bet literally no one. What many of us have said however is that CP, at least on PC, is a very good experience despite the flaws. And enemy combat AI (except police AI which was weird) together with combat ability diversity makes the sandbox experience a good one.

TLDR; World NPC simulation: Amaterurish and disappointing - Core gameplay and gfx: Pretty damn good (w/Overdrive: Fantastic).

 

[SF Kosmo]

I can't believe I am saying this, having put 80 hours into this game, but it might be time for a second playthrough.

 

[Kerotan]

Story expansion? Yes, this is the first and last. It's been reported they are in preproduction of the sequel though

So after this it would just be QOL updates or smaller item dlcs etc.

 

[CuteFaceJay]

So are these fixes free, or only for people who pay for the DLC?

 

[Sybrix]

This rebuild to the original is a free upgrade?

This is a legitimate question.

No response so far, does anyone know?

 

[Toreal]

Narrative Director Igor Sarzyński and Senior Communication Manager Paweł Burza are doing a deep dive for the trailer in a few minutes:
Cyberpunk 2077: Phantom Liberty - Developer Breakdown

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

So they are finally getting to the original vision?

 

[ebevan91]

So I should wait for the dlc in September before I FINALLY pick up the PS5 version? Thats what I gathered from the OP. Not shitposting I am genuinely curious.

If you haven't played the game yet then I'd wait so you can experience the entire game including the expansion.

 

[MidGenRefresh]

So they are finally getting to the original vision?

I believe that the original vision was to create immersive RPG, not an on rail action game.

 

[ShakenG]

Didnt pick this up till the PS5 version was available. Had no idea i would last 1 playthrough let alone 3 and go for the platinum. Having said that, it was a tad on the easy side and it did have its issues.

Will definitely keep an eye on the expansion whether i reinstall it or not. I enjoyed it, but i also got burnt out by the end.

 

[kvltus lvlzvs]

My favorite part is the section after "you are now here" - specifically where it says "it doesn't matter that we released all the good shit we cut out of the original as an expansion."

 

[Gamer_By_Proxy]

I've been putting off playing this game, and every update makes it sound like I'm doing the right thing by putting it off further. ha!

 

[Guilty_AI]

This is a legitimate question.

No response so far, does anyone know?

The prophets were right. No one reads op.

 

[Sybrix]

The prophets were right. No one reads op.

 

[EverydayBeast]

Cyberpunk felt very rugged, the internet beat it up for it not being perfect.

 

[Salty Popsicle]

Is this the last expansion?

It's the only expansion unfortunately. They had two full expansions planned before the game released, but due to how much of a mess the game was at release and the amount of time it took the team to fix all the mistakes, they decided to cancel one.

 

[Dr_Ifto]

Is this the last expansion?

Its the only expansion

 

[SCB3]

Huh, I was waiting for the DLC and just gonna play that, but it may be worth a full replay at this point

 

[SCB3]

no, this time its actually believable cause its not on shitty ass generic ass POS hardware that was the ps4 and xbox one. many ppl think ps4 and xbox one were good machines, they were terrible. and cyberpunk showed the truth behind them, they could not handle the game, simple as that. cyberpunk with all the bells and whistles on PC is incredible looking, so now with next gen hardware its actually believable that all thees things are achivable.

On PC and Xbox Series X I found CP 2077 to be absolutely fine at launch with minor bugs tbh, it was the old hardware, it really should've skipped them

 

[DeaDPo0L84]

I enjoyed it at launch, warts and all. Obviously it fell short of expectations but it will be nice to jump back in when this launches.

 

[oji-san]

Sounds good, i already liked the base game so this sounds even better, trailer looked awesome but $30 is a bit pricey.. their TW3 expansions were $20 each iirc.

 

[Superkewl]

So after this it would just be QOL updates or smaller item dlcs etc.

I would assume just fixes for bugs introduced by the expansion and nothing else. Believe this will be the end of the line.

 

[Gambit2483]

So are these fixes free, or only for people who pay for the DLC?

Free fixes and the additional District Dog Town will be added but a story based skill tree won't be available for obvious reasons

 

[RickSanchez]

All the mods will be broken, hopefully they will get updated

Exactly what im afraid of too.

 

[RickSanchez]

“[Original game owners] will get some of the new features… we’re still discussing how that’s going to work, and when it’s going to be, and how to solve it,” he explained.

I'm assuming this means they're trying to figure out which features are big enough improvements to be put behind the paywall of the paid DLC. A sad thought.

They should push a patch to original game owners which gives them all the core game improvements. Only the DLC missions and locations should be paid.

 

[sankt-Antonio]

The prophets were right. No one reads op.

(...) and even base game owners will receive the updates. (...)

“We also looked at the criticism for example of the open world. When you play the base game versus Phantom Liberty, you will see the difference. For example, there are car chases that happen dynamically when factions fight. AI improvements mostly extends to enemies. Your followers, like you saw with Agent Reed in the demo, can also use it, but pedestrians are mostly bug fixes.”

it is confusing. Did he mean unpatched base game? Why not say "pre-patch".

 

[Mercador]

So I guess I should wait a bit longer to try the game on my new GPU? I completed the first two acts at launch, haven't played since.

 

[mckmas8808]

The PS4 and Xbox One really messed them up huh?

 

[Guilty_AI]

(...) and even base game owners will receive the updates. (...)

“We also looked at the criticism for example of the open world. When you play the base game versus Phantom Liberty, you will see the difference. For example, there are car chases that happen dynamically when factions fight. AI improvements mostly extends to enemies. Your followers, like you saw with Agent Reed in the demo, can also use it, but pedestrians are mostly bug fixes.”

it is confusing. Did he mean unpatched base game? Why not say "pre-patch".

just sounds like slip of the tongue

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

Expect a massive expansion he said.

 

[KormaChameleon]

Playing it through with a couple of mods installed. It's a jolly good experince.

 

[EDMIX]

They will be free. From the OP: "The developer says it’s still discussing the exact details of when and how base game owners will receive the new systems, but that its intention is to deploy them for free."

They already announced that the police changes and vehicular combat would be coming with a future patch. Probably some of the perks and mission types will only be available in the expansion, but that's pretty standard.

Good find, respect!

As it should be.

 

[Gp1]

Wake up Samurai, we have another city to burn.

I'm in!

 

[Gambit2483]

So I guess I should wait a bit longer to try the game on my new GPU? I completed the first two acts at launch, haven't played since.

I'm in the same boat as you as I'm in the beginning-middle of Act 2 and I'm considering just waiting for this to drop....might even do a fresh restart

 

[Mercador]

I'm in the same boat as you as I'm in the beginning-middle of Act 2 and I'm considering just waiting for this to drop....might even do a fresh restart

That what I will do, I don't remember a lot of the story anyway. I guess I'll be able to play at 1440p@60 though with the sys reqs, I should be able to run it at 2160p@60 non-RT on a 4070 (I highly doubt it though).

 

[StueyDuck]

so according to Huber on Easy Allies it's basically hardly changed. I don't know if he's confused or he's talking about something else but it sounds like nothing really has been upgraded.

Timestamp 2:37:00

 

[Guilty_AI]

so according to Huber on Easy Allies it's basically hardly changed. I don't know if he's confused or he's talking about something else but it sounds like nothing really has been upgraded.

Timestamp 2:37:00

According to the devs, most changes were done to the progression systems (and the game really needed it), so its unlikely for one to notice any difference with just a quick play.

 

[Hambone]

Looking forward to the expansion and all the game play changes, so will definitely be starting a new game. I doubt it will happen, but my wish-list would be for them to expand the life-path origin(s) and becoming friends with Jackie instead of that lame montage.