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damn preppy "i'm so cool" f*cktards

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BuddyC

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My neighborhood has an overabundance of those new-age teenage preppy fucks that loves abercrombie, with social groups that resemble the borg in functionality. as my friend was leaving tonight, he discovered that someone had broken into his car and stolen his (portable) CD player. With most of the traffic in the area being the preppy fucks, and with two of their lairs siding with my home, the suspects are alarmingly clear.

i'll do nothing about it, except go and warn the neighbors tomorrow that his car was broken into, but grr.
 
start questioning some suspects. Its amazing how a toilet plunger and a jar of vaseline will get those little fuckers to spill their beans!
 

Meier

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Sirpopopop said:
Yes but to connect with their inner "ghettoness" they feel the need to steal CD players.

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"People still steal these you know?"
 
My friend had the shittiest car imaginable with a bunch of faded punk stickers on the back, rusted-out dents and no grill. Someone noticed though that he had a CD player and smashed a window and uninstalled it by ripping off half of his dashboard. He was a fighter so he said fuck the laws and starting driving wearing headphones with a discman which he left in the car while he worked. Someone stole this as well. Two weeks later for no reason at all someone threw a brick through his window and he drove for three months with a Jewel bag in the middle of winter as a window. He eventually sold the car for a carton of cigarettes...
 

Particle Physicist

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reggieandTFE said:
My friend had the shittiest car imaginable with a bunch of faded punk stickers on the back, rusted-out dents and no grill. Someone noticed though that he had a CD player and smashed a window and uninstalled it by ripping off half of his dashboard. He was a fighter so he said fuck the laws and starting driving wearing headphones with a discman which he left in the car while he worked. Someone stole this as well. Two weeks later for no reason at all someone threw a brick through his window and he drove for three months with a Jewel bag in the middle of winter as a window. He eventually sold the car for a carton of cigarettes...


your friend sounds retarded.. :/
 

Tritroid

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That does seem kind of odd for teens wearing AF to be breaking into cars...

Oh well, regardless, I refuse to wear AF. Their prices are insanely too high, so I boycott them. ^-^

American Eagle >>>>>>>>>>>> Abercrombie
 
What's the matter with Abercrombie? Or were you just implying that people who wear Abercrombie are nothing but snotty, spoiled and rude brats? I'll have to remember that when I see you wearing a "MARIO" shirt... I know what category I'll be lumping you into.

EDIT: directed at the author of the thread.
 

BuddyC

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HalfPastNoon said:
What's the matter with Abercrombie? Or were you just implying that people who wear Abercrombie are nothing but snotty, spoiled and rude brats? I'll have to remember that when I see you wearing a "MARIO" shirt... I know what category I'll be lumping you into.

EDIT: directed at the author of the thread.

Ironically enough, I'm wearing a Mario shirt today.

I was going to be nice and give you a well thought out answer, but instead I'll just apologize for killing your dog and move on.
 
BuddyChrist83 said:
Ironically enough, I'm wearing a Mario shirt today.

I was going to be nice and give you a well thought out answer, but instead I'll just apologize for killing your dog and move on.

Figured. I wear Abercrombie all the time, and don't worry, I won't hate or lump you into some geeky loser group just because you're wearing a Mario shirt.

Do you actually know the people who you're seemingly against?
 

Tritroid

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Yeah I'm kinda siding with HalfPast on this one.

I don't wear AF, as I said, but AE is pretty similar; if not in the same 'group' as AF.

To automatically classify people into a stereotype that you hate just because of the clothes they wear is kind of arrogant... :\
 

BuddyC

Member
HalfPastNoon said:
Do you actually know the people who you're seemingly against?

Yes, and sadly, they reinforce the stereotypes quite well. Let it be known that I do not stereotype people based off their clothes, but rather their actions.
 
BuddyChrist83 said:
Yes, and sadly, they reinforce the stereotypes quite well. Let it be known that I do not stereotype people based off their clothes, but rather their actions.

Well, that's sad then. There's always some fucktards, though. Ah well..
 

BuddyC

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HalfPastNoon said:
Well, that's sad then. There's always some fucktards, though. Ah well..

Yea. It's not really meant as a slam against Abercrombie, they're just the latest trend that this kind of people have adopted. They all dress the same, act the same, etc. While every social group resembles this to a degree, it's always dangerous when one places the group mentality above their own.
 

Dice

Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
Bah, you every actually become friends with such people? It is possible, you just have to do it one-on-one rather than approaching the whole group, then if you do this with the majority of the group you'll find yourself a part of it without having changed a thing about yourself. If you'd take a little time you'd find out they have the same insecurities anyone else has and it just manifests differently. Most people have a group of friends and feel insecure outside of it, likewise within those groups of friends they have the drive to think of things to make them feel their friends are the best. In most cases when a different subculture looks at preps, they tend to say "oh they think they are so cool, what losers". But you'll notice that's a superiority complex as well, attaining the very same character that you criticize them for.

I've found that in certain subcultures, the style of clothing while distinct isn't limited to a specific brand, mostly due to the nature of the style and in some cases lower income. So those groups tend to find their uniting elements in things like what genres in media they are into and what kind of things they are definitely not into. Not only this but they tend to hypocritically frown upon clothes that other groups identitfy themselves by (if clothes mean nothing why is it not cool to have an abercrombie shirt in your wardrobe?). Then in some cases a person just doesn't really have any friends so it's very easy for them to get a superiority complex, especially if they find the majority of their social exchange on an internet forum where such things aren't even identified (I'm not saying this is true of you, just that it happens).

But what I'm getting at is you should take some time to put yourself in their shoes for a little bit. It seems (at least in my area) that a lot of them tend to be in sports, so a group mentality would probably be stronger on them. Then in many cases they tend to have very busy lives, their time is spent with others, so their thoughts are shared with others. There aren't too many criplling aspects of life to make them ponder the universe, and even when there are they are too busy to really explore them. Usually a friend like you can help them do that and see more in life, although it does take time. As for the stealing, if one of them did do it then that does show poor character. However while I wouldn't recommend letting them go scott free, it is another action that has a reason, and dealing with the reason to make them a better person is better than a slap on the wrist.

Sorry for ranting, I just have many friends in all sorts of social circles and I've found that everyone is the same. In judging others as a group you place yourself in a higher group, such is very haughty and only perpetuates the issue on both sides. Group mentalities can be dangerous, but so can overly individualistic mentalities. The fact is everyone is interdependant upon a certain group of others in some way shape or form, so in turn they will find different ways to make that easier. Also judgment is the lowest form of understanding, it can only punish bad values and has no redemptive power to bring about good values. For that you need forgiveness and love, sorry if that sounds a little hippie but it's true.

If you think your understanding is better, then it's selfish to keep it to yourself. To understand them you need to look past faults and rightly invest into them, and they'll also understand you. If thats not something you're willing to do, then it's pretty hypocritical to be judging complaining about them. It's real easy to look at what they do and say they are bad people, but although much harder it's much beter to get to know them and find out why they do what they do. It is difficult at first, but through it you start to understand the human condition a lot more, and it makes it easy to look past things you don't like at first and more easily to relate to people. Then after awhile you'll find you never get caught up in bad social situations that we always see on shows like The Real World.
 

Tritroid

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:lol, I read the first 3 sentences of Dice's monologue and had to give up. Seriously man, can you maybe paraphrase what you were going for?

Anyway, we shouldn't be too hard on Buddy. After all, I'm sure everyone judges people according to how they look ... to a point. I do it especially with the 'Goths'; the people who dress in all black, with painted finger nails, makeup, and every kind of piercing imaginable. To me, they're only dressing like this to get attention and shock value, which is pathetic imo.
 

Dice

Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
Dude, go have a popsicle, because you need to chill the fuck out.
What an intelligent and thoughtful reponse. Had you actually read my post rather than simply look at the amount of words you would have noticed I wasn't really pissed off nor was I really bitching, but I actually tried to make it informative and helpful and did it in a civil manner. Sorry for using so many words, I should have considered how lazy and dismissive the readers might be.
 
Yeah, what Dice said. Did you all actually READ what he wrote before noticing the length and shoving it aside? Good post, dude.
 

BuddyC

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Dice said:
Bah, you every actually become friends with such people?

Yes, I have. Some of my closest friends are of the 'American Eagle' demographic.

Usually a friend like you can help them do that and see more in life, although it does take time. As for the stealing, if one of them did do it then that does show poor character. However while I wouldn't recommend letting them go scott free, it is another action that has a reason, and dealing with the reason to make them a better person is better than a slap on the wrist.

Except I'm not their mother, and I see no reason to go and help these folk "see more in life." I can get to know each of them individually and then be accepted into their group without changing how I dress or the music I listen to or my attitudes? No, because they differ greatly.

Even if I did infiltrate their group, the group itself would have changed to accomodate and accept my presence.

Sorry for ranting, I just have many friends in all sorts of social circles and I've found that everyone is the same.

On some level, yes.

Group mentalities can be dangerous, but so can overly individualistic mentalities.

Zing.

Had you just said that, your post would have been about 100 times more effective.

The fact is everyone is interdependant upon a certain group of others in some way shape or form, so in turn they will find different ways to make that easier. Also judgment is the lowest form of understanding, it can only punish bad values and has no redemptive power to bring about good values. For that you need forgiveness and love, sorry if that sounds a little hippie but it's true.

I understand why they do what they do, but I don't agree with it because it goes against my my morals/beliefs/views etc. I perfer to make my own decisions. If my "group" has a problem with that, they can eat me, and they damn well know it.

If you think your understanding is better, then it's selfish to keep it to yourself. To understand them you need to look past faults and rightly invest into them, and they'll also understand you. If thats not something you're willing to do, then it's pretty hypocritical to be judging complaining about them.

I'm complaining that someone stole my friend's CD player, and they're the most obvious suspects for a multitude of reasons.


It's real easy to look at what they do and say they are bad people, but although much harder it's much beter to get to know them and find out why they do what they do. It is difficult at first, but through it you start to understand the human condition a lot more, and it makes it easy to look past things you don't like at first and more easily to relate to people. Then after awhile you'll find you never get caught up in bad social situations that we always see on shows like The Real World.

They're not bad, they're just misunderstood, right? And someone that beats a girl isn't a criminal, they're just incapable of expressing their feeling in a socially acceptable way. And fuck society! They can do what they want.

My way of avoiding The Real World situations? Avoid people that act like drama queens.
 

Dice

Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
They're not bad, they're just misunderstood, right? And someone that beats a girl isn't a criminal, they're just incapable of expressing their feeling in a socially acceptable way. And fuck society! They can do what they want.
As I said, whoever stole your friend's CD player shouldn't go scot free, but if you think the regular punishment for such will change them into a better person you are mistaken. Though with the statement that yours is in reply to I was more talking about social functions.

As for the rest of your response, I understand your reasoning, but I guess I just work differently. As far as I can see the resignation from making the world any better is the leading cause of all it's problems. I'm not saying you are obligated to "try a little harder" with some people, it's your life and you'll do what you want. But there is potential for some better relationships there, and through those relationships better understandings which lead to more good relationships you'll never even see.

I guess it's like environmentalism in some sense, "if everyone would just..." then the world would be a better place. But most people don't, so why try if it's a bother to you and doesn't greatly affect anything beyond you? Well, I suppose thats the difference between us, I'd personally go for it and make things just a little better. If it weren't for people who did, you wouldn't even know of such facts, so obviously to some extent one good leads to another and makes some sort of decent impact.

But I wonder...

I perfer to make my own decisions. If my "group" has a problem with that, they can eat me, and they damn well know it.
Where would that problem stem from? Perhaps a misunderstanding of your views? And what if you tried just a bit harder and worked past that initial social friction and made effort to understand why they might have a problem with it? Yeah their initial reaction to you shouldn't be so negative, but maybe they react in such a way because they haven't been shown what benefits come from a little patience, much like your own response to their hasty judgments of your views.
 

Oichi

I'm like a Hadouken, down-right Fierce!
reggieandTFE said:
My friend had the shittiest car imaginable with a bunch of faded punk stickers on the back, rusted-out dents and no grill. Someone noticed though that he had a CD player and smashed a window and uninstalled it by ripping off half of his dashboard. He was a fighter so he said fuck the laws and starting driving wearing headphones with a discman which he left in the car while he worked. Someone stole this as well. Two weeks later for no reason at all someone threw a brick through his window and he drove for three months with a Jewel bag in the middle of winter as a window. He eventually sold the car for a carton of cigarettes...


Best story ever!
 

BuddyC

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Dice, I'll reply later...on my way from one job to the other. In the meantime...

Matlock: Seriously, why type something that long and meandering for a useless thread?
BuddyC: i dunno. it didn't even make that much sense, though there was one good sentence in there.
BuddyC: after working with the public for 4 years, going to high school and college, and studying philosophy, i think i have a pretty pedestal to stand on and say "the abercrombie thing isn't for me"
Matlock: Haha
BuddyC: i don't know though, so i'm glad some "i'm friends with everbody" type decided to 'enlighten' me
BuddyC: i may be hippy-esque, but even i'm not naive enough to believe in the whole "we can all get along" thing. Oh yea, we can all get along, assuming conversation doesn't go more than "my, what a glorious sunny day it is today."
Matlock: Haha
BuddyC: you want proof of that?
BuddyC: look at the internet! it started as utopia, now it's degraded into porn and needless arguments.
Matlock: Society's pretty much that.
BuddyC: yup.
 

Dice

Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
Matlock said:
Please, Dice. Ease back a little. You're taking this maybe a little too seriously.
Just wondering, but are you sensing a sort of hositility from my posts? Because if you are it's not my intention at all, I'm really calm right now. I'm just having a discussion and sharing my views. If you mean just that it's a silly point of discussion and not worth it, I'd have to disagree. I think this is the very point that causes or prevents most social stress and bad relationships from happening.

To Buddy's thing: My views are true only insofar as people are willing to have patience with one another, forgiving faults and working through disagreements. Many people aren't so willing, thats where I'd say your perspective is perfectly reasonable. However, I know for a fact that it can work because it does all the time in my own life and relationships.

And that is my point, not that it will ever happen between everyone but that it can, and the only time it ever fails is when people see how often people stop trying and resign from even trying themselves. Either that or they just get selfish and choose not to because it does take some work and they'd rather live with the negative than work towards the positive.

I've worked towards the positive and seen it come to pass in my own relationships, and I do think it is worth the trouble. That's all I'm saying, don't misunderstand me to be saying something else. Think of me as naive if you'd like, but I simply can't deny something I've seen actually work time and time again.
 

Matlock

Banned
You're typing up college essays to answer something that's relatively meaningless, man. It's not hostile, but it's a bit troublesome.
 

Dice

Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
Troublesome? Maybe, but not any more than everything else. I've found that short little quips don't accomplish anything and are most often misunderstood due to preconceptions anyway. Thats why college essays make you use so many words and follow other rules, because that's the proper way to communicate an idea with any sort of depth to it. And as I've said, I don't think this point of discussion is meaningless and I do think it's worth it. Just my personality I suppose, but if I didn't think it was worth it then I wouldn't have written it.
 

Brian Fellows

Pete Carroll Owns Me
Tritroid said:
American Eagle >>>>>>>>>>>> Abercrombie


Agreed though AE around here doesnt have the strict "you have to look like a supermodel" hiring policy that AF has. I do buy from AF but it has to be something that really catches my eye. Otherwise I stick with AE and Hollister....and the Goodwill you can get some sweet ass T's from there.
 

Dice

Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
Yeah, I'm pretty skinny so it's hard to find clothes that aren't too big. I don't have enough cash for places like American Eagle (who has nice stuff in my size) so I get my clothes at thrift stores. This one in town is owned by a dude who goes up to chicago on the weekends and gets a bunch of sweet picks from flea markets.
 
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